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I'm pretty sure that the OP made the exact same sort of prediction about Matthysse beating Danny Garcia based on the same kind of logic. Here's a quote made by the OP from an old Matthysse/Garcia post: What does Garcia do better than Alexander and Judah? He might harder than Alexander but power is not what you need to beat Lucas. His boxing and speed are not better than Alexander's or Judah's. And as for the bold, how you figured Garcia can handle Lucas' power? He's been hurt by Morales and Judah. And how is he gonna take Lucas' power away? The guy doesn't box nor does he move well. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Well lookee here! Casual alert. To quote the OP: It just goes to show the type of idiocy people will say in this place. They think just cause they post in a boxing forum that they know something. When in reality, they don't.

Lara isn't calling anyone out. Lara's management is using Lara's managed twitter account to name associate Lara with more relevant and popular boxers for populist reasons, exploiting peoples ignorance as to how boxing fights are made, and as a means of promoting him. Like when Lara's management used Lara's managed Twitter account to "call out" GGG, and when Lara's management leaked Lara's name to the media as a prospective opponent for Miguel Cotto. Management companies have press divisions that release press statements in boxers names and also utilize social media to promote fighters contracted to them, amongst other things. Lara's management promote him well. If they didn't do what they do Lara would be completely anonymous and even fewer people would give a **** about him that currently do.

The OP has a good point. Personally, I think that in any close fights between a white man and a black/semi-black man, the non white fighter should always lose the fight on the grounds that it's racist if he doesn't. I would go so far as to suggest that even if a white fighter beats a black/semi-black man by knock out, instead of being awarded the victory he should be disqualified and charged by the police with some form of racially aggravated assault, instead. Racism needs to be booted out of boxing, and the best way to do this is to show overt favoritism to black boxers. To do otherwise would be racist.

I don't see what the big deal is. Freddie Roach is just showing the same signs of delusion, exaggeration and subjectivity, that a large percentage of people that post on this site exhibit daily when they post about the fighters that they have a fan-boy crush on. The only difference is that Roach is being paid instead of being ridiculous for free.

I wonder y don't danny garcia fight Juan Manuel marquez he fought Erik morales 2 times I would love to see that I wonder y nobody's pushing for that fight You talk like he could just want the fight and thus it will happen. Boxing fights aren't made by boxers wanting to fight another fighter, things are a little bit more complex than that. Garcia fought Morales twice because Morales invoked a rematch clause. Also, JMM fights at welterweight and Garcia does not. JMM has also stated the he has no wish to fight at 140 and wants to win another title at 147. There are more reasons for why the fight hasn't/wont happen, but it isn't a fight for which there is any point or purpose for either fighter.

People have got to use their common sense. Paulie isn't going to ***** on a product being paid for by his employer and promoted by the people that make his fights. No one would do that, it could lead to any number of repercussions, and it should be obvious that what he says and what he thinks are two different things.

Yes they would say that, and no Floyd wouldn't fight against Maidana the way Lara fought against Canelo. Unlike Lara, Floyd isn't one dimensional and actually has a developed defense that goes beyond athleticism and constant backwards movement.

BULLSH*T. at the end of the day, the boxers are the boss. They are a one man nba/nfl/football franchise. boxers are the owners/manager/coach star player all rolled into one. you ought to get mildly beaten for that sorry excuse of a post. hated it when pacquiao does it. hated it when floyd did it. stop hiding behind your promoter/manager. they work for you. Seems to me that on this site a high post count is commensurate with a complete lack of understanding as to how boxing works, delusion, zealotry, stupidity, ignorance, resentment and no ability to be objective. But then I'm sure that you already understand this, so I'll just move on.

How is he cherry picking? Like every other boxer out there, his fights are made by his promoter and accepted or refused by his manager. Promoters choose opponents whom they pitch to managers who decide whether fighters they represent should fight those opponents or not. That is how boxing works. I have no idea if Garcia has power of refusal if his manager and promoter are in agreement as to who he should fight, but Danny isn't choosing who he fights, but fighting who he's offered. If you were a boxer and you were offered a good payday to do your job, you would do it regardless of who the opponent was. If he doesn't fight, he doesn't get paid, and neither does anyone else involved with him. If you don`'t like who Danny Garcia is fighting, blame the matchmakers his manager and the TV network that sanctioned the event, because those are the people responsible for who he is fighting. Don't criticize a boxer for doing his job, just because you have an irrational dislike for the boxer.

No, this fight would break Compubox records for the lowest amount of punches thrown and landed and it would make Randall Bailey v Devon Alexander look like the most action packed fight of the Gatti v Ward trilogy. Lara refuses to throw first unless someone walks into his range and, preferably, throws first against him and falls short. He's only capable of fighting against someone who fights to his strengths by throwing and missing. Floyd isn't fighting to Lara's strengths, he doesn't have to and absolutely wont. Lara has to beat Floyd, which means he will have to be on the offensive, which he both isn't very good at and and doesn't like to do. This fight would either resemble Trout v Lara, where Trout threw first every time and was countered, with Lara taking taking the role of Trout and Mayweather that of Lara, or it would be the first ever 36 minute staring contest in boxing history, where Mayweather would get the nod because his stare carried more weight with the judges. Terrible fight, and I'm glad that it'll never happen.

Things I've learned. Athleticism = boxing ability. Being a great athlete = being a great boxer. Running = slick boxing. Being able to fight on the front foot and on the inside and actually throwing punches = face first brawling. Standing outside of your opponents reach, never throwing first and using your reflexes/reactions to avoid a punch that falls short before landing a single counter shot and then running away makes you a brilliant boxer, even if you can't do any of the things a face first brawler can do, and you have no developed defense outside of your legs. Fighter A needs to move up and test himself against fighter B, for no other reason than that I don't like fighter A, and even if fighter B won't do the same. If I like a fighter and he loses a close fight, an opponent on PEDS/referees/judges being bribed, were responsible. If I like a fighter and he wins a controversial decision, it's because he's great! If I have conditioned myself to hate a boxer, then they are a bum and I will always find reasons for their victories that don't reflect positively on them, such as they on PEDS/referees/judges being bribed, until such a time arrives when they lose, at which point I will brand them a bum that was exposed and have been proved right all along. If I like a fighter and he loses clearly, he just had a bad night. People with large heads are on PEDS. Professional athletes with scientifically designed training routines and nutritional intakes are on PEDS if they are in good shape and over 35. People with acne on their bodies are on PEDS. Not being educated to a high standard, not having been to university, not having studied biology of chemistry at the university that they didn't go to, not knowing the name of a single PED, not knowing how a PED works, not knowing how a PED affects the physical body.... none of that prevents people here from looking at a boxers body and knowing for a fact whether they are on PEDS or not. The only boxers that aren't on PEDS are small headed fat people with good skin. Boxers all choose who they fight by calling out other boxers via twitter. Managers, promoters and TV networks all work for boxers and have no say in who boxers fight. If I don't like a top boxer and he gets matched with a journeyman then it`s because he's cherry picking. If I do like a top boxer and he gets matched with a journeyman then its because his manager/promoter made the fight for him. There are other things that I've learned, but these things will do for the time being.

Flat footed, telegraphs his punches, cant cut the ring and doesnt bring anything Cotto has never seen before. I think Cotto wins by TKO and dismantles Canelo. I'm pretty certain that your critique of Canelo is based on an actual unbiased and completely neutral assessment of their various skill sets, and not just because you're a Cotto fan and thus automatically disrespect and devalue any prospective opponent of someone whom you like. The ironic thing is, everything you say about Canelo after his fight with Lara could also have been applied to Cotto after his fight with Austin Trout, who humiliated him. Based on his dismal performance against Trout, I wonder how Cotto would have coped with Lara? I'm guessing that Cotto would have dominated him, what with his ability to cut off the ring, not telegraph his punches, and not be flat footed. Which begs the questions, why did Cotto struggle so much with someone that Canelo was able to beat, and why did Canelo have far less trouble with Lara, who did two hundred victory laps of the ring before the scores were even announced and who is a vastly more difficult fighter to fight against than trout, if Canelo is so poor compared to Cotto?

Martinez may not have re-injured his knee or re-broken his hand, but that doesn't mean he isn't shot. Martinez was never a great boxer. He's was a great athlete who, sadly, seems to have lost most of his athleticism. Hand and foot speed, mobility, reflexes and reactions, all of these things are obviously greatly diminished even from when Martinez fought Barker and Macklin, and he wasn't the fighter then that he was when he fought Williams and Pavlik. Martinez has been down eight times in his last 5 fights, which is more times than Amir Khan has been down in his entire 32 fight career, and Khan has a tragic defense and low punch resistance. No "elite" p4p or even top ten fighter should be touching the canvas that much. I personally believe that Martin Murray beat Martinez and I see Murray as being little more than a British domestic level fighter. I know that Cotto fans will blind themselves to any truths that somehow cast a shadow over his win over Martinez, and it was a good piece of matchmaking on the part of Cotto's advisers for which Cotto was paid 7 Million dollars for the "risk". But much in the same way that Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson beat a badly faded Roy Jones JR, Cotto fought and beat a very past prime Sergio Martinez who is a shadow of the athlete that he once was, and much like Roy Jones JR, when a fighters whole style is built upon their physical gifts and those gifts fade, you`re left with a fighter that has very little else to offer.

Zealotry, stupidity, ignorance, resentment and a complete lack of objectivity. All prevalent traits in so many of the ridiculous delusional morons that post their subjective bile on this; the boxing equivalent of a religious extremist, site. See what you want to see, believe what you want to believe and let your obvious resentment for a fighter greatly affect how you interpret their performance. Very sad.

Bradley can sometimes get his predictions wrong. Like this one here: boxingscene.com/bradley-peterson-best-140-beats-matthysse--62843 (note: I wasn`t able to put the link even though it`s to an article on this site, so you`ll have to put the missing bit in yourselves or search it on Google). Also, Bradley thinks that he beat Manny Pacquiao and that Ruslan Provodnikov beats everyone at 140 to 147. Maybe what Bradley says should be treated with a little bit of scepticism.

He schooled Lara? I must have been taking a dump when that happened. How would Lara be the best in the division when he drew with both Molina, and Vanes Martirosyan who were, and still are, as good as him until proven otherwise? But no, Canelo was, pre-Maywether, the best in the division because he beat Trout, who was apparently the best in the division after he beat Cotto. At least, that`s what I gather from reading the various Trout vs Cotto pre and post fight threads on this site, where it was said that Canelo would never fight Trout because Trout was too good and too slick. It`s kind of amusing really. It seems that today's Boogeyman that everyone is avoiding is tomorrows bum that everyone quickly forgets. I guess when Lara loses, which he came perilously close to doing against Angulo, people desperate to find a credible challenge for Mayweather will move on to someone else. Floyds ducking Molina! Floyds ducking Jermall Charlo! Lol...

GGG stays busy and active. I'm sure he could pick up an extra fight in between HBO dates. If the desire was there. Lara doesn't make his own fights, no boxer does. Lara works for GoldenBoy Promotions. They decide who he fights. He is contracted to them and they have rights over him for the duration of his legally binding contract until its expiry. He called out GGG to generate column inches for himself, not because there was any real possibility of this fight happening. GoldebBoy would not attempt to make a fight for one of their fighters that couldn't be screened on either FOX sports or Showtime. And that`s assuming that HBO doesn't have some jurisdiction over who GGG fights even when he isn't fighting on US soil.

All Joseph Agbeko did was to try to survive, perfectly predictable under the circumstances, as we both know.. Why do people make excuses for Rigondeaux's risk averse performance against Agbeko? Plenty of fighters are over-matched and try to survive, that doesn't mean that you should allow them to do so. Curtis Stevens tried to survive against GGG, but GGG didn't allow him to do so. Most fighters are prepared to risk being hit to land a punch, most fighters are prepared to risk losing to win, and a tiny minority of fighters are risk adverse to the point where they want to win, but not as much as the don't want to lose, and so they take as few a risks as possible. That`s the kind of fighter that Rigondeaux was against Agbeko. Agbeko was directly in front of Rigondeaux for almost the entire duration of the fight. He didn't run, he just stood there not throwing any punches, so what stopped Rigondeaux from attempting to force a stoppage against an over-matched and unwilling opponent, outside of his complete lack of desire to do so? It`s foolish to hate on Arum for the way Rigondeaux chooses to perform in the ring. Arum didn't make thousands turn off their TV`s and hundreds leave the arena, that was Rigondeaux's risk averse and fan-unfriendly style. Boxers are products, and when they fight on TV they should understand this and market themselves accordingly. Arum told Rigondeaux in the past that he need to be more TV friendly and take more risks, and Rigondeaux ignored that wise advice and did the opposite. Boxing fans, predominately casuals, watch boxing to be entertained and not to be anesthetized, and if they don`t enjoy the way someone fights then they don`t enjoy the way someone fights. The masses that are responsible for the success or failure of any entertainment product, of which a boxer is, don`t enjoy the way Rigondeaux fights and they don`t want to watch him. Also, I find it kind of ridiculous that people keep suggesting certain opponents/types of opponent for Rigondeaux to look good against. How sad that a supposedly great boxer should need hand picked opponents that will fight to his strengths, just to make him look good. He can either fight on the front foot and lead first or he can't, he can either choose to go forward and take risks or he can choose not to. But cherry picking opponents only to make a fighter look good is something to be frowned upon, not encouraged. A great boxer should be able to look great against any kind of opponent, not just those hand picked to make them do so.

Lol at people believing the nonsense that appears on Lara's managed social media accounts. Lara has never called anyone out. Lara's management, however, always utilize Lara's managed social media accounts and press releases in Lara`s name, to promote him in the media, usually by name associating him with as many popular fighters as possible. They've name associated him with GGG, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, and when Keith Thurman-Robert Guerrero did over 4 million views on CBS, they called Thurman out, too. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670108 Its just a form of promotion that gets people talking about a fighter and that sees web pages being indexed by Google via topic title. So, for example, when people search for `GGG` they'll eventually find Lara's name cropping up. Many boxers, under instruction of managers and promoters, and of their own free will, do this regularly as a means of promotion/self promotion. It wouldn't be so effective, especially in the case of Lara, if people didn't actually believe that boxing fights were made by boxers calling each other out, but they do and so it is. Well done Lara's management!

This fight would break Compubox records for the lowest amount of punches thrown and landed and it would make Randall Bailey v Devon Alexander look like the most action packed fight of the Gatti v Ward trilogy. Lara refuses to throw first unless someone walks into his range and, preferably, throws first against him and falls short. He's only capable of fighting against someone who fights to his strengths by throwing and missing or by walking into his range without throwing, whereby he can use his long reach, and is predominately a great athlete, not a great boxer, and even when people fight to his strengths he doesn't exactly look good; Angulo and Canelo being examples of how poor Lara can look. Floyd isn't fighting to Lara's strengths, he doesn't have to and absolutely wont. Lara has to beat Floyd, which means he will have to be on the offensive, which he both isn't very good at and doesn't like to do. This fight would either resemble Trout v Lara, where Trout threw first every time and was countered, with Lara taking taking the role of Trout and Mayweather that of Lara, or it would be the first ever 36 minute staring contest in boxing history, where Mayweather would get the nod because his stare carried more weight with the judges. Terrible fight, and I'm glad that it'll never happen.

He doesn't throw punches that put him on the mat. Also his Ameatur record is ridiculous. Every boxer whose seen him through the amateurs seems to agree, he's a hell of a boxer when he chooses to be Devon Alexander has a 300-10 amateur record, yet when Lucas Matthysse fought him Matthysse landed more overall punches, 29 more scoring punches and even a higher percentage of his jabs connected. In other words, in spite of giving up height, reach, and speed, Matthysse did better against Devon Alexander than Alexander did against Matthysse. Matthysse also landed landed more over all punches, and more power (scoring) punches against Zab Judah than Judha landed against him, again whilst giving up height, reach and speed. Statistically, Matthysse has done better against everyone he`s ever fought than they've done against him, even though in most fights Lucas gives up height and reach. You don`t do better than everyone you've ever fought, in spite of being physically disadvantaged, unless you have some boxing ability.

Spring or summer? Make it for December. Brook has fought enough nobodys. Time to fight some real champions There isn't going to be a boxing event, that will probably last for around 5 or 6 hours and finish around midnight, being held in an outdoor stadium during winter time. In the north of England especially, the temperature will probably be below freezing and as likely as not, it'll be raining or possibly snowing. Hern wants people to come out in large numbers, buy beers beers and enjoy themselves. He doesn't want people dying of hypothermia whilst the ring gets flooded.