Dear Bob,
I read your comments once again trashing Guillermo Rigondeaux.
Let me remind you that it became clear to us well before the bout that Joseph Agbeko was, to use a euphemism, " troubled ". We asked, through Mr. English, that an opponent likely to be more competitive be used. The public does not know this. But you do.
All Joseph Agbeko did was to try to survive, perfectly predictable under the circumstances, as we both know.
Now you are once again trashing Guillermo Rigondeaux for following the direction of Top Rank and of HBO in fighting an opponent who did not want to be there and who simply wished to survive.
Tell the public the truth. Tell them that we knew full well that Agbeko was an inappropriate opponent and that Mr. Rigondeaux's representatives said so. Tell the truth and blame those who went forward in light of the advice to select another opponent. Tell the public who made the decision to use Agbeko, who made the decision to keep him in light of unmistakable signs as to the likelihood he would simply fight to survive (at best) and stop trashing the fighter you promote.
We look forward to Rigondeaux's next bout. It is time that Top Rank schedule same.
Gary Hyde
http://******.craveonline.com/news/315601-guillermo-rigondeauxs-manager-tells-bob-arum-to-stop-disparaging-his-fighter
Interesting ****. Glad somebody is standing up for the guy.
true this! even the fight began people left!
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if you can see some dont even bother watching him fight LOLYou most be an idiot or trying to became one, the fans were there to root for tapia not GR, after the beating he received from james the crowd left the building in a very sad mood,
I am a big Rigondeaux fan ..and Arum annoyingly bad mouths him but Arum did deliver him about 750k-900k for the Donaire fight which is good bread for a non-english speaking fighter on American TV. I wonder how much he got Rigo for stay busy fight vs Agbeko I would guess at least 300k but don't know for sure..so Bob isn't doing all bad by Rigo his words seem stupid but cash is always one of the greatest expressions of appreciation in the business world.
I agree. Top Rank was doing an excellent job with him up until he nearly shutout Donaire. After that win, all hell broke loose.
He was offered undercard vs brawler Avalos x2 but didnt want it since it was for 350k which is well short of his 550k minimum. Thats a fortune for what he brings to the table
If I were Rigo's advisor, I might've urged him to take the Avalos fight. It was on the undercard of the Paquaio-Rios fight and would've gotten Guillermo some nice exposure (again). But it's not so simple. This isn't mere greed on Rigo's part. He's a 33 year old fighter in a lower weigh-class. He has to provide for his future very quickly. Taking a 200k pay-cut has to be weighed against potential future earnings. It's a lot of money to make up. Not to mention, it sets a precedent. If it happens once, his promoters will expect it again.
yeah I don't know. I've watched plenty of Agbeko fights, he's always been a game and active fighter. And he was a credible name, which I think is why HBO sought him out. If team Rigo thought otherwise, I'd have to question their logic.
the problem with a lot of you nsb posters is you're in love with fighters, not with boxing. There's nothing wrong with liking Rigondeaux (like I do) and just admitting he could have done more in that fight (like I do). Most of the blame lies with Agbeko, but Rigo is far, FAR too talented and strong a hitter to coast imo. I don't think Arum is right, and I don't think Gary Hyde is either. It's not about picking sides, in fact I think it's quite obvious they're all f*cking wrong. Pointing fingers at one another isn't gonna solve this problem and taking this to the media will only make it worse.
Ultimately, Rigo deserves better respect from Arum and if people are tuning out of his main event then he's not a main event fighter, throw him on undercards. Pay him a little less per fight and try to get him more dates. Start there and adjust where needed, but keep your ego out of the media. Open letters, smh, you guys are grown men who have each others phone number.
He was offered undercard vs brawler Avalos x2 but didnt want it since it was for 350k which is well short of his 550k minimum. Thats a fortune for what he brings to the table
yeah I don't know. I've watched plenty of Agbeko fights, he's always been a game and active fighter. And he was a credible name, which I think is why HBO sought him out. If team Rigo thought otherwise, I'd have to question their logic.
the problem with a lot of you nsb posters is you're in love with fighters, not with boxing. There's nothing wrong with liking Rigondeaux (like I do) and just admitting he could have done more in that fight (like I do). Most of the blame lies with Agbeko, but Rigo is far, FAR too talented and strong a hitter to coast imo. I don't think Arum is right, and I don't think Gary Hyde is either. It's not about picking sides, in fact I think it's quite obvious they're all f*cking wrong. Pointing fingers at one another isn't gonna solve this problem and taking this to the media will only make it worse.
Ultimately, Rigo deserves better respect from Arum and if people are tuning out of his main event then he's not a main event fighter, throw him on undercards. Pay him a little less per fight and try to get him more dates. Start there and adjust where needed, but keep your ego out of the media. Open letters, smh, you guys are grown men who have each others phone number.
freaking green k
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you would think golden boy would be good for rigo but they aren't doing much for lara though. they wouldn't give him canelo or molina.
GB still better with Lara than TR with Rigo. And I dont prefer one promoter to the next TBH but what TR is doing to Rigo is wrong. We have the next Sweet Pea right here in front of us and TR is smearing him SMDH.
yeah I don't know. I've watched plenty of Agbeko fights, he's always been a game and active fighter. And he was a credible name, which I think is why HBO sought him out. If team Rigo thought otherwise, I'd have to question their logic.
the problem with a lot of you nsb posters is you're in love with fighters, not with boxing. There's nothing wrong with liking Rigondeaux (like I do) and just admitting he could have done more in that fight (like I do). Most of the blame lies with Agbeko, but Rigo is far, FAR too talented and strong a hitter to coast imo. I don't think Arum is right, and I don't think Gary Hyde is either. It's not about picking sides, in fact I think it's quite obvious they're all f*cking wrong. Pointing fingers at one another isn't gonna solve this problem and taking this to the media will only make it worse.
Ultimately, Rigo deserves better respect from Arum and if people are tuning out of his main event then he's not a main event fighter, throw him on undercards. Pay him a little less per fight and try to get him more dates. Start there and adjust where needed, but keep your ego out of the media. Open letters, smh, you guys are grown men who have each others phone number.
Arum may diss rigo but has delivered the cash.
I am a big Rigondeaux fan ..and Arum annoyingly bad mouths him but Arum did deliver him about 750k-900k for the Donaire fight which is good bread for a non-english speaking fighter on American TV. I wonder how much he got Rigo for stay busy fight vs Agbeko I would guess at least 300k but don't know for sure..so Bob isn't doing all bad by Rigo his words seem stupid but cash is always one of the greatest expressions of appreciation in the business world.
So they told Bob before the fight that Agbeko wasn't a good opponent, and Rigo's manager still offered him the fight and let him sign after they told him they wanted a different fighter, maybe I missed something, but how is this Bob's fault?
What a crock. Nothing against Rigo himself. The manager *****es about the opponent not being competitive (several times) but takes no accountability as to why his fighter couldn't seal the deal if this opponent wasn't competitive. I'm not complaining about Rigo, just his manager's piss poor argument, which makes his fighter look bad. Instead of elevating his fighter he's dragging other guys down. Maybe Rigo just needs someone who can represent him better.
Donaire vs Narvaez, Pacquiao vs Clottey/Mosley were boring. That was not Donaire/Pac's fault. Why were Donaire-Arce/Montiel/Vazquez Jr exciting? Why was did Pacquiao find it so easy to hit Hatton/Cotto/Margarito and got his fans excited?
Give Rigondeaux the line up of Arce, Montiel and Vazquez Jr and watch him light them up since they will come forward and they will not use defense.
Let's see Rigondeaux vs Santa Cruz n Showtime and watch it be exciting.
Arum is simply bitter about Rigo beating his most prized lower weight possession and has now started a rare smear campaign against his own fighter, something he resorts to doing to rival promoters fighters. Instead of giving him defenseless fighters like he did to Donaire and Pacquiao, he gives him a dirty fighter in Agbeko. Dirty fighter vs Defensive fighter = Terrible match up and Arum, that f*cking fossil, knows this.
In other words feed him the Mezicans.
Rigo just that good and its a shame he not getting his respect!
If a world class fighter wants to survive and makes up his mind to do so, he will.
No he didn't. Agbeko set a record for least amount of punches thrown in a fight. He beat Randall ****in Bailey. Stevens was fighting back and showed a lot of heart in that fight.
That's stupid. A professional athlete's job is to win. In Rigo's case, he is more marketable undefeated and holding world titles than he is with a loss. Guys like Canelo and Rios can lose 3 times and still sell. If Rigo takes a loss his career is over. He doesn't have the ability to take risks like others do. And then there is the risk of getting robbed if he opens up and lets his opponent hit him.
Navaraez, Clottey, Guerrero, Burgos and numerous other fighters showed up to survive and much more offensive minded fighters were unable to finish them. Rigo is just the scapegoat because he's an easy target to pick on.
Arum is the one that signed him to a lucrative contract worth a half a million per fight. He knew damn well how Rigo fought, his lack of English speaking skills and his weight class way before the contracts were signed. Now he's trying to blame Rigo for his own stupidity.
Boxers are professional athletes and in order to have a long successful, lucrative hall of fame career, you have to keep winning. Being boring isn't as bad as losing.
Arum shouldn't be telling fighters how to fight. His job is to promote. If you feel you can't do our job, then give somebody else a chance to try it out.
Its irrelevant because casuals don't give a **** about the 122 pound division. It had its moments when you had the popular Mexican fighters back in the day and Nonito with the Filipino fanbase but other than that, nobody gives a **** about this division.
It's boxing management 101. You build fighters up by feeding them opponents to make them look good. Like with GGG. That's why slick fighters are avoided so much. Why do you think Kirkland, a 154 pounder is getting a shot over a proven MW like Sergio Mora?
Rigo didn't look bad against Agbeko. He actually fought a perfect fight and looked great. It was just one sided and lacked action.
Masterly post. :fing02:
Even in those "boring" fights minus really Garcia's, they put forth an effort at least, manny threw some hard shots, floyd landed a lot of power punches....Rigo threw a lot of trout-ish jabs at air, and landed almost none...while his power shots were landing at 41% against a guy with little defense. 17% connect rate against a non defensive fighter is bad bad news.
People coming in fabricating arguments when it's painfully clear Arum has been on a hit campaign to try and destroy Rigo's livelihood. Nice one, fellas. :rolleyes:
I'm sick of reading 1001 excuses in favor of Rigo. He drew record low ratings...the people have spoken. He is very skilled but the casuals will never care.
If he's pretending like you're accusing him of I'm sure Arum will refute his comments pretty soon. I would hope he's smart enough not to release false information to the media.
Either Hyde is pretending or he's living in a fantasy land where he thinks Arum can force anyone he wants to fight Rigo.
Agbeko was in the fact the best available opponent. How many other guys do you know of that were screaming to get in the ring with Rigo?