Great and fair post!
I agree with u. Im a Mexican-American, 2 of my favorite fighters are African American (Wilder & Ward) so I see a lot of hate from "certain" posters & it raises a big red flag to me. Bottomline is, as boxing fans we should all be dissappointed this fight is not happening. & in all reality theres only one person to blame, & thats Povetkin. Ive read a lot of people bring up weed comparing it to what Povetkin popped for (which is absurd imo) but lets be real, if Wilder popped for bud & Povetkin turned the fight down, itd be his right & we could only blame Wilder for us not getting to see the fight. So shame on Povetkin for screwing us on a good fight.
With that said, to add to what I originally brought up, theres a lot of hidden racism on these boards. The whites on here try n hide their bias which to me is b1tch made, if u are pro white just say it, i have respect for that, i even sent a green k to a poster for saying he supports white boxers cuz they look like him bcuz thats being real. But to white dudes defense society makes whites have to hide their Aryan pride.
On the otherhand theres a lot of pro black posters on here that believe racism in boxing only exist against blacks which is laughable. The ones that really get me are the ones that claim to be boxing fans and have a list of all favorite black fighters with maybe 1 afro-cuban lol but they boxing fans doe & they jump on any anti Haymon thread "backing boxing" but would love to see gbp & tr fail but they boxing fans doe. Than to the brothas defense they have a right to be defensive because they do get forced into an un-necessary roll in boxing & they are underappreciated for that at least til they retire or die.
Than u have the Latino posters on here that are a lil more blatant with their predjudices but to me it makes "us" sound like jealous ass haters. The ones that believe theres only one way to box kills me, its like leave that macho ass crap in the streets, this is a freaken sport where athleticism prevails 9x's out of 10. But to the Latinos defense, the reason why (aside from Floyd) they are revered is because they do put on good shows & make nice purses because they do so.
& id touch on the Asian fans but since #ko6 & #49 they had enough grief & humble pie so ilm leave dem alone lol!
& if anyone took offense to this idgaf. U all know deep down its real talk.
I like your post! You've have made a fan!
Great and fair post!
I agree with u. Im a Mexican-American, 2 of my favorite fighters are African American (Wilder & Ward) so I see a lot of hate from "certain" posters & it raises a big red flag to me. Bottomline is, as boxing fans we should all be dissappointed this fight is not happening. & in all reality theres only one person to blame, & thats Povetkin. Ive read a lot of people bring up weed comparing it to what Povetkin popped for (which is absurd imo) but lets be real, if Wilder popped for bud & Povetkin turned the fight down, itd be his right & we could only blame Wilder for us not getting to see the fight. So shame on Povetkin for screwing us on a good fight.
With that said, to add to what I originally brought up, theres a lot of hidden racism on these boards. The whites on here try n hide their bias which to me is b1tch made, if u are pro white just say it, i have respect for that, i even sent a green k to a poster for saying he supports white boxers cuz they look like him bcuz thats being real. But to white dudes defense society makes whites have to hide their Aryan pride.
On the otherhand theres a lot of pro black posters on here that believe racism in boxing only exist against blacks which is laughable. The ones that really get me are the ones that claim to be boxing fans and have a list of all favorite black fighters with maybe 1 afro-cuban lol but they boxing fans doe & they jump on any anti Haymon thread "backing boxing" but would love to see gbp & tr fail but they boxing fans doe. Than to the brothas defense they have a right to be defensive because they do get forced into an un-necessary roll in boxing & they are underappreciated for that at least til they retire or die.
Than u have the Latino posters on here that are a lil more blatant with their predjudices but to me it makes "us" sound like jealous ass haters. The ones that believe theres only one way to box kills me, its like leave that macho ass crap in the streets, this is a freaken sport where athleticism prevails 9x's out of 10. But to the Latinos defense, the reason why (aside from Floyd) they are revered is because they do put on good shows & make nice purses because they do so.
& id touch on the Asian fans but since #ko6 & #49 they had enough grief & humble pie so ilm leave dem alone lol!
& if anyone took offense to this idgaf. U all know deep down its real talk.
This was a fair post! You've made me a fan!
99%
He has an entire country which has a population of 100 million people filled with blind nationalist followers + millions more Filipinos in diaspora in the U.S. Canada, Australia & Europe who support him solely based on ethnic nationalism, and fervently & unrelentlessly troll the internet all day long in his honor. Which would heavily skew how he's REALLY thought of by your average Non-Filipino boxing fan.
The 1% of Pac fans who aren't Filipinos are talking head sports/boxing media sensationalists, combined with casual boxing fans who are easily susceptible to media hype.
That was so eloquently elucidated!
Selective memory?
Ward has superior boxing skills, but once he tastes that power I think he will get K.O'd.
I saw some bum come close to K.O'ing ward in like his 10th fight. Dropped him twice, ref had to save him. If bute lands anything it will be easy K.O
Bute is a breath of freshair in the SMW division
Kessler: probably not gonna box again
ward: overrated, boring
froch: boring, ugly, dumb
pavlik: past it, alcoholic
You do have a selective memory. You seems to forget that Bute was saved by that Canadian referee in the first fight with Andrade.
Glad you enjoyed.
Every once in awhile, we all need to really discuss the sport. In a Pactard-free environment.
I have really enjoyed the time that I took to read each and every post, especially yours. I was very nice to discuss boxing in a mostly civilized manner. Kudos to all posters!
If they managed to sanction Lewis vs Tyson in 2002 - Tyson being Zoloft-addicted at that time, and Lennox pathetically keeps bragging about that win to this day - they can sanction whatever they want now.
That fight was a shameful blot on Lewis' career. He looked so pathetic strutting around the ring as though he had beaten a prime Tyson.
im half korean half white u have convinced me, im off to start boxing training and mma, see u in a few years when i am champ, i will come back here and post, promise
I'm dying here!
What's more interesting to me is this idea that Dillian Whyte is somehow the most legit opponent other than Joshua. He's just another middling contender. Him and Breazeale need to get it on.
Rightfully said.
:yeah:Does it matter? Popularity don't win fights
BOTH get hate, boxing fans are extremely NEGATIVE and here is proof of that...name a fighter who you can honestly same majority of boxing fans actually like...You Can't because they all get bashed by somebody regardless if it is Social Media or on this Weirdo Forum that has been infested and ruined by mental ill trolls
:biggthump:yeah:
Unfortunately this guy goes to sleep anywhere....
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This **** is funny. Lmao!
Pure joy. Somewhere an innocent lady in her 50's is feeling a little bit better about what happened to the man who hit her in the face and took her purse. Broner is scum and got what was coming to him. I look forward with great joy to his next beating.
I was so happy when Senor Marcus humbled that despicable scum who is a blight to all black people. I have been on foreign boxing blogs and the hate that African-Americans receive by people who have never seen a black man outside of their tv because of that Kunt's behavior. Thank you Senor Marcus, thank you!
Robinson was the same weight as Mayweather at 19.
You are one the idiots on here that makes most boxing fans seem dumb! Was Mayweather the same weight as Robinson at the age of 19?
I got to go with Castillo who has the better resume at lightweight. Shane Mosley better days was at welterweight. Mosley would gas bad at lightweight and if he didn't well thats probably when he was on the peds.
Castillo beat Floyd and regardless what people say about there 2nd fight its was another close fight with Floyd doing the running man for 12 rounds.
Castillo was a beast in his prime.
While I respect everyone's opinion on here, you always posts dumb ****! I am sure that you are a 14yr old that started watching boxing because of Pac. Shane was almost unbeatable at lightweight at lightweight.
Ortiz is truly stupid, one of the biggest idiots I've seen in boxing, but threatening to take away his license just for talking sh1t is really idiotic.
I think that Amir Khan comes across as more retarded than Victor!
Bute wins!
How will this fight play out?
If Bute has recovered from the shellacking that he received from Froch, then it's Bute by decision. Pascal's stamina is his Achilles' heel. His fight with Froch and Hopkins is a good example and it almost cost him vs Dawson. If Dawson had been more assertive, he could have stopped Pascal.
That's what you think!
The gravy train will end
Did you know that Roger, whilst training Floyd, was still living off his investments from his fighting days? Roger is a very frugal guy!
Juan Manuel Marquez cannot fight going forward, he sucks with pressing fights, he also never blocks punches he only has one mode to constantly back up and fight with the matador style using three punch combos to keep you back, he never clinches either. Just side step three punch counter.
Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales had more dimensions than Marquez.
Pacman is called a one dimensional boxer because he had tough fights with Marquez. Well Pacman is the Bull to Marquez Matador, just because one fighter has someones number doesn't mean that fighter is one dimensional.
Marquez had trouble with slick black fighters like Floyd and Bradley, Pacman beat Bradley and this was a half interested pacman who wasn't even top shape. Pacman was able to compete with the speed of Bradley and not get hit either people keep saying pacman has no defense but he looked pretty good in that fight and he wasn't even trying. Pacman has the basic Flaws like lunging, and dropping his hands, but he still has more tricks and ways to fight opponents than Marquez does. All Marquez can do is hope for a super aggressive guy so he can counter punch him while stepping back.
Ruslan did better than Marquez because in order to have a shot with Bradley you have to apply pressure with him, does that mean Ruslan is better than Marquez? nope but they are both one dimensional guys, Ruslan only can press a fight, he can't box circles or counter off the back foot, just like JMM cannot pressure fight he can only box off the back foot.
Pacman is not a shoulder roll slickster but he has shown more dimensions than Marquez, the racist Floyd fans like to point out that pacman stumbles and lunges once in a while, and never give credit to his unorthodox moves but he has shown that he can box and brawl and pressure fight and box off the back foot.
Pacman boxed circles around David Diaz and Oscar, he out brawled Margarito and boxed him on the back foot with counter punches. I have only seen Marquez box off the back foot and never seen him pressure fight.
Pacmans Attention Deficit Disorder and super furious style, it makes him abandon a patient game plan and this is how he loses but he has show he can be patient like when he fought Oscar, he boxed him beautifully.
Great analysis and excellent post!
Great post!
It's an older article but for those who haven't seen it. It's a good read...if you aren't interested in reading then don't.
the rest of the article here along with a good Erislandy Lara article.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8016473/guillermo-rigondeaux-lonely-success-story
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles-frontpage/15546-erislandy-lara-was-born-to-fight
Thank you for this post; I greatly enjoyed it!
:omfg:the real question should be, "Can pasawayako afford netcafe time without servicing American sailors in the alley?"
Using up all his funds! I wonder where this lady-boy pimp is?
Mosely's kryptonite!
Neither fighter had great movement and was quick. People keep saying mosley has trouble with those type of fighters but i cant remember one fighter that was fast and moved a lot. cotto ran alot but mosley lost to all those fighters becuz of the jab, not cuz they was fast. the fastest fighter mosley probably faced was prime dela hoya and he won that fight.
That is so true about the jab being Mosley's kryptonite. I remember after the fight with Mosley, Forrest said:"the best way to beat a fast fighter is with the jab".
His is a f@@king idiot.
Dumbs ****? I'm an under 30 black guy from Detroit, with multiple six figure salary job offers (closer to 250k than 100k) who is wrapping up a jd/mba from a top ten school in the U.S. The last thing anybody could call me is dumb lol
Guys like you on this site spend too much time insulting people and complaining about **** that has no material impact on your life. It makes little sense. Boxing is the only sport that has all these bitter/resentful fans.
I've been around boxing since I was born (Kronk gym heads). I don't need validation from you buddy. I bought the fight because I have the money. I also watched the Cotto fight because I have an extra screen to enjoy. I support this sport on all fronts. Regardless of race, promoter, or matchup. What I'm not going to do is spend my time complaining about a fight that any objective fan could see was going to happen anyway. I know what I saw, but that doesn't mean people weren't happy with the product.
Bravo! These type of idiots really pisses me off.
Dumb ass
your boxer malignaggi is the real drug user.....try to observe his face espicially in his eyes. malignaggi just want a piece of pie to manny, thats why his big mouth keep on making a trash talks..... i wonder if he is a black men, he acts like he is just like the mayweathers camp they have big mouths...
Some of you Pactards are the most ignorant and racist posters on here. I will not reply in kind because not all pinoys are like you, dumb ass.
hahaha...By that line i knew i was talking to an idiot.
Hey... Floyd was a champ @140. Let's make a fight against Broner at that weight. Using your logic of course. lol...Fanboy!
"It was well-known in boxing circles that Corrales was struggling to make the weight for the Mayweather fight, even though he had brought a nutritionist on board to help him get down to the 9st 4lbs (130lbs) limit. Even then, Corrales needed to lose weight on the day of the fight and was still two pounds over the limit at a test weigh-in minutes before officially weighing in."
And if you read my comments, i'm not a hater. Just my honest opinion! and as you can see, my opinions are supported by facts.
Your asinine and inane postings on this site just reveals the level of your ****roach IQ!