Ricky Hatton Should Get A Lot Of Credit

Hatton had the right style to compete against Mayweather because he had better footwork. In addition, he was a swarming/mauling pressure fighter that was more adept at cutting off the ring. Ricky had a tendency of smothering and suffocating his opponents on the inside where as Pac is more of a boxer/puncher who relies mostly on timing, accuracy and combination punching from a proper distance.

No, it would've just confirmed my opinion that Manny at his best wasn't good enough to beat Floyd at his. No more, no less. Prior to the fight, I said Manny was going to keep throwing and that gave him a great chance to win. he didn't, hence the resounding defeat. Manny throwing more would have only resulted in Floyd moving and clinching more. Same results.

FFS, who said Pac's gameplan was developed based on what fans say? I'M saying that had Pac went balls to the wall and sold out as you felt he should of done and gotten KO'd or rocked in the process, you would be the first one praising Floyd and bashing Pac. No, it would've just confirmed my opinion that Manny at his best wasn't good enough to beat Floyd at his. No more, no less. Prior to the fight, I said Manny was going to keep throwing and that gave him a great chance to win. he didn't, hence the resounding defeat.

Ricky was in the fight and after the fight ended Floyd said that Ricky was the best fighter he has faced.

JMM has a shorter reach so he had to fight that way to land punches. It wasn't that he was willing to let Pac land. Geez. Yes, that was when Floyd laid on the ropes. Manny wasn't effective at cutting off the ring. Every time he came in -pop- hook and move out. Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Not punching in volumes IMO means he settled for losing a UD rather than risk a KO win because to do so would mean being countered repeatedly. The punches that hurt the most-the ones you don't see. FFS, deveel916 Who cares what Floyd fans would've said. You don't develop a fight plan based on comments from fans. FFS, who said Pac's gameplan was developed based on what fans say? I'M saying that had Pac went balls to the wall and sold out as you felt he should of done and gotten KO'd or rocked in the process, you would be the first one praising Floyd and bashing Pac.

Its also kind of hard to fight your usual style against an opponent who's main focus is not letting you get off on him. If 90% of my focus is on not letting you hit me, then I'm going to severely limit your offense. Some fighters such as JMM were willing to let Pac land his in order to land theirs. There were a few instances where Pac loaded up on shots and when he fired off multi punch combos when he had Floyd against the ropes. Because he didn't fight wreckless and come in just winging wild punches doesn't mean he didn't try to win. He was up against a defensive genius who is known for making his opponents pay when they miss. Had Pac sold out and got knocked out, the Floydboys would have talked about how stupid Pac was to go in swinging wild like that and how he got KTFO. JMM has a shorter reach so he had to fight that way to land punches. It wasn't that he was willing to let Pac land. Geez. Yes, that was when Floyd laid on the ropes. Manny wasn't effective at cutting off the ring. Every time he came in -pop- hook and move out. Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Not punching in volumes IMO means he settled for losing a UD rather than risk a KO win because to do so would mean being countered repeatedly. The punches that hurt the most-the ones you don't see. FFS, deveel916 Who cares what Floyd fans would've said. You don't develop a fight plan based on comments from fans.

cause he eat punches for brekfast lunch and diner? smh he have no skill at all

Problem with this argument is Floyd is a boxer/counter puncher/defensive specialist that stayed true to his style. Manny, the volume puncher didn't. The fight was always about which style would win. Manny not fighting to win robbed us of that style matchup. Had he fought with his usual style and really tried to win, Floyd's volume would have increased or he may have lost. Manny essentially made the same choice many of Floyd's opponents have-lose by shutout/wide UD rather than risk winning and possibly get KO'd. Its also kind of hard to fight your usual style against an opponent who's main focus is not letting you get off on him. If 90% of my focus is on not letting you hit me, then I'm going to severely limit your offense. Some fighters such as JMM were willing to let Pac land his in order to land theirs. There were a few instances where Pac loaded up on shots and when he fired off multi punch combos when he had Floyd against the ropes. Because he didn't fight wreckless and come in just winging wild punches doesn't mean he didn't try to win. He was up against a defensive genius who is known for making his opponents pay when they miss. Had Pac sold out and got knocked out, the Floydboys would have talked about how stupid Pac was to go in swinging wild like that and how he got KTFO.

Go watch round 6 where he did the same as round 4 when Mayweather was on the ropes. Throwing power punches with his right hand. So, in your expert opinion, as the fight went on, the torn rotator cuff didn't worsten?

Someone can turn around and use the argument that Floyd fans praise Floyd for and say that Pac was able limit Floyd's offense and as a result Floyd landed less on Pac than he's landed on many of his past opponents. You cant praise Floyd for fighting cautious and not taking any risks then bash others for doing the same although Pac didn't fight nearly as cautious as Floyd. He just couldn't set up his usual offense against an opponent who moved as much as Floyd. Problem with this argument is Floyd is a boxer/counter puncher/defensive specialist that stayed true to his style. Manny, the volume puncher didn't. The fight was always about which style would win. Manny not fighting to win robbed us of that style matchup. Had he fought with his usual style and really tried to win, Floyd's volume would have increased or he may have lost. Manny essentially made the same choice many of Floyd's opponents have-lose by shutout/wide UD rather than risk winning and possibly get KO'd.

Someone can turn around and use the argument that Floyd fans praise Floyd for and say that Pac was able limit Floyd's offense and as a result Floyd landed less on Pac than he's landed on many of his past opponents. You cant praise Floyd for fighting cautious and not taking any risks then bash others for doing the same although Pac didn't fight nearly as cautious as Floyd. He just couldn't set up his usual offense against an opponent who moved as much as Floyd.

Hatton faced a Prime Floyd, and it was a competitive fight and he went out on his shield People look at Hatton gettin TKO'd, but they forget how he was landing on Floyd and not allowing him to breath Hatton put up a better fight than Pac Can't disagree. The atmosphere was crazy, much better than the Pac fight. Hatton didn't show Floyd any respect at all - and that is the only way anyone will ever beat him.

Yet he averaged around the same amount of punches landed before he was injured as when he did after. He won 1 of the first 5 rounds. Outclassed. Outclassed my a55. The rounds when Manny picks up the pace, he stayed the same and barely used the right hand. Stop being dumb. You know it was not his normal fight, it was easy to see. Hater.

I'm sure he wanted to let his hands go but as you know, or should know, it's not easy with a torn rotator cuff. Just see how he was doing in rd. 4 when the tear worstened again. He had Floyd turtled up , scared to death. Could've sworn he said round 3. Anyway that doesn't explain the reason he used it without any indication of discomfort for the remainder of the fight.

i think pacquiao would have done better if floyd actually hit him hard he's shown in the past that he usually fights harder after being tagged by a good shot although maybe not, after the ko he let bradley get away with big shots I'm sure he wanted to let his hands go but as you know, or should know, it's not easy with a torn rotator cuff. Just see how he was doing in rd. 4 when the tear worstened again. He had Floyd turtled up , scared to death.

Thing is when Cortez did let them fight inside, Floyd proved to be the superior inside fighter. Hatton was just making it physical but Cortez breaking them so quickly may have enabled Hatton to last longer lol. Not by a long shot. When they got on the inside, Floyd made space by elbowing and bending over into the ropes with his back to Hatton. Then, the ref broke up the exchange asap. Don't even try that B#llsh@t.

i think pacquiao would have done better if floyd actually hit him hard he's shown in the past that he usually fights harder after being tagged by a good shot although maybe not, after the ko he let bradley get away with big shots

His chin had little to do with losing, if Manny was to make it closer it would have been his quicker feet and higher volume when he was younger. Floyd beats any version of Manny 9/10. Manny doesn't do well against counter punchers especially not one like Floyd who won't exchange with him. Pac was limited from round 5 on and it was because he was hurt. Stop trying to make it like just got outclassed because he didn't.

It's been well documented that Mayweathers counters make fighters think which in turn slows them down. I think Pac was surprised by Mayweathers speed of hand & foot. Throw a less mobile fighter in there and Pac would of beat them down aka Danny Garcia. Went Pac threw those combos in the 4th they were still blazing fast but hitting nothing. Discouraging to say the least. If they was Marquez not Mayweather 4 of the 8 punches would of landed. Its a shame Pac has a small reach he countered Mayweather nicely at times. Were people so fixated on Mayweather having not seen that kind of speed in a while THAT...they forgot Mayweather was considerably faster than anyone Pacquiao has ever faced?

It's been well documented that Mayweathers counters make fighters think which in turn slows them down. I think Pac was surprised by Mayweathers speed of hand & foot. Throw a less mobile fighter in there and Pac would of beat them down aka Danny Garcia. Went Pac threw those combos in the 4th they were still blazing fast but hitting nothing. Discouraging to say the least. If they was Marquez not Mayweather 4 of the 8 punches would of landed. Its a shame Pac has a small reach he countered Mayweather nicely at times.