I picked Sergio, shot or not bad knee whatever, he signed the contract and got in the ring, plenty of great fighters have gone out like that, in his mind he thought he had a chance or he wouldn't of took the fight, cotto looked impressive, I was surprised by his patience, accuracy and defense, he looked good.
#1 don't know who said Froch was the new king but he always gets owned by Ward.
#2 Ward is no really that picky he is having promotional issues.
With that said I don't really care for him or his fighting style
@deeznuts I'm guessing U.K Froch fans that where hyped up about the ko from the fight on those Groves -Froch 2 post, they are the ones saying Froch is the king...lol @Bringer are u saying Ward should move up in weight? He probably should its some nice fights for him in LHW if he can't get any MWs to move up to 168
more likely see Cotto vs Canelo since oscar and arum are buddies again, and that'd be a big money fight, I don't think HBO has built GGG a big enough PPV following yet
destroy all the organizations, and have one belt for each weight class signifying the true champion, hire a commissioner like the NFL, NBA, or MLB to watch over the product to make sure everything is running properly. I don't know who to blame more for the decline in boxing popularity, the organizations, the promoters, or PPV, although I am very happy that this was a good yr for boxing, hopefully it continues.
Ok, then why did Smoger give Miranda the chance to get off of the canvas after he was being brutally beaten the whole entire fight, but he doesn't let the MW Champion of the world have a chance of getting up?
Dibella paid off Smoger because Miranda/Taylor sounded way more attractive than Pavlik/Taylor at the time, look how Smoger practically helped Miranda stay up at one point....all speculation tho.......
I been saying on this board for the longest that Taylor's chin would eventually get exposed, I knew he had a bad chin when he got rocked by BHop and Winky neither of who's power is great, and Dibella couldn't always bail him out with gift decisions, I am in no way a JT hater, but I couldn't stand the fact that he acted like he was out there beatin ass when most of his victories where suspect, anyway there is now a true champion at MW and he looks like he is the real deal and will hold down the division for the next couple of yrs.
You guys ever heard of free will?
People choose whoever they wanna chose and calling them a dumbass is at least rude. Right or wrong, whatever, it's their choise.
Now, fuck off back into whatever shithole you come from.
Cunt.
Well then I'm a rude muthafucka, and I take it your one of the bitches, yea cocksucker I heard of free will yea you can hate on him all you want, but gotdamn I'm talking about the people who are obsessed with him loosing and their only post is Hatton will beat Floyd, Hatton will do this to Floyd, they were saying the same thing about Oscar, Baldomir, Gatti, Judah and anybody else Floyd has fought, usually when you hate somebody that bad pyschologically it's because you want to be that person. And if Floyd loosing will make the world a better place in your eyes then I truly feel sorry for you. So you telling me to fuck off back into whatever shithole I came from for posting this is like saying I shouldn't have posted it right? whatever happened to free will?
when ruslan chagaev dropped out of the unification fight ibragimov could have very well said "fuck it i want wladamir klitschko i want to prove that im the heavyweight champ" instead he says "hmmm evander holyfield looks like the crustiest old bastard on the list i think ill just take him on and justify it with a bunch of horseshit cliche shit about how hes a legend"
the problem with this division is that nobody will say wladamirs name above a whisper theyre all scared shitless of fighting him and are blatantly going out of their way not to fight him
wlad should knock out james toney and shannon briggs on the same night and donate gate to charity
Shannon Briggs can go jump off a friggin bridge I don't want to see that gotdamn wrestler anywhere near a boxing ring ever again with his "gassed midway through the 1st round" stamina, yea I know he has asthma and that's what makes him look like crap, Wlad would dance around him peppering him with jabs and hooks all night, and shannon would sit there and eat them up walking like frankenstein not throwing anything back for fear that he might loose his remaining energy, and I like Toney but that would be an ugly fight and we all know why. Watch, Wlad will probably fight the winner of the Holyfield - Ibragimov fight, and I guarantee you the Unification bout will be with Wlad having 2 belts and Chageav being stripped and Peter having 2 belts, probably summer or end of next year, lol all speculation :ugh:
only thing about that is what does Johnson have to gain from this fight? In my opinion nothing, he already beat Jones once and their is not belt their. Johnson is already ranked ahead of jones..No reason for him to fight him.
RJJ and Hanshaw fought for the vacant IBC Light HW title
great isnt the word...perhaps best....i dnt see the Dawson appeal myself....he's too raw..if he beats him..then people will juust say the same as with lacy..he was to raw....Kessler / Taylor ....and whoever has belts at light heavyweight...and its a very good resume.
PBF does need fights...and Cotto,Mosely..and maybe Williams....then i dnt think it can be disputed that he is the best...to beat Judah/Hatton/castillo/Cotto/Mosely/Williams ....id defy anyone to say he isnt the best then.....but it wont happen because he wont make the numbers he made against DHL or Hatton against someone like williams..unless williams gets himself a couple of belts..and a long unbeaten run.....personally..if Hatton gives mayweather trouble...but PBF still wins...it sets it up for Cotto...who is slower then Hatton..but punches harder...but we shall see
The difference between Chad Dawson and Lacy is Dawson is not one dimensional he has jabs, straights, and can box with both hands.
use that long jab as a weapon sometimes (ala Wlad) instead of as a scoring machine all night.
that's what I'm saying, I think with time and more experience he will start to utilize his jab in that manner, that's why I was thinking it would be good for him to train with someone to teach him how to "box" instead of jab jab jab power shot, jab jab jab power shot repeat, and like Steward was saying when he hits you with that power shot you can tell he's not squeezing his fist all the way on some of his punches
i saw him leaning into him after throwing a big shot closing off the space not allowing Margarito to throw those looping haymakers, which was smart, he did clinch a little in the middle rounds when he looked like he got a little winded, but after he was warned in the corner the majority was Margarito locking his arm under his, suprisingly almost getting PWill a point deduction.
Floyd is an in-ring running, one punch and done punching, pity-pat touching, Margarito/Mosley/and Cotto ducking, spear chucking, division jumping, BITCH!
Ok um where did the spear chucking come from?
and also as said in a different post, after Mosley-Vargas 2, Larry Merchant asked Mosley if he would accept Mayweathers challenge and if the fight was on the table, his response and I quote "Well right now my tooth is hurt, so I'm going to take some time and rest, he should fight Margarito", and then he had the nerve to wiggle his tooth, you mean to tell me 5-6 months aint enough time to get over a toothache, if Floyd pulled that shit you haters would crucify him, even if he was asked about an opponent you and I both know he would say "bring them on Imma tax that ass too".
Calzaghe gets slated for doing exacty the same thing.
From what I've seen, Williams' biggest threat is his intelligence. He's got the skills and physical advantages to dominate any WW out there but he's not got the smarts to stay on the outside.
I think he's got the smarts, we all see how he started off on the outside, I just think the body shots were taking there toll and he got a little tired from the combo of so many punches he was throwing and all the body shots he was taking.
I can't Say PWill was hugging for the majority of the fight, Margarito was doing a lot of holding too, I know I'm not the only one who saw him locking up PWill's arm on a couple of occassions only to see the ref warn Paul, but I think a lot of this was picked up from BHop, watch him fight, he will throw then hug to break up his opponents rythm and not allow a counter, I'm not a fan of it but it's pretty smart actually even if you don't like it.
but lets face it if you where hurt will you clinch espicalyl i you where hurt and tired? and dont give me some crappy answer that i will hit harder or something.
clinching is annoying to watch but it effective startgey to win and get time to rest and recover. but before a person clinchs the other guy should have puinsh him with bodyshots as much and hard as he cant.
exactly! that's something I don't think younger boxers do, if the ref hasn't broken yall up that means "fight to get out" ,whatever happend to refs saying that anyway? But BHop is a perfect example he throws shots to the body when he's clinched up, you never see him just sitting there, that is how you gradually wear your opponent down like he did to Taylor in their first fight and Trinidad, you could see Tito was shocked and got a little pissed that Bhop was throwing shots when they where locked up, like he was suppose to chill out and wait for the ref to break them up.
Yes he did throw 1200 or whatever punches ( I didnt keep count) but why is that? If Margarito wouldnt be to busy being tied up maybe he would have threw more punches.
it's like we watched two different fights...can you honestly tell me after the ref warned PWill in the corner that Margarito wasn't doing the majority of the hugging from then on? go back and look at how many times Margarito clinched PWills arm under his, yet Williams gets the warnings and stern talking to by the ref, wtf was that?...Arum trying to take a page out of the Lou Dibella "how to buy a fight" book?
id rather see cotto cintron but at the same time both of em are relatively young so id rather see cotto mosley based on mosleys age alone
Yea I think Mosley only has a couple of good fights left in him with his age
Holy shit man, Cintron would implode Hatton's face with that right
LMMFAO!!!!!!! yea I don't think Hatton wants any of that 147, he looked terrible against Collazo no way he could bring that kind of performance against any of the top WW's.
look at it like this, Arum is pissed because PWill fucked up his money, a fight between Margarito and Cotto was win win for him because he promotes both of them so that's nothing but money in the bank, but now he's just going to have Cotto fight Mosley and split the money with his newest best friend Oscar, that way if Cotto looses he can always go back and fight PWill to try and get Cotto a belt back, but if Cotto fights PWill now and looses what is the incentive for Cotto to fight Mosley then? there will be no belt at stake, and the public would rather see a PWill - Mosley match, as Cotto will be on the back of everybody's mind.
williams doesnt hug normally but ti think he feared margaritos power so much that he had no choice. i think its a cowardly way to fight. almost as bad as running the whole fight which he also did.
How did he run? I saw him go toe to toe with your boy a couple of times sometimes getting the better of him, somebody has to come forward and somebody has to backup, and I actually saw a lot of circling and jabbing by PWill instead of what you call running, if two people are just going to stand there and slug it out then they might as well take their ass to contender, because no professional boxer in their right mind is just going to stand there and trade shots all day.
What a surprise... Arum was setting us up for the duck weeks ago. Williams is the NEW most feared man in boxing...
lmao, funny, but from a business standpoint I can kinda see where he is coming from, "take the big money with SSM - Cotto, let PWill fight some more fights to get his name out there, maybe a Margarito rematch , which seems more likely given the breaking news and lack of an opponent unless he fights Cintron, or something with the winner of Hatton - Mayweather", meanwhile he's banking on Cotto to win against SSM to set up a bigmoney fight with either Hatton or Mayweather, and then after that if Cotto looses he's already a megastar so it won't matter but also keeping hope that PWill retains his title so that Cotto can fight him for the title setting up another PPV spectacular staring Miguel Cotto....but then again I'm high so this is all speculation:439: