Why are ya'll so against him and Joshua fighting for all the belts?? Why do ya'll keep saying he needs to fight some other boxer?? Joshua-Wilder is the fight to be made NOW!!!!! whats the issue here people?
"Genuine question, how are AJ and Wilder the universally recognised #1 and #2? "
I was on the fence even with some of your absurd posts , if you actually had a handle of the sport in general ?
But theres no doubt you dont now , you really cant come too the conclusion that the Wilder and Joshua winner isnt recognised as the number 1 HW ? :chairshot
Don't care about general consensus, you had AJ as the GOAT before Klitschko, that's how absurd you are!
If Fury comes back I'll pick him over Wilder, and Povetkin is better than Wilder, much more skillful, which you think is all that matters btw.
Yes you're RETARDED not retarted. :dunce:
Ok my favorite id1ot. Just keep bean counting until the fight makes sense to you. Never seen people so desperately scared of favorite fighter face some adversity.
Pathetic if you ask me when you have to look for every excuse in the book and you go with negotiations which you don't have any inside knowledge of.
I'd love to get the best possible fights now, but whining like a little girl when they don't happen make no sense.
Fact is, Wilder and AJ are not in a rush to fight. There are no good options left after that fight, and they're both in their prime and can afford to wait a year.
Why are ya'll so against him and Joshua fighting for all the belts?? Why do ya'll keep saying he needs to fight some other boxer?? Joshua-Wilder is the fight to be made NOW!!!!! whats the issue here people?
It’s only Joshua’s fans. They think that Joshua is the undisputed, lineal hvw champion of the world!
Klitchko was in 3 training camps and was training for Joshua in 2016 bc that WAS the original date . He was training for Fury before that , who Peter said was going to be more aggressive and said Tyson would have to train harder for that he couldn't win the same way.
Klitchko WAS favored to win the Fury rematch ,the notion he was done is lunacy and the Joshua fight PROVED that .
Wilder more dangerous than Klitchko who fought a less experienced Joshua ? Everyone knows Klitchko has always come back looking better .:bs2:
Klitschko could've been in 20 training camps, none of that changes the fact that the guy was 41 years old and past his best. Yes, he still proved he had a lot to show in his losing effort against Joshua, but I'd favor the youth, power, and speed of Wilder over the diminished reflexes, speed, and age of Klitschko.
These are all hypotheticals regardless. Join the call to make the Wilder fight happen then and lets settle all of this nonsense.
Even Wlad past prime is a better fighter than Wilder. Wilder has nothing but a punch. Wlad had that too, in both hands and was far far more skilled.
Wlad was the more skilled/better fighter, but time catches up with everyone and when boxers reach that age they lose a step in the department of speed and reflexes which typically also makes them gun shy. It was very evident in the Fury fight, and to a lesser extent the Joshua fight where after dropping AJ, Wlad refused to throw a meaningful right for the remainder of the bout. That won't happen with Wilder.
At this point I'd favor the youth, speed, and power of Wilder over the age and diminished speed & reflexes of Wlad.
With that said I'd still favor Joshua to win 60-40.
Yes because Joshua wasn't in a threatening fight ,taking on Klitchko in his 19th fight . :alcoholic
The thought of facing Wilder now with more experience must really have them shook ? :scared:
Klitschko was 41 coming off a 2 year layoff, clearly way past his prime.
Wilder is 32, 40-0 with 39KO, clearly in his Prime. All things considered Wilder is the more dangerous opponent.
Why are ya'll so against him and Joshua fighting for all the belts?? Why do ya'll keep saying he needs to fight some other boxer?? Joshua-Wilder is the fight to be made NOW!!!!! whats the issue here people?
Agreed, make this fight. It is the most logical step and the one who will crown the undisputed champion.
Sounds like Joshua fans wan't to hold on to him being on top a little longer before he is really threatened with a defeat.
Why are ya'll so against him and Joshua fighting for all the belts?? Why do ya'll keep saying he needs to fight some other boxer?? Joshua-Wilder is the fight to be made NOW!!!!! whats the issue here people?
Why you still ducking my question larry mustafa malcolm x??
Why are ya'll so against him and Joshua fighting for all the belts?? Why do ya'll keep saying he needs to fight some other boxer?? Joshua-Wilder is the fight to be made NOW!!!!! whats the issue here people?
I agree with you Larry.
But Hearn is on that marinate stuff that we had for GGG vs Nelo.
Whyte is a good fight for Wilder tough, because he's a guy who fought and rocked AJ, if he destroys Whyte easy, he will be regarded as the best (actually AJ is regarded as the top guy and A side).
I want Wilder to get his shot at AJ and the sooner the better. AJ is clearly number 1 and Wilder is clearly number 2. He certainly earned his shot by 39 KOs and 40 wins and a KO over top contender Ortiz. However to get his shot at AJ Wilder may have to lower his demands. AJ can go on making a fortune with or without Wilder.
Genuine question, how are AJ and Wilder the universally recognised #1 and #2? Povetkin has a chance to beat both, and there is no clear, dominant champion in the division.
Even if AJ beats Parker then and Wilder then Fury is back soon, and loads of challengers coming up. The winner of AJ/Wilder would still have at least 2 HW's that could beat them.
Yes but the fight we all want now is Deontay v Joshua.
We know it won't happen. That's the issue. Wilder will continue to price himself out.
We all know how the negotiations go ask for a high percentage knowing it will be kicked down.
Its got nothing to do with pricing.
Joshua just getting greedy getting as much money out of fights he knows he will win till it comes crunch time to fight the bronze bomber.
Maybe AJ likes his 0 too much.
Dude in any other scenario where there is this much of a gulf in drawing power, never does the B side make these kinds of demands. If they can agree terms, and Wilder can get a % close to 40 for the first fight, he's doing well and is set for life thanks to the bank of Joshua. Naturally, if he wins, the situation would mean that he would get better terms in a rematch and again, another life changing pay day.
The man and his team are idiotic, and unrealistic. If both sides negotiate after Parker, even if he takes the same as Parker he is getting around $15 million. If he really wants the fight, and really thinks he's going to win, that is what he should be thinking about. He should take Golovkins approach to the situation, or Floyd's approach when he fought Gatti and Oscar.
It called negotiations, they have to start hight and then come into terms.
You're retarded. Wilder will never be in the drivers seat. Joshua is so far ahead of him in drawing power there's no chance in hell he gets 60% in a rematch.
Always ridiculous demands and stupid stipulations with Wilder. If he was serious about the fight he wouldn't be making stupid demands to the press while making no effort at all to actually try to make the fight with Hearn.
Stork legs doesn't want it.
Calling me retarted when most poster knows how idiotic you are with the finances. You make a fool out of yourself and don't realize it.
Genuine question, how are AJ and Wilder the universally recognised #1 and #2? Povetkin has a chance to beat both, and there is no clear, dominant champion in the division.
Even if AJ beats Parker then and Wilder then Fury is back soon, and loads of challengers coming up. The winner of AJ/Wilder would still have at least 2 HW's that could beat them.
Povetkin can't be #1 or #2. Didn't he get caught cheating leading up to the wilder fight? Cmon man. If he was a clean fighter, I'd understand your point...but he was caught lmao