This whole Povetkin Wilder situation is unbelievable! you see all these people here posting crazy stuff trying to defend Povetkin even though he tested positive just to see Wilder lose, it's as if they want the fight now even more that before after they found out the Povetkin has the juice advantage.
The messed up part about this whole story is the fact that almost all these people are actually American, so instead of them supporting their own fighter that's willing to go overseas to fight someone under one of the most corrupt commissions in boxing today and risking being robbed or drugged, they support the foreign guy that already has all the advantages and even go as far as supporting him testing positive! The guy clearly used the substance in late April since all the tests in MArch and early April came back negative.
This is not a drug testing problem, this is something far more messed up than that and everybody knows what I'm talking about here, American fans hate their own fighters and are the first ones to call them cheats and hyperjobs and they are usually the first ones to stop supporting their own fighters after they take a loss, but then these same people turn around and start b1tching about them not taking any risks. And to add insult to injury they give foreign fighters all kinds of passes.
They're trying to defend their bretheren...sadly in a way they think they're defending themselves because they share the same skin "color" as PEDvetkin a win by PEDvetkin by any means necessary is a moral vicory for "them" to feel superior mentally and physically but we know better...:lol1::lol1::lol1:
The fact that some people are still like this in 2016 is such a damn shame really!
He's going to get a gimme fight(maybe Stiverne rematch) and then fight Fury if he wins against Wlad again. I may be wrong. Pac and Floyd are so called retired, this is truly the time for the HW division to shine for the United States.
I hope so...Fury vs wilder would be huge. the real heavyweight champ crowned
Just about every thread created on this forum is fueled by racism, especially any thread about Mayweather. They use all kinds of plot devices to throw salt at him when the straight truth is they don't like him cause he's a Black American who talks the talk and walks the walk. They never had the pleasure and joy to see him defeated so he stays at the top of their hate list.
You know there is a lot of truth to this, but before you go there.
Mayweather for me personally is the greatest boxer of this generation (say last decade+). I respect his skills and his boxing ability, his business savvy. But I still don't like him as a person. It has nothing to do with him being black, he has little to no class, bad English and is not too bright outside of making money in boxing. If I made all the money he does, man I'd have university profs giving me personal lectures of different subjects every week. This man is worth over a hundred mill and he can't string an intelligent sentence together.
Now on the racist end of things, there is definitely a lot of truth to this, for which you can thank Connor McGreggor. He's basically a white Floyd persona wise yet people love him off.
Now I don't like that Connor for the very same reason I don't like Floyd.
I like humble athletes and humble people, those fighters I truly become a fan of, otherwise I just give them professional respect.
yea, the fight could have shut up both sides....the Wilder is ducking brigade and the Povetkin is washed up group.
I favored Wilder but Povetkin would have definitely showed us what Deontay is made of...too bad we wont see this fight
Who do you think he should go after? I think Joshua....the longer he waits, the better Joshua becomes. He has a lot of upside and I like his technique and punch variation for such a big guy.
He's going to get a gimme fight(maybe Stiverne rematch) and then fight Fury if he wins against Wlad again. I may be wrong. Pac and Floyd are so called retired, this is truly the time for the HW division to shine for the United States.
Just about every thread created on this forum is fueled by racism, especially any thread about Mayweather. They use all kinds of plot devices to throw salt at him when the straight truth is they don't like him cause he's a Black American who talks the talk and walks the walk. They never had the pleasure and joy to see him defeated so he stays at the top of their hate list.
you basically summed it up, all you have to do is go to the comment section on youtube, even on his tribute videos and its a bunch of racially charged mess that has nothing to do with his skills or boxing
A lot of people hate him because he talk the talk, walked the walk, and showed that you can be your own man, without a promoter and a lot of people are salty because he cashed out on his talent instead of be a puppet and uphold the old school boxing template. Boxers get pennies and brain damage while promoters get rich
public enemy number one to american media.....a)black b)independent and big bucks c) brash and confident d) undefeated and has not lost
they been trying to get an asterick by his name but too bad it hasnt happened
its ****ed up, but people can hide behind a keyboard without saying how they truly feel. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that people will ride with who they can relate to or looks like them.
A lot of white americans cling to the euro fighters. I think the last very good white champion we have was Kelly Pavlik. He could have been a hall of famer IMO had he had a run at 168/. they are good fighters over their but Most countries support their own. American fans look at race.
Its hard to be patriotic when you get love from other countries more than your own. P4P greats Like Hopkins, Ward, Roy Jones, Mayweather and others have all made it clear how they feel on the topic.
Just about every thread created on this forum is fueled by racism, especially any thread about Mayweather. They use all kinds of plot devices to throw salt at him when the straight truth is they don't like him cause he's a Black American who talks the talk and walks the walk. They never had the pleasure and joy to see him defeated so he stays at the top of their hate list.
Hi larry, do you have a source showing that Povetkin failed?
It's a "Fact" after all. Not some **** Dibella said on twitter.
Because the testing agencies consider Povetkin clean and just wanted time to re-test.
"Wada said in its briefing document that doping cases should be pursued in the case of athletes who admit having taken meldonium on or after 1 January, in cases where the concentration of the drug is above 15 micrograms per millilitre, or where the concentration is between 1 and 15 millilitres and the test was after 1 March.
The organisation said prosecution of meldonium cases could be “stayed” and provisional suspensions lifted if the concentration of the drug in the system was between 1 and 15 micrograms per millilitre and the test was carried out before 1st March, or if the level is below 1 microgram per millilitre and the doping control was conducted after 1st March."
Povetkin didn't fail?
So Mayweather failed a drug test, Wilder is responsible for Povetkin failing a drug test and lil g is a warrior and Ward is the coward. And people wonder what is wrong with boxing.
Thank you HBO, greasy face lil kim and cardiac dan this is the crazy world of boxing you have created.
Very few Americans are proud to be American. Instead they are proud to be Irish or Italian, or black, or Latino, or Asian, etc.
The land of the free and home of the brave aka the land of the thief and home of the slave
People identify with their ethnicity more than nation
This nation wasn't built on principles of freedom nor do they maintain ALL people's rights
What tests has Floyd failed?? and please dont post rumors..POST FACTS like ITS A FACT POVETKIN JUST FAILED!!!!
Hi larry, do you have a source showing that Povetkin failed?
It's a "Fact" after all. Not some **** Dibella said on twitter.
Because the testing agencies consider Povetkin clean and just wanted time to re-test.
"Wada said in its briefing document that doping cases should be pursued in the case of athletes who admit having taken meldonium on or after 1 January, in cases where the concentration of the drug is above 15 micrograms per millilitre, or where the concentration is between 1 and 15 millilitres and the test was after 1 March.
The organisation said prosecution of meldonium cases could be “stayed” and provisional suspensions lifted if the concentration of the drug in the system was between 1 and 15 micrograms per millilitre and the test was carried out before 1st March, or if the level is below 1 microgram per millilitre and the doping control was conducted after 1st March."
WADA considers Povetkin clean.
Wada said in its briefing document that doping cases should be pursued in the case of athletes who admit having taken meldonium on or after 1 January, in cases where the concentration of the drug is above 15 micrograms per millilitre, or where the concentration is between 1 and 15 millilitres and the test was after 1 March.
The organisation said prosecution of meldonium cases could be “stayed” and provisional suspensions lifted if the concentration of the drug in the system was between 1 and 15 micrograms per millilitre and the test was carried out before 1st March, or if the level is below 1 microgram per millilitre and the doping control was conducted after 1st March.
Wilder's team didn't want to wait for a re-test and saw an opening to tuck tail, run.
What tests has Floyd failed?? and please dont post rumors..POST FACTS like ITS A FACT POVETKIN JUST FAILED!!!!
It's a fact Floyd used tactics to mask the use of steroids and in this sport that is all we need to know that and Floyds 2005 body transformation to the current one.
Are you blind though come on to **** man its so damn obvious Floyd has been using the juice, he's been on more stuff than the likes of Povetkin but you all want to pretend he isn't :rofl:
Absolute hypocrites.
So you admit its okay for Floyd to have failed drug tests but its not okay for anyone else to?
Okay we see the agenda now.
What tests has Floyd failed?? and please dont post rumors..POST FACTS like ITS A FACT POVETKIN JUST FAILED!!!!
You are a pathetic human being.
So you admit its okay for Floyd to have failed drug tests but its not okay for anyone else to?
Okay we see the agenda now.
Great and fair post!
I agree with u. Im a Mexican-American, 2 of my favorite fighters are African American (Wilder & Ward) so I see a lot of hate from "certain" posters & it raises a big red flag to me. Bottomline is, as boxing fans we should all be dissappointed this fight is not happening. & in all reality theres only one person to blame, & thats Povetkin. Ive read a lot of people bring up weed comparing it to what Povetkin popped for (which is absurd imo) but lets be real, if Wilder popped for bud & Povetkin turned the fight down, itd be his right & we could only blame Wilder for us not getting to see the fight. So shame on Povetkin for screwing us on a good fight.
With that said, to add to what I originally brought up, theres a lot of hidden racism on these boards. The whites on here try n hide their bias which to me is b1tch made, if u are pro white just say it, i have respect for that, i even sent a green k to a poster for saying he supports white boxers cuz they look like him bcuz thats being real. But to white dudes defense society makes whites have to hide their Aryan pride.
On the otherhand theres a lot of pro black posters on here that believe racism in boxing only exist against blacks which is laughable. The ones that really get me are the ones that claim to be boxing fans and have a list of all favorite black fighters with maybe 1 afro-cuban lol but they boxing fans doe & they jump on any anti Haymon thread "backing boxing" but would love to see gbp & tr fail but they boxing fans doe. Than to the brothas defense they have a right to be defensive because they do get forced into an un-necessary roll in boxing & they are underappreciated for that at least til they retire or die.
Than u have the Latino posters on here that are a lil more blatant with their predjudices but to me it makes "us" sound like jealous ass haters. The ones that believe theres only one way to box kills me, its like leave that macho ass crap in the streets, this is a freaken sport where athleticism prevails 9x's out of 10. But to the Latinos defense, the reason why (aside from Floyd) they are revered is because they do put on good shows & make nice purses because they do so.
& id touch on the Asian fans but since #ko6 & #49 they had enough grief & humble pie so ilm leave dem alone lol!
& if anyone took offense to this idgaf. U all know deep down its real talk.
This was a fair post! You've made me a fan!
Great and fair post!
I agree with u. Im a Mexican-American, 2 of my favorite fighters are African American (Wilder & Ward) so I see a lot of hate from "certain" posters & it raises a big red flag to me. Bottomline is, as boxing fans we should all be dissappointed this fight is not happening. & in all reality theres only one person to blame, & thats Povetkin. Ive read a lot of people bring up weed comparing it to what Povetkin popped for (which is absurd imo) but lets be real, if Wilder popped for bud & Povetkin turned the fight down, itd be his right & we could only blame Wilder for us not getting to see the fight. So shame on Povetkin for screwing us on a good fight.
With that said, to add to what I originally brought up, theres a lot of hidden racism on these boards. The whites on here try n hide their bias which to me is b1tch made, if u are pro white just say it, i have respect for that, i even sent a green k to a poster for saying he supports white boxers cuz they look like him bcuz thats being real. But to white dudes defense society makes whites have to hide their Aryan pride.
On the otherhand theres a lot of pro black posters on here that believe racism in boxing only exist against blacks which is laughable. The ones that really get me are the ones that claim to be boxing fans and have a list of all favorite black fighters with maybe 1 afro-cuban lol but they boxing fans doe & they jump on any anti Haymon thread "backing boxing" but would love to see gbp & tr fail but they boxing fans doe. Than to the brothas defense they have a right to be defensive because they do get forced into an un-necessary roll in boxing & they are underappreciated for that at least til they retire or die.
Than u have the Latino posters on here that are a lil more blatant with their predjudices but to me it makes "us" sound like jealous ass haters. The ones that believe theres only one way to box kills me, its like leave that macho ass crap in the streets, this is a freaken sport where athleticism prevails 9x's out of 10. But to the Latinos defense, the reason why (aside from Floyd) they are revered is because they do put on good shows & make nice purses because they do so.
& id touch on the Asian fans but since #ko6 & #49 they had enough grief & humble pie so ilm leave dem alone lol!
& if anyone took offense to this idgaf. U all know deep down its real talk.
I like your post! You've have made a fan!
I remember Mark McGwire was taking it and I was into sports. Was in the gym almost every day and one of my friends recommended it to me. Yea cutting weight is a *****.
Bro this fight could of answered many questions with Wilder. Now we will have to wait even longer for those questions to be answered.
yea, the fight could have shut up both sides....the Wilder is ducking brigade and the Povetkin is washed up group.
I favored Wilder but Povetkin would have definitely showed us what Deontay is made of...too bad we wont see this fight
Who do you think he should go after? I think Joshua....the longer he waits, the better Joshua becomes. He has a lot of upside and I like his technique and punch variation for such a big guy.
Damn...I took diet pills for a week and stopped cause I felt like I was cheating. Wrestled at 140 and dropped to 135 the next year....i was only 6% fat before cutting weight...it sucked
andro/ripped fuel could be bought in a store....as far as acne or whatever, what even made you try the chemical?
I dont blame Wilder when he is in shape and can fight someone else soon and not waste a training camp. I'd be pissed training so hard and then not fight. Make povetkin wait and get another defense under the belt. I WAS SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FIGHT
I remember Mark McGwire was taking it and I was into sports. Was in the gym almost every day and one of my friends recommended it to me. Yea cutting weight is a *****.
Bro this fight could of answered many questions with Wilder. Now we will have to wait even longer for those questions to be answered.