Cotto or Mayweather: Who had a tougher three fight streak?

I don't expect a decent debate, since well, its NSB but it is a rational question. Who has had a tougher three fight streak between the two May 5th rivals? 3 fights ago: Cotto v. Foreman/Mayweather v. Marquez: -Foreman, coming off of a good win over Santos for a Jr MW title against Cotto, moving up in weight after a beatdown by Pacquaio. Foreman was projected to be too mobile, too tall and too technical for the faded Cotto. Foreman however was plagued with a chronic knee issue that was present in the fight -JMM, coming off a decent win against Baby Bull (where is he?) in a good action fight, at lightweight, two weights below, moving up against Floyd Mayweather in the Welterweight divisions. JMM was projected to pose no threat to Floyd 2 fights ago: Cotto v. Mayorga/Mayweather v. Mosley -Mayorga, coming off a layoff against Cotto, coming off of a shoulder surgery. The fight was supposed to be a short but exciting affair. Mayorga, to the world's surprise came into the fight in shape and with the ability to throw his strong, looping and unpredictable punches. His chin still intact as well. Cotto maintained dominance over a impossibly resurgent Mayorga -Mosley, also coming off of a layoff with the "#1 WW" status obtained by default. The fight was supposed to be a battle of speed, with Floyd comfortably taking the win, however Mosley was unable to muster up the energy for more than one hayemaker and ended up fighting like a victim of touretts. As sad end for a once great fighter. Floyd maintains dominance throughout and never in truly serious danger. 1 fight ago: Cotto v. Margarito II/Mayweather v. Ortiz -Margarito coming off of a blitzing by Pacquaio, at a seemingly comfortable weight class and eye surgery was still projected to be too tough for Cotto and cause him to take a knee. Cotto maintained discipline and put on a 9-0 clinic (8-1 if your generous). Tony maintains his amazing stamina and chin -Ortiz, coming off an exciting win over solid champ Berto, with questions still lingering about maturity and mental fortitude. Questions answered in the Berto bout returned in the "Money" fight. Ortiz was massive however in his new weight class and was supposed to push Mayweather. Unfortunately, this fight will have be concluded as...undecided due to the unfortunate ending. Debate

Comments (20)

SweetPeanut, Too bad cotto will STILL batter little floyd even his current version. Cotto is a beast and better than floyd = FACT. So when floyd beats cotto you will give him credit? To answer the thread, Margarito was shot and garbage anyways but I'm glad Cotto beat the dog **** outta him. Mayorga is a brawler and was shot, Foreman is a solid boxer, but lacks power and had knee problems. MArquez was still a top fighter, but outmatched and too small to impose his will, Ortiz was a prime strong fighter but is a dumb ass and can't compose himself, Mosley was coming off a huge win and had a punchers chance, I think he was on something for the margarito fight, he for obvious reasons couldnt juice up for the fight after that

14y ago

bojangles1987

And you're entitled to the bold. There isn't anyone in this tread that said Cotto fought the better fighters or the tougher 1's. The fact remains Cotto had a harder time beating his three than Floyd did. Unlike the big homey was making stuff on abpout. No one said Foreman> than Marquez. But Cotto struggled more because Floyd is more skilled period. And I question your Khan Peterson claim. I'm almost certain that you were 1 of those that thought Khan smashes Peterson. Dead wrong. Never said Khan smashes Peterson, not once. I predicted 8-4 or 7-5 Khan, and said I wouldn't be surprised if Peterson won.

14y ago

IronDanHamza

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/willywaff1017/smh.gif :rofl: :rofl: That made me laugh out loud. Then I remembered what a sad moment that was and was on the verge of tears.

14y ago

Bushbaby

Yet you brought it up. And I still believe it, I thought Peterson would be tough and possibly beat Khan because I knew how good Peterson was. He's at least as good as everyone at 147 except Pac and Floyd. I interpreted the question as which three fight streak was harder to do, not which fighter had tougher fights. It says something about Cotto right now and how good Floyd is as well that Cotto had more trouble with his three than Floyd did with Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz. And you're entitled to the bold. There isn't anyone in this tread that said Cotto fought the better fighters or the tougher 1's. The fact remains Cotto had a harder time beating his three than Floyd did. Unlike the big homey was making stuff on abpout. No one said Foreman> than Marquez. But Cotto struggled more because Floyd is more skilled period. And I question your Khan Peterson claim. I'm almost certain that you were 1 of those that thought Khan smashes Peterson.

14y ago

bojangles1987

I did say Ortiz would be tough & he was. It's not like the fight wasn't riddled with controversy. However Floyd ran through Marquez & Mosley & the Ortiz fight ended without being competitive. If you wanna say that Floyd struggled with those 3 go ahead. The Question wasn't who fought the better fighters. We all say stuff others might not agree with. You said Khan beats everyone at 147 not named Pacman or Mosley when he couldn't even beat a guy in his own division. That's irrelevant to this discussion. Cotto struggled, Floyd did not it's really not about who they fought, it's about were the fights tough. Yet you brought it up. And I still believe it, I thought Peterson would be tough and possibly beat Khan because I knew how good Peterson was. He's at least as good as everyone at 147 except Pac and Floyd. I interpreted the question as which three fight streak was harder to do, not which fighter had tougher fights. It says something about Cotto right now and how good Floyd is as well that Cotto had more trouble with his three than Floyd did with Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz.

14y ago

nodzilla

They would have pretty much the same, which is why I selected that option. Cotto would beat Mayweather's last three and have toughest against Ortiz Mayweather would have beat Cotto's last three and have the toughest I suppose against Margarito I agree Cotto might have a hard time with Ortiz, but I don't think Mayweather would have a hard time against 2011 Margarito.

14y ago

Bushbaby

If Floyd is so good that none of his last three fights were a challenge, then why were people, myself included, picking Mosley to beat him or at least make it tough? Why were people like Bushbaby screaming how Ortiz was a young strong lion that would win? It is much tougher to beat Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz, no matter who is fighting them, then it is to beat Foreman, Mayorga, and Margarito. Bottom line to this entire discussion. I did say Ortiz would be tough & he was. It's not like the fight wasn't riddled with controversy. However Floyd ran through Marquez & Mosley & the Ortiz fight ended without being competitive. If you wanna say that Floyd struggled with those 3 go ahead. The Question wasn't who fought the better fighters. We all say stuff others might not agree with. You said Khan beats everyone at 147 not named Pacman or Mosley when he couldn't even beat a guy in his own division. That's irrelevant to this discussion. Cotto struggled, Floyd did not it's really not about who they fought, it's about were the fights tough.

14y ago

The_Big_Dunn

If Floyd is so good that none of his last three fights were a challenge, then why were people, myself included, picking Mosley to beat him or at least make it tough? Why were people like Bushbaby screaming how Ortiz was a young strong lion that would win? It is much tougher to beat Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz, no matter who is fighting them, then it is to beat Foreman, Mayorga, and Margarito. Bottom line to this entire discussion. In any other sport, if you totally dominate your opponent and shut them out, thats means your a strong fighter/team. Only when its floyd. I guess the 86 Bears weren't any good on D, it was just their opposition sucked so they couldn't score. And all of Nolan Ryan's no-hitters are BS because the other tem couldn't hit.

14y ago

JmH_Reborn

Yuri Foreman has no power, so Cotto could walk him down. I felt the Mayorga fight was tough. I was impressed by the KO, and Cotto's patience. I was a little underwhelmed by Cotto's performance against Margarito. I thought Cotto was going to destroy him (in the way Mosley did). But it was still a tough and good fight. The Marquez fight is tricky for me. It didn't seem like a tough fight. You don't see Money is tough fights. The debate is whether it's because he's so good or it's because of the level of his opposition. I do think he boxed a tough 2nd round against Mosely, and came back to dominate. I also liked him picking Ortiz. I thought it was a good tough choice for him at the time. The way I look at it... If you flip their opposition, would Cotto and Mayweather have a more or less tougher time. Mayweather vs Foreman/Mayorga/Margarito Cotto vs Marquez/Mosley/Ortiz. They would have pretty much the same, which is why I selected that option. Cotto would beat Mayweather's last three and have toughest against Ortiz Mayweather would have beat Cotto's last three and have the toughest I suppose against Margarito

14y ago

bojangles1987

14y ago

nodzilla

14y ago

IMDAZED

IMDAZED, what's the background info on the fight with the Mailman? Serious question. http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/willywaff1017/smh.gif

14y ago

PBFP4P

If Cotto had the tougher streak in the last 3 fights than Floyd did. And, by what has been defined in this thread as "tougher." Then it means Cotto is closer to a journeyman level then actual elite level. You Cotto fans must be proud. :headbang:

14y ago

Sweet_Pea_50

The poll result is fucking hilarious..... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

14y ago

jtcs1981

Your breakdown is kind of bias. But lets use flomos logic. Floyd's three fights were easy. He barely lost a round. He made those guys look silly. However, Cotto had some struggles against Tony and was fading. He barely couldnt KO a one leg fighter. And Mayorga, well is Mayorga. So based on their logic, Cotto's three last fight were tougher for him. He is fighting guys on his same level. He is going to struggle unlike Floyd who will school everyone. IMO, the same.

14y ago

IronDanHamza

IMDAZED, what's the background info on the fight with the Mailman? Serious question.

14y ago

Kagami_Taiga

I think he's taken on tougher comp throughout the come up, just based on overall. Mayweather was facing good-to-great fighters (JLC/Chico) and then the wheels on the wagon fell off as he moved on up. Although I give some credit for May/Hatton look at floyds opposition from genaro hernande to jlc 2 and tell me, how is it possible u could even think cotto fought better opposition overall. chico/castillo/hernandez by themseleves are better than any fighter cotto has ever beat with the exception of mosely perhaps. its just not true. i dont understand this idea that ppl have that u should punish floyd for being soooo much better than everyone else. sure he's underachieved. but his underachievement are much better than other fighters over achievements.

14y ago

JmH_Reborn

this isnt true either unless u really ratew mayweather as being much much more superior to cotto. I think he's taken on tougher comp throughout the come up, just based on overall. Mayweather was facing good-to-great fighters (JLC/Chico) and then the wheels on the wagon fell off as he moved on up. Although I give some credit for May/Hatton

14y ago

IMDAZED

Are guys not really catching your drift? I sincerely hope they are. No matter how you try you're still wrong. The question wasn't who fought the better fighters. It was who had the tougher streak. Try again. Yeah, and you're basing not on the opposition but on the person facing the opposition. So umm no, I'm not wrong.

14y ago

Kagami_Taiga

I never claimed that Cotto was ever superior to Mayweather to ever begin with. In his prime, I would have given Cotto a much greater chance than I do today. He may win, he will most likely not. But I never, in any thread ever said Cotto is superior to Mayweather. Cotto is a great fighter, Mayweather just happens to be greater and there is nothing wrong with that. Still doesn't change the fact that Cotto has taken a more arduous road throughout his career this isnt true either unless u really ratew mayweather as being much much more superior to cotto.

14y ago