He got shut out against an ordinary fighter in Santa Cruz, and went life and death with Arturo Gatti 2.0 (Katsidis).
He showed up looking better against Marquez, but... seriously?
Watch him fight Diego Corrales and Acelino Freitas, and then watch his fights against Santa Cruz, Katsidis and Marquez.
He was obviously way past his prime.
agreed.
even before the katsidis fight Cassa was analyzed by these forums as a fast prime fighter.
Still a very good win though for Marquez as Cassa is naturally bigger than him and has a very good resume.
*Just rewatched the lincona fight and i had to say Juan Manuel Marquez is a ****in beast. that guy outweighs him by 20lbs!! and he totally schools him.
You mean Floyd can break Pac like Morales did???
that 139lbs PAC? Yes. that's a GREEN and small Pacquiao without the accurate right hook and sliding footwork.
Today's Pacquiao is @147-148lbs
Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter, and he's proved this in his comprehensive anihilation of ODLH, and Ricky Hatton within the last year. His victories over David Diaz and JMM were also great fights where he displayed a lot of skill.
But there is a clear and obvious degree of delusion among his more fanatical fans, MANY of whom post on this website who seem convinced that after his last few fights he has been elevated to some kind of place where he is untouchable. He wins fights, but in MANY moments in his fights he has lousy footwork, loses his balance, throws wild punches, and displays a general lack of grace that someone like FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. could and will exploit, brutally.
PAC is a CHAMP, and I respect the hell out of him as a fighter and a champion of great humility, so I don't want to hear all of you crazy pac fans start your ****ing crazy defensive bitching, and just try to use your heads.
Your boy is a great fighter, he's aggressive and he's pulled out some good wins in the last year - but you're ****ing delusional if you think that the Manny Pac who beat ODLH and HATTON can beat Mayweather. Full credit for those victories, but the opponents he was facing had nowhere near the timing, boxing intelligence, and speed that Mayweather has and UNLESS Manny and Freddy Roach can improve Manny even more, WHICH THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, I'm not saying it's impossible, but unless they really improve some parts of his game you can and should expect Mayweather to pick Manny's bull-headed aggresion apart with clean shots all night.
Funny how quick people elevate their fighters after a couple of good wins. Reality always brings ya back down.
You're a fuc_king delusional as well if you think he has no chance.
a couple of good wins? thats it you're a noob :?!:
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He was asked which one he likes to fight among the 3 ( pbf,JMM, Cotto)
'Mas ok nga si Floyd Mayweather, gusto ko yung maraming sinasabi'
I like Mayweather because i like those who talks a lot
* on Mayweather Marquez
"He's Faster but Yung tapang ang pagusapan natin"
He's faster (Than JMM) but we also need to talk about courage.
-- He didnt admit that Floyd is faster than him he's talking about Floyd being faster than JMM
The Contract will be at a catchweight of 144. but the Welterweight Title will be on the line.
Cotto needs to take care of Clottey first. I still cant believe the bullshit that clottey needs to drop his belt to be able to secure a fight with cotto :(
had clottey kept the belt and cotto beat him its much easier to unify :(
Pac won't throw nearly that many punches once he's countered flush by Mayweather. You haven't even seen pac take a clean punch at 140. It's a whole new ballgame once you get hit, no? W/e yo want to belive buddy, but I think pac nut huggers will be in a big suprise when the king beats that ass and embarrasses him.
uuuhhhhh are you sure you want to use the word nuthugger?
i dont know u guys... but i want to come clear with this....
i have been in love ... and i mean in love with boxing... for about 15 years..... and the last time i felt so joy... and excited when a fighter was about to fight.... was with tito trinidad prior to bernard hopkins. Thats the best felling a boxing fan will ever have....
after that lost... i start to enjoy boxing more.... since i learn how to distinguish.... between who i want to win... and who i think is going to win. 2 different things....
i really know how you my fella pinoys feel right now!! and im not gonna diss.. critize... or any shit!!!! i know we have seen... threads bashing you guys.. and talking shi t cos you guys are enjoying this moment....
all i want to say is
ENJOY YOUR FU CKING DAMNNNNNNNNNNNN MOMENT!!!
because what you are living is somethin special!!
what his victory means to the phillipins...
was the same that ment to puerto rico tito's victories during his prime era.....
congratulations for having the best fuc kign fighter in the world right now.!!!
with all the attributes of a great star..!!
charisma, humble, a real warrior.. and a man down to earth when in fact he could be the most arrogant person in the world if he wanted 2!!
No, pac is not like that. Pac carries him self above that aura of superiority and all that shit.. that money do to people. He smiles.... he smiles at everything.. at good moments at bad moments.. cos is not only about him...its not about only his smile
its about his country... is about to see his country smiles 2....
thats a gift from GOD.. and i dont give a f u ck of what other might say .......
i know how you guys feel!! and I encourage you to keep feeling that way..
feel proud of your guy... cos damn it he deserve it!!!
WARRRRRRRRRRRR MANNY PAC!!!!!!
y de cari~o "bruce lee!!!!!!!
http://siu.i.ph/photo/d/181-1/manny+pacquiao.jpg
with love
a true fu cking boxing fan !
:boxing:
1st : Nice Thread :)
2nd : Thanks Ive been enjoying this since 2003 never in my wildest imagination that PAC would accomplished what he has done. its really incredible!!!
I have great great pride with Luisito Espinosa's Run and really proud of it. up to this day i still feel that Naz avoided Luisito for his own purpose but its not even comparable with PAC.
3rd : I didnt think you're pinoy :D
((( GREEN ))))
Many are still playing the game 'This Fighter is too big for pac'. :(
Maybe Mosley still has the Hand speed. but the foot speed? PAC wont trade with him he's the bigger man. PAC goes in land some hard shot and quickly goes out of harms way. Those right cross and left hooks that he landed on Marg will hit air againts PAC.
Im more scared of guys like Linares and JuanMa Lopez( if they move within a few years) than a 38 yr old Mosley
1) if pac and jmm were to fight at 140 how much would you expect each guy to weigh at the official weigh in
2)how much would you expect jmm/floyd to weigh in at the official weighin for their fight at 144
3) how much would you expect pacquiao/floyd to weigh at the official weighin if the fight was at 147?
Thanx
jmm 138 pac 138
jmm 142 pbf 144
pac 142/143 pbf 147
Don't know if this is old news but I read on another site that Miranda said he weighed as much as 240lbs before the Abraham Rematch. That is crazy! He said he lost 70lbs in 6 weeks. His whole camp was for weight lost basically!!! Ward ko 1 :ninja:
miranda had no problem making 30day weigh in.
for those interested have a bet on this one:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268342
Thanks that made me feel better :D
GBP offered Pac $10 Million for an immediate rematch. Pacquiao and Arum said No... This was before Oscar and Pac was ever thought possible.
Pac said Marquez would have to come up in weight and accept a 80/20 split, and he did, but they STILL ducked him.
Finally, Marquez said FUK you and called out the REAL p4p king, Mayweather!
$5M not 10 you ****in lying ALT!
Don't know if this is old news but I read on another site that Miranda said he weighed as much as 240lbs before the Abraham Rematch. That is crazy! He said he lost 70lbs in 6 weeks. His whole camp was for weight lost basically!!! Ward ko 1 :ninja:
Where did you get this info?
I got 250K pts on him againts Ward :( damn. at least make it competitive.
Someone with really high-workrate and who fights in a southpaw stance and throws awkward punches that he isn't used to fighting... Where ever could we find such a fighter? Those type of fighters do not exist! If those type of fighters existed they would be Roys Kryptonite.
LOL hahahahahahaahahahaha
I agree bro but we wont find out
I thought his first fight with Pacman was a much decisive win. It could have been 4 KD's, because Juan Manuel still won 11 rounds in a row! The Barrera fight was a close loss and the second Pacman fight was 115-113 to JMM. If he never went down, it wouldn't have even been close as he lost the round after getting his composure back
Naknamputah oh!! :smashfrea :smashfrea
JMM over Norwood
JMM over John (But he didnt do enough to Win in Indonesia)
Pac over JMM in fight 1
JMM over MAB ( The scores were just ridiculous )
Pac over JMM in fight 2 ( Scribes that scored it for JMM are equally Happy for a Pac win :) )
in Reality - JMM has 4 losses
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Is there one particular fight you've seen a silly amount of times? What keeps you coming back to watch it again?
Manny Pacquiao vs. Marco Antonio Barrera.
I didnt expect it to end that way. Pac was a huge underdog. I think i watched it everyday up until the Morales fight.
WOW! thanks!
Im a big Hearns fan and in the late 80's to early 90's i had imagined Thomas Hearns taking on a prime Mike Tyson :nonono: :banana::boxing::hitit:
seeing ali ( even an old one) againts Ali that justified my daydream ( nightmare). *I know Hearns might die in there againts Prime Mike