Now, you have to be honest. you have to have seen the ENTIRE fight, and sat down and scored it. dont just look up 10 minutes of highlights and let that decide for you, and dont just listen to what youve heard other people say.
Did JMM win or lose against
-Freddie Norwood
-Chris John
-Barrera
-Pacquiao(1st)
-Pacquiao(2nd)
and dont just pick JMM because hes the better fighter, you have to score the fights individually.
and also dont give me that 'well, it says he won on his record, so he won!' or whatever. thats about the dumbest response you can possibly give on this type of thread. Its YOUR scorecard. .
...and dont bother giving your opinion if youre hopelessly biased either.
I thought his first fight with Pacman was a much decisive win. It could have been 4 KD's, because Juan Manuel still won 11 rounds in a row! The Barrera fight was a close loss and the second Pacman fight was 115-113 to JMM. If he never went down, it wouldn't have even been close as he lost the round after getting his composure back
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JMM over Norwood
JMM over John (But he didnt do enough to Win in Indonesia)
Pac over JMM in fight 1
JMM over MAB ( The scores were just ridiculous )
Pac over JMM in fight 2 ( Scribes that scored it for JMM are equally Happy for a Pac win :) )
in Reality - JMM has 4 losses
I rewatched the Norwood fight and scored it for JMM, I thought he won it clearly. I had Pacquiao winning both their fights with JMM winning more rounds in the first fight, had him beating Barrera. The John fight was tough to score, I it a draw because of the point deductions.
vs. norwood:
115-111 for marquez
vs. pacquiao 1:
113-112 for pacquiao
vs. john:
114-112 marquez
vs. barrera:
116-111 for marquez. i'd like to point out that barrera is possibly my favorite boxer.
vs. pacquiao 2:
114-113 for pacquiao
the knockdown in round 7 of the barrera fight is pretty much nonexistent because nady ruled it a slip. so, the round would most likely be scored 10-8 for marquez or 9-9 in favor of barrera.
I never seen the Norwood fight so I can't say anything about that, but I had him winning the John a Barrera fights. As for the Pac fights he didint really lose the first one because it was a draw even if there was a mistake on the scorecard but either way i has Pac winning both of them.
I think we can all agree that all of these fights were quite close on the scorecards, right?
some nuttjobs say he blew out barrera when that is far from the truth.
Haven't seen the norwood fight.
Can't remember my exact card for John, but I had JMM winning 9 or 8 rounds.
117-110 JMM over Barrera.
113-112 JMM over Pacquiao (this was pretty close)
115-112 JMM over Pacquiao II
I've been wondering for a while, whether the DQ loss in his very first fight was legit?
No. In the first part of the Norwood-Marquez video I posted Lampley says one of the judges had some action on the other fighter
wtf??man you sound dumb bashing a man because his favorite fighter is a fighter you dislike..floyd has 0 to do with this thread..im a boxing fan not just a floyd fan..im free to speak my opinion just like anyone else..if you dont like it..then its you with the problem
lol calm down
I don't hate Mayweather either, I just find most Floyd fans don't even know who Marquez is yet they seem to reply to these threads. They also compare Zab Judah to Pacquiao.
No hate..just saying...
norwood:115-111 jmm but should be 115-109 cause cortez is a blind doofus
john: 115-111 jmm but should be 117-111 the ref took points away for nothing
barrera: 116-111 jmm i scored round 7 10-9 barrera cause jmm dominated but then got knocked down and with the point deduction it goes to 9-9
pac 1: either 113-112 jmm or 113-112 pac
pac 2: either 114-113 jmm or 115-112 jmm
wow, thank you, I had no idea that fight was also on youtube. I knew the Chris John was, but the Norwood one must be new.
you can find almost anythign on youtube nowadays.
No problem. But be fore warned though, this is one of the SHITTIEST fights of all-time which makes it hard to score