I doubt this Peterson is a dog and is tall..I say he gives Khan a hard time..We will never see this fight to dangerous for Con...Judah would not beat Peterson which is why he is fighting Matthyse,Peterson would be a better opponent for Judah being the fact he fought Bradley..Ortiz IMO beats them all...
Lol QUITor Ortiz beats them all??? LMAO!!!!!! Maidana was enough for that quitter!!! Quitor Ortiz got no heart and showed his true colours in the maidana ortiz post interview!!!!
Your comment makes no sense. I never said that. Give any reason you want. Obviously it's your decision whether you think he's a great trainer or not. Nobody has given me an example of a fight that makes him a great trainer.
What I said before was not "making up the rules". That's just the reality. You can't beat a guy who was KO'd 2 fights before and say the trainer deserves loads of credit. The reason I keep having to come back to the KO argument is that Roach hasnt really steered any fighter to a great win. The best wins he's experienced came against damaged opposition.
Barrera was a win I give him and Pacquiao credit for. But Junior Jones also beat Barrera twice before Pacquiao beat him aswell. And he wasnt considered a great fighter with a great trainer.
What fight specifically makes Roach great? I'm yet to hear one.
Come Dec.11th and I will tell you the specific fight
maidana finnaly gets the opportunity he's been wanting for over a year and hes asking for big bucks to cash out because he knows hes gonna lose and only has a punchers chance in this fight. has your respect gone up for maidana or down?
The khan haters will ignore this fact, and if the fight falls through (which I hope it doesn't) the haters will find any excuse to blame it all on khan. Fact.
"Haters will always hate and fighters will never get credit where it's due"
this shirt says it all.
http://pacquiaovsmarquez.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Marquez-beat-Pacquiao-twice.jpg
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lol , what a way to sum it up.
you gave marquez the 1st round? he landed one punch
which fight were you watching?:nonono: Maybe if you and others disputing my first round scoring would mute the volume to not get caught up in the hype and commentators, would see marquez landed the more telling blows especially straight right hands, and countered effectively, anyway this is my view.
I had Pac winning this fight by one point, KD made the difference. What most people don't realize is how dominant Marquez was in the 8th round, this was as close to seeing Pac stopped as any of us have ever seen (not counting Singsurat and Torrecampo).
Oh yess definately, having watched it today after a long time, i also realised this and was like this dudes getting smashed like it could have been over. However pac came back with a big 10th round close to knocking Marquez out again.
You think the Pac camp would legitimately entertain 140?....because I sure as hell KNOW they won't.
The only weight i see it happening is 147lb, or no fight.
if you scored the first round for marquez then you might as well not score the rest because you already fukked up beyond repair.
How is it beyond repair, i feel he landed the more effective punches and i was judging based on effective counter punching. Just get the heck out of my thread for being ignorant, go post on someone elses.
Just checked and it's working for me fine.
why do i get the message i posted above? is there something wrong with my account, have i done something wrong?
Yeah, only total pimps are allowed into the video trading block section. You're obviously not pimpish enough!
well i've had access to it ever since i craeted my account in 2009, hell i was even able to access it an hour ago, its just happened now.
I get this message
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The concept of martinez putting his hands low
First of all he fights with his hands too low and gets hit a lot, second IMO he does not have a great chin. PWilliams knockd him down and Williams is not known to be a real heavy puncher, He has been rocked by Pavlik and Dzinzurik. I believe Krikland and Angulo have a good chance of beating him because of their great chins and tremendous knock out power, especially Kirkland!! Martinez has not been tested by anyone like those two guys!!! Im not hating, IMO Martinez should be P4P #2 right under Pacquiao, im just expressing my opinion on what I believe will be his down fall!!!!!!!
Once Martinez has found his range against the opponent and knows at which distance the opponent cannot hit him, he will keep his hands low.
The benefits to martinez for keeping his hands low are:
1 ) Balance! It is easier for him to move swiftly with his hands closer to his waist level than in front of his face.
2 ) Going to the body.
3 ) Landing the counter hook.
4 ) Protecting against body shots.
5 ) Baiting the other fighter- this helped martinez get first knockdown of dizinziruk in round 8
6 ) Creating a clinch.
7 ) Conserving energy.
its an intriguing fight mo. You have two big punchers with speed, and both dont have good defence. We've seen berto hurt before and his chin is weak, imo if ortiz lands flush it could be lights out. However, berto is faster, undefeated and doesnt know how to loose. Im taking berto in this one.
Can't fight everyone at once. Again, in his first 4 fights after Hatton, he took out all the guys that were ranked 1-4 at the time he began his campaign, with Margarito being given 3 extra lbs to work with (17 lb weight advantage in the ring, on top of height/reach mismatch), so whining about Cotto losing 1 lb is moot.
Now that's what a hit list looks like :lol1:
Do you not understand the sport? size doesn't win matches SKILL DOES. Margarito was flat footed, come forward, no defence fighter, and since the devastating mosley loss, his punch output has also decreased, so was not the same ruthless volume puncher he once was. Pac had all the necessary tools to win against the very vulnerable maragrito. REMEMBER skills win matches not size.
Only some of the retarded Pacquiao stans think Margarito can beat Martinez because they want to make Pacquiao's win over Margarito seem like something extremely great and unprecedented.
So no there are no real fight fans that really believe Margarito can beat Martinez again.
mosleys win over margarito> pacquiao win over margarito.
actually brawlers would be a field day for him, countering and ring movement all night.
a smart pressure fighter that can force him to fight on the inside would give him hell however. his stamina isnt the best around, and he doesnt seem to care much for infighting.
plus his age is against him now (36- how long can he continue for), so if you make him work every minute of the fight itcoul be trouble.