Floyd's defense is his primary weapon, he plays the game of hitting and not getting hit and can get away with potshoting and a low workrate because he rarely gets hit.
However this won't be the case against Pacquiao. Floyd's shoulder roll defense doesn't work against southpaws and he has been able to get away with it until now because he has yet to fight an elite southpaw.
The question is what will Floyd do when Pac begins tagging him like Zab did, Pac wont lose his focus in 4 rounds..he will win the fight.
I think this will be an amazing fight, its the ultimate speed vs the ultimate defense. But unforunately for Floyd, relying on defence only won't do if you're getting tagged, sooner or later he'll get drawn into a fight. Whan you take away his defense, will his handspeed outwork Manny's? I don't know i wouldn't like to call this fight.
Floyd's defense is his primary weapon, he plays the game of hitting and not getting hit and can get away with potshoting and a low workrate because he rarely gets hit.
However this won't be the case against Pacquiao. Floyd's shoulder roll defense doesn't work against southpaws and he has been able to get away with it until now because he has yet to fight an elite southpaw.
The question is what will Floyd do when Pac begins tagging him like Zab did, Pac wont lose his focus in 4 rounds..he will win the fight.
Pac is on a roll, a winning momentum. PBF will have doubts with himself, while Pac is now used to winning.
Pac won't throw nearly that many punches once he's countered flush by Mayweather. You haven't even seen pac take a clean punch at 140. It's a whole new ballgame once you get hit, no? W/e yo want to belive buddy, but I think pac nut huggers will be in a big suprise when the king beats that ass and embarrasses him.
uuuhhhhh are you sure you want to use the word nuthugger?
marquez wont hurt floyd as well. sure win by floyd
BREAKING NEWS!!!! We all know that. Just because u seen my sig u had to respond with that. I'm a big fan of both...i see floyd winning,cotto beating pac and bam cotto vs floyd
People so so so underrate Floyd's activity. Are you guys blind? Its so easy to see. His activity is only low when he's outweighed by 15 pounds. If he fights a guy his own weight then he always is much more offensive then you guys give him credit for. He wont run from Pac at all. Infact, I think he will be walking Pac down in this fight with the high guard like the other guy said. There are 2 ways he could fight Pac. He could come at him super fast like he did to Corley or he could slowley, cautiously walk him down like he did to Zab. I think he will do the latter because Floyd is always going to play to win and he knows that he may get caught like he did against Chop and it could be over. I think he will slowly walk Pac down and after 3 or 4 rounds, Pac wont ever come close to winning another round. I think Floyd will carve him up like a turkey. As good as JMM is, Floyd is still a much better fundemental fighter both Offensivley & defensivley.
The fact is that in every single sport defense wins championships and Pac has been killing guys but none of them have a good D, not even JMM. Everything totally changes when a guy runs up against a complete fighter. It will be much harder for Pac then it was in his other fights and thats not even counting Floyds awesome countering skills. The shoulder roll wont work unless they go in the pocket which I think they will do some but other then that I think he uses the Winky guard like he did against Zab after the 4th round and he will dominate him. I could see Pac jumping on Floyd early but after about 4 rounds the fight will be over and it will be comical and shocking how Floyd totally outclasses him and makes him look like a ameture
The only way Pac can win is if he hits hard enough to bother Floyd. If Floyd don't respect his power enough to shell up, I think it's over right there. I think Roach's strategy will be to run up the punch stats by trying to establish Pac as a hard hitter right out the gate, force the issue, and try to steal the bout winning 4 or 5 of the first 6 and then snatching 2 or 3 late rounds in a shocker. I don't think Manny is smart enough to deal with Floyd if he breaks the mold of any plan that gets cooked up, so I think trying to out wit him in there is a mistake. They're gonna press.
BUT we still haven't seen Manny get that jaw tested by a fighter this live and at this size yet so he could very well be KO'd.
In all honestly Pac would be target practice...
leads to the body...rights to the head...too easy for floyd.
lol, he times it, if he didn't anyone would hit him.
lol"lies on the ropes" to easy for pac
Why would Floyd get overwhelmed? Why didn't JMM get overwhelmed?
One clean counter right should keep him at bay. Mayweather by embarrassment and stoppage.
JMM didn't get overwhelmed because he threw 100 punches per round. Floyd throws like half that. Besides that fight happened a few years back, Pacquiao has improved even if you don't believe it.
You are probably counting Marquez out, but JMM just wiped out LW's best, he's not some clown who just gave Pacquiao problems, he's the p4p no.2 in the world. Don't be suprised if Marquez actually beats Mayweather, he knows if he loses he might not get his trilogy with Pacquiao.
For the record, JMM nearly did get overwhelmed, but he is a warrior and fought back ferociously. One clean counter isn't going to hold off a guy like Pacquiao, it's almost as if you haven't seen the guy fight.
Morales and Marquez couldn't hold him off with one counter, they had to throw 6 punch combinations for 12 rounds to keep him at bay, and he wasn't even that technical back then.
Floyd's defense is his primary weapon, he plays the game of hitting and not getting hit and can get away with potshoting and a low workrate because he rarely gets hit.
However this won't be the case against Pacquiao. Floyd's shoulder roll defense doesn't work against southpaws and he has been able to get away with it until now because he has yet to fight an elite southpaw.
The question is what will Floyd do when Pac begins tagging him like Zab did, Pac wont lose his focus in 4 rounds..he will win the fight.
Pacquiao will demolish him easier than most think. A good southpaw is one of the most dangerous opponents in the game. Not many southpaws are even legit, often dominant with only one hand. Pacquiao has both. Floyd get's overwhelmed after 8 rounds of non stop pressure. Just because a man has never lost doesn't mean he can't lose.
like floyd said, box him in circles, he can confuse pacquiao for a few rounds using his jabs and making pacquiao miss, and just counter punch and start piking up the pace,
im a floyd hater but for this fight in particular im rooting for floyd, i do understand pacquiao is unbeatable right now, is an interesting match-up, but i do believe in superior skills and ring generalship
And check out the punches he takes towards the end...
Note: Castillo was a WW by fight-time which you can hear them discussing it on the video (and in his prime)
Start time: 2:45......
Other opponents have also hit him like Oscar
Is he still the same fighter?
We'll see.
It would be interesting if someone tested him and they probably should.
Those were mainly body punches, there's only one right hand by Castillo that lands hard. Castillo also lacked the speed to catch Floyd with a punch he wont see coming(he was an accumulation power puncher).
Floyd's chin has never been truly tested, so we have yet to see how he responds to being in an actual battle.
And check out the punches he takes towards the end...
Note: Castillo was a WW by fight-time which you can hear them discussing it on the video (and in his prime)
Start time: 2:45......
Other opponents have also hit him like Oscar
Is he still the same fighter?
We'll see.
It would be interesting if someone tested him and they probably should.
Floyd has the speed and more importantly the reflexes and instinct to stay out of Pac's range imo. He may get troubled by Pac's workrate, but I seriously doubt Pac can accumulate enough landed shots to really hurt Floyd. I really dunno who to pick in this fight but I'm almost certain this will come down to a decision. If Floyd lands enough clean counters on a continually engaging Pac he can win even maybe knock him out, but Pac can win purely just on workrate as there is a bias towards aggression when it comes to judging....but if Pac lands a bomb like the one he did against Hatton, dayaum. That would be a bitch.
shoulder roll doesn't work but floyd can alway put up a high guard.
Its not the same and Money May knows it. Its not a coincidence that Corley hurt him and Zab hit him with a couple of flush straight left hands. Zab and Corley are not even B- fighters.
shoulder roll doesn't work but floyd can alway put up a high guard.
let's not forget he can also duck below his opponent's waist line.. I can see this troubling pac's offense which he can swing away air..
Mr boat buyer is bigger and stronger than Pac. He will get hit, but not enuf for Pac to get rid of him imo. And he'll be countered comin in all the way. Eventually Mr boat buyer will likely stop him, or win a UD.
i have largely been ignored whenever i mention this, but there are 2 things pac still does that could lead to exactly what your saying now. the fact that he still charges in practically head first before a barrage, and the fact that he falls in after throwing a big right hands, if i saw this, i know damn well roger and floyd saw it as well. Mayweather will get hit, but we have seen him take good shots, we also dont know how pac will handle mayweathers lead to the body.