Lost 3 times actually. None were debatable, sorry.
I don't give credit for who a fighter has faced. I just don't do that, that sounds pitiful to me. It's who they have beaten.
I don't give pity rounds, I don't give pity credit. Sounds to me like Carl Froch is a special ed student who is getting praised for the smallest things he does.
I went from hating Froch, to praising Froch for beating Bute, to now I don't even want to see a thread about him because he's being too overrated. I mean posts like yours, and all of the other posts in this thread is what makes me go against a fighter. "He fights every body", so what? Sounds like he's getting a pat on the head. Just name his wins and move on. I know who he's fought.
So you go against a fighter, because some people who you don't know make some comments on a forum that you don't agree with? Froch TKO's Bute and you praise him, but because some people got over excited you go against him? I don't understand the logic in that. If you are sick of the Froch appreciation threads then don't read them.
It would put it right up the americans to have Ricky Hatton as p4p king! I get so pissed when I read these forums, people just slagging off Ricky Hatton and saying he doesn't stand a chance against PBF.
I hope Ricky can beat him, and then I will be straight onto this forum to listen to the sorry excuses. I can picture it now - "PBF took him too lightly" or "Well.....PBF was retired, so Ricky beat a retired fighter".
I get sick of hearing how Castillo was shot, and past his best, and so was Tszyu. I dont believe that, but even if its true - so what? The fact is, Ricky HATES PBF and he will be in the best shape of his life. he will be relentless, Im not stupid enough to say Ricky is definitely going to win, but I know that it will be a good fight and Floyd Mayweather will get the shock of his life with the onslaught and physical bullying. It may not be pretty, but if he can bully PBF then he wont give him a chance to catch his breath.
As I say, Im not saying Ricky WILL win, but Im just posting cos Im sick of americans who hate the Brits, and who have their cocks so far up floyd mayweathers arse its not funny. He's not invincible, and I for one hope Ricky proves it and shuts everyone up once and for all.
Mayweather in Decision...easy....no one is gonna be able to beat him from Britian.....I think the winner of Cotto-Mosley would have the best chance to beat PBF...
"no one is gonna be able to beat him from Britian" - lol, good argument
"cause in britain moving is a bad thing like during the revolutionary war the stupid british soldiers stood in the middle of a field and fired their guns while the smart americans hid behind stuff and just picked them off. my best analogy ever!"
You're a fucking retard. This forum is supposed to be about boxing, so why bring up war - obviously a subject you have no knowledge of? The americans "hid behind stuff and picked them off" -haha. You fucking moron.
hatton= limited skills
cotto= not quick enough
marg= too slow
williams= open and becomes sloppy, but still may have chance. can prove very difficult as floyd will prob have to change his style
for me the only guy that can beat him is shane mosley. still very quick with fast hands, power, skills and is very tough. he has everything you need to beat mayweather.
"Hatton = Limited skills"
Ricky Hatton does not have limited skills. He fights the way he likes, in your face, pressure, as far as 'skills' go, he's underrated.
He would push mayweather all the way - I dont know why mayweather has this unbeatable reputation - he is very good in defence but if you have Ricky Hatton in your face constantly (which he would be) you will always struggle. How can you get away from someone who is constantly in your face, hitting with hard body shots every time you lift your elbows to hit him? Yes, mayweather is brilliant in defence and counter attack, but hatton would have him on the back foot every second of every round. It will be De La Hoya x10 for 12 rounds.
And, I know that Hatton HATES floyd mayweather with a passion, he would be like a man possessed and he will finally shut up all of the doubters. I just hope mayweather has the balls to face him.
LOL, LMAO, ROFL.
What if the post wasn't there....
LOL, LOL, LOL
Hatton got beat, he was knocked out by the best p4p fighter in the world.
Is there really any shame in that?
Hatton was exposed as the overhyped club fighter he really is. Not only was he dominated by Mayweather, but he was even knocked out by a guy who supposedly had no power. That KO will go down as one of the greatest knockouts in the history of the sport and it's proof that Hatton has no chin. The beating he took from light hitting Collazo was no fluke.
The fact is that there is a reason it took Hatton nearly 40 handpicked fights of waiting and waiting for the perfect opportunity to fight a world champion for a title. That opportunity came when Kostya Tszyu was old, coming off major injuries, and they were able to secure the fight on Hatton's home turf. The handpicking continued after Hatton beat Tszyu as he handpicked the worst titleholders he could find such as Maussa (probably the worst titleholder ever at 140), Collazo (worst of the 147 champions and a fringe contender at best who was dominated by Mosley), and Urango (still an untested prospect and the worst titleholder at 140 when Hatton fought him).
Hatton's team is smart for protecting him for so long and milking his fans until they got a huge payday. Now that Hatton has been exposed he can either retire or continue his losing ways whenever he fights a decent fighter. The guy was a flat out overrated, overhyped British bum like every other British fighter in boxing history.
We are done exposing one British bum. Bring on Joke Calzaghe and old ass Bernard Hopkins will take his zero too if he has the balls to leave the UK for a real challenge.
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Getting knocked out by the best p4p fighter in the world makes ricky hatton a joke?
What does that make you?
floyd gave castillo a rematch and dominated the fight.y has hatton never given collazo a rematch?
Not too sure what you are trying to prove by asking this question.....
Hatton hasn't given collazo a rematch at 147.
He is fighting the best p4p fighter in the world at 147.
I think you were trying to suggest Hatton is a pussy for not having a rematch with Collazo? Yet he is fighting Mayweather at 147? Surely that is a more dangerous fight than another UD against Collazo?
For the most part, Hatton laughed and shrugged off Floyd's claims,taunts, and insults, but I thought I saw him grow very angry when Floyd said he was the G.O.A.T. and he disrespected Ali and Sugar Ray.
Who knows, maybe Floyd hasen't gotten Hatton angry, but I highly doubt it.
I dont think the press conferences got ricky angry too much, I think he expected it and laughed it off.
What I dont doubt, is that ricky hates mayweather - but I dont think the press conferences have caused that.
What if Hatton beats Mayweather and does it impressively?
If that happens, then you can imagine the responses.
"He didn't take the fight seriously"
"He was training part time"
"He was too busy with dancing with the stars"
"In the rematch, he'll train properly and KTFO Hatton"
I could go on all day.....
That's still significantly more punches per round than Mayweather throws in his most active fights, and these were Hatton's worst performances.
In any case I think I'm pretty fair when it comes to assessing Floyd's ability. I know that not everyone is, but I'm more fair in assessing Floyd than you are in assessing Hatton. You acknowledged that Hatton has ability in only one thread ever. Every other comment you have made is geared to discrediting him.
In my personal experience, its not even worth arguing with Dios, squealpiggy. He'll either misquote you, or call you a name like a "sissy" or "limey" when he knows he's beat. Then he'll try to wager bets, or resort to "facts" about past mayweather fights, and try to drown you in his boxing knowledge. In fact, Im expecting a sarcastic reply to this post (which I'll ignore).
Just try to ignore his rants, cos he'll make sure you NEVER get the last word.
Im sick of people constantly going back to that 12th round for ricky against collazo.
Yes he was tired, and out on his feet, for some of the round.
The FACT is that he got through the round and won the fight.
Ricky had 5 WEEKS notice for the change in opponent, and put the weight on in the wrong way.
It was a bad round, and an even worse fight for Ricky Hatton. He wont make the same mistake against floyd - argument over.
I dont post much on here (but I often visit and read other posts), I had a little bit of banter with Samurai before the pac v hatton fight... I was SURE of a hatton win and I was waging a bet against another poster who didn't have the points to bet, so Samurai donated the points to him so we could bet and "sig it" lol.
I didn't know him personally, but from the small banter I had with him he sounded like a sound and cool guy... RIP Samurai, my thoughts go out to his family and friends
trouble is, if he fights maidana, and doesn't get hit at all by a big punch and completely outboxes him, there'll still be a question mark there.
He should do a mayorga - stand there and point his chin out :rofl:
Yeah I totally agree, the only way he's going to put this to bed is to get tagged hard, maybe even wobbled then see what he's made of at this weight.
Lol not to say he needs to do it on purpose.. It will happen though sooner or later we will find out what his chin is like at this weight.
Maybe get in there with Maidana, drop his hands and go toe to toe...lol that will make or break the chinny reputation :boxing:
I'm not sure about khans chin, I don't think anyone can know for sure (including khan and roach) until he gets tagged by a genuinely big puncher at 140.
Khan and Roach are making the right noises, Khan himself said recently in an interview that if people think he's chinny then they should step up and try to knock him out. The only problem is that picking fights like Malignaggi or chasing older lighter fighters like Marquez instead of facing the big fighters in your weight division doesn't really back up their apparent belief.
Ultimately nobody will know until he's in there with a puncher again.. Like the previous poster said, Cotto was wobbled a few times at 140 but looks a lot stronger at 147 when he hasn't got to drain to make weight. Maybe Amir Khan is the same. I hope Khan backs up his apparent belief in his chin and steps up to take a risk, that's the only way he's going to put his "chinny" reputation to bed
If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton?
Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances.
An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand.
What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. Malignaggi's right hand was rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove anything that night, fighting a 1 handed fighter that night he should have stopped him even earlier. A fighter with only 1 hand is like a novice fighter easy picking really he should have downed him even earlier in my opinion, while Manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes.
I think he hasn't improved at all even with Mayweather senior on board. His face is to exposed when charging in against Paulie. Not good if his fighting a two handed fighter that can box and brawl like Pacman. Compare pacs last 3 fights with hatton's. There's just no comparison really. I believe Ricky's skills are the same kinda think its stagnant.:boxing:
After round 2, Malignaggi didn't want to be in the ring. He held onto Hatton, ducked, grabbed his legs and basically avoided fighting.
Even Malignaggi admitted that he was embarassed about how much he grabbed and held Hatton.
That is the ONLY reason why Hatton did not stop him earlier in the fight.
Hatton stops Pacquiao in 8 rounds, if not earlier. My only real decision is whether I choose round 8 or earlier for my bet.
I know I will be shot down for saying this, but I can see it happening.
Pacquiao beats a weight drained DLH and everyone goes crazy. ANYONE can see that DLH was not right in that fight. Pacquiao was landing 2,3,4 shot combinations at will, all night. Before that fight, I remember people saying that 140 was a huge step for pac and that hatton would be too much.
The De la Hoya fight proved nothing in my eyes, other than De la Hoya has no business at 147, or he is shot. Remember that DLH wasn't brilliant against Steve Forbes either.
Hatton ties him up, roughs him up and actually HITS pacquiao (De la Hoya didn't).
Hatton stops him.
This is another one of those posts which assumes that anyone tipping Pacquiao to win only started taking notice of him since December 2008.
It's not true.
We are not all n00bz, so there's no need to tar us with the same brush.
No, not at all.
I would never assume that everyone tipping pac only started taking notice of Pacquiao after december 2008. I hope I didn't come across like that, although reading my post I might have.
A lot of people on here have a LOT of boxing knowledge - a lot more than me.
However, there are some people who will be blinded by the DLH fight.
Just stating my opinion - no offense intended.
lol. no worries, even if hatton doesn't ko pacquiao as long as he wins, u get the 3k. there was no point in asking.. haha!
No mate, I'll go with my original prediction!
If Hatton stops (KO or TKO) Pacquiao - I win.
If it goes the distance (even if hatton wins on points) - You win.
If Pacquiao wins (KO, TKO or points) - You win.
As I say, I stated that I really believe Hatton will stop Pac - so I'll put my points where my mouth is!
:haha: are you saying that all the boxing pundits and experts who are praising the PACMAN for his win against dela hoya are "blinded" and that you are better than them because you are not "blinded" by that win?. this guy is full of himself, such a high standard for boxing greatness lolz :rofl: . in the greater scheme of things the boxing experts are the ones judging fighters capabilities not some posters who's not "blinded" by what many considered a great win for one of the best boxers to lace them gloves up.
WTF??
Did you read my post? I said SOME people are blinded by Pacquiao's performance. NOT "All the boxing pundits and experts".
I am not full of myself, I do not have such high standards for boxing greatness, nor do I deny that De la Hoya is one of the best fighters "to lace them gloves up".
However, what I do think is that DLH is way past prime and royaly ****ed up his weight and drained himself.
It was a good win... not a great win.
De la Hoya was barely competitive, anyone who watched the fight will agree.
You dont agree?
i dont care what u believe in and i respect what ur saying, SO, are u confident enough to bet points that hatton cant stop pacquiao with me?
Yeah I'll bet points with you, i'll bet all my points. Not a problem.
Calzaghe has had the insults for a long time, from a lot of fighters.
So Kessler is not impressed by Calzaghe? That doesn't mean much really.
Didn't Lacy say that Calzaghe "slaps"?
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Who the fuck are you to state what somebody meant? Are you the official Kell Brook Public Relations Representative or just some dick-head, butt-hurt about every little jab your favorite boxer receives ..... Some of you guys must have pretty pathetic lives, that you have to tightly hug the nuts of someone who doesn't even know you're alive.
Haha sunny31 is right. It's clear what Kell meant, it's one of those fights where you change your mind about the winner. I don't understand how that could be misconstrued
Cotto wouldn't move down to 140 again, and even as a massive Hatton fan I can honestly say that Hatton has NO business with any of the top 147 fighters, definitely not Cotto.
I watch this forum a lot, I don't often post anymore because I cannot be bothered with the keyboard warriors and nuthuggers who start an argument with every single point anyone tries to make... anyway here goes :-)
I don't see why people find this so hard to understand.
The more this fight is hyped, the more money it makes. David Haye is not afraid of the Klitschko brothers. However, the longer he puts off the fight, the more money he makes. It is simple. If he wants to retire in 1 year, and start an acting career or whatever bull**** he has said, then he needs to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. I don't pretend to understand contracts and finances.. but if David Haye can make a few million by getting in the ring with Audley Harrison then fair enough. Well done, take the money. He's got a family and a future to look after.
We can go on and on about the whole contract saga, and the fact that Haye signed a worse deal then pulled out. Setanta Sports went under at the same time, maybe that had a big influence on the fight being pulled. Who knows?
After Haye takes care of Audley, then he says he will fight a Klitschko. The fight will make more money PPV than it would of 2 years ago. Why? Because the fight with Audley will make the non-boxing fan British public sit up and take notice. It's being billed as a personal "best of enemies" fight in the UK and people buy that. After this fight there will be a hell of a lot more people interested in Haye v klitschko. Simple. I wouldn't be suprised if this whole thing is a marketing masterplan and both parties are involved. If after this fight, the haye klitschko fight can't be made, then that would be a tragedy because it really is an exciting heavyweight clash. The first one in years.
Anyway.. lets hope Audley doesn't catch Haye with a big left hand lol
OK, maybe I took it the wrong way. To be honest, we've seen a lot of posts saying "all you guys going crazy about Pac just because he beat over-rated Diaz and a drained Oscar are idiots", etc. I thought yours might be one of those. :)
For what it's worth, I've been a Pacquiao fan since 2003 and never once bet against him.
No offense taken, btw.
No problem - will be good to see what happens in this fight, I cant wait :boxing: