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I dont think it has. Hes avoided almost every fight that would test his heart IMO. His skills are always on display and they are something to admire,,, but his heart? Nah, he's scuured! i hate floyd, but i respect his boxing skills, with that being said. his fight against mosley showed heart and determination, and of course the ability to adjust and adapt.

You idiots know that it was Oscar's idea to go down 147 right? He was supposed to fight Cotto at 147, but Cotto ate plaster vs Marg, and so they presented Pacquiao (a 130 pounder at the time) instead. You guys don't remember this at all? You guys don't remember how everyone was saying that Oscar would KO Cotto and Pac at 147? And how the Pacquiao fight would just be a publicity stunt because Pacquiao is way too small??? But to answer the question, NO, 147 is not a catchweight because its the official weight limit for WW. Pacquiao vs Cotto/Marg and Floyd vs Canelo/JMM were catchweights.

lmao at the idiots criticizing and even ridiculing how Pac (an ATG) is hitting the heavy bag. LOL! ya you guys know what you're doing and he doesn't.

I think it's good that Manny doesn't over think and be too anxious about the fight. And I don't think you can really judge if someone is focused or not from interviews and things like, planning a concert/party AFTER the fight. This is the first time in years since Pacquiao is a heavy underdog. The last few times this was the case was against ODLH, Hatton (kinda), and Cotto.

actually if floyd can sneak in a couple of punches before and during the inevitable take down attempt, he can ko her before she can be effective. but once rhonda closes the gap and grabs floyd with her chin no longer targetable for a punch, its game over for floyd.

MMA fighters > Boxers (elite vs elite) in an MMA fight. This is just fact. Some of the ignorant boxing fans here don't know the history of UFC. The whole point was to see which martial arts is the best. There were no pro boxers that entered, but one thing was proven that day; Strikers eventually get DOMINATED by grapplers. Gracie Jiu Jitsu, specifically Royce Gracie won the first 4 tournaments. There were no weight classes, Royce fought and beat bigger and stronger guys. There is no question that any elite MMA fighter, bigger or smaller than Floyd would beat him easily in an MMA fight. The question is, can Ronda Rousey beat him? A girl. The answer is still yes. 1. Floyd is not that much bigger than her, and she's probably stronger when it comes clinching and grappling (see ronda and uriah hall). 2. Its been proven since day one that a smaller weaker grappler will dominate any striker even if they have strength and size advantage. Floyd is the underdog here, and the only way he can win is if he can KO her before she gets her hands on him.

I don't like to get into this, but how is that a sport? Someone kicking another unconscious then diving in to hit them in the head while they're lying on the floor has no place outside of a pub car park. ok, now go back to playing with your dolls, men and adult women are talking here.

You mean weight drained like Oscar Cotto and Margarito , I also bet Manny did not have a coke habit like Hatton did . Floyd will toy with Manny , people will not believe how Floyd will be a class above him , soon you will see soon . was floyd a class above maidana? how about cotto? lmao! i dont mind people saying that floyd beats manny, but to say that he will outclass him or dominate him is plain retarded! when was the last time pacquiao was outclassed? and he always fought the best. even floyd knows that pac is the bigges threat to his zero and everyone knows, including all the atg's know that pac will be floyd's biggest challenge, and will indeed define his legacy. dont be stupid.

Pac fan since day 1. Gotta give props to Floyd, he knows what to do to win fights. He won the chess match regardless if his tactics are exciting or not. He beat Pacquiao and proved he is indeed the best of this generation.

I doubt him just getting outboxed where he took little damage from a kind of light hitting much smaller man took anything out of Canelo maybe if anything he learned something. As for Pac he has nothing to prove and we all know what he is about, Floyd will continue to duck him why not fight Maidana to make a statement and possibly further humiliate Floyd with a great showing against him? i dont think canelo is shot after losing to floyd at all. what im saying is that, FLOYD will say that. floyd and his fans will not give pac credit for beating canelo even if he ko's him. im pretty sure pac will fight maidana no problem. i still believe floyd is waiting on pac to slow down some more before he fights him. it's all about floyd's health remember. pac will never meet all of floyd's stipulations.

I respect Manny and his accomplishments. I'm just not naive. I've been around NSB for too long. This is all about Floyd. When Manny looses, and he's gonna loose, fans will do whatever it takes to discard the win. He was old. He was shot. Blah blah blah. Nobody will give Floyd full credit. You and I both know this. If you're really paying attention to NSB, then you should know Pac's haters discredit all of his wins. Again, with your double standards. Each fighter are hated on by their haters, and gets credit from their fans. You ARE naive.

Its really the last meaningful fight for Pac in Top Rank, seriously if he signs an extension I will personally blame him for the Floyd fight not getting made ever. If he beats Marquez or Alvarez if he can pull an upset then all that's left for him is Floyd. The only way it happens is to go back to golden boy. As far as the question. Bradley-Provodnikov 2 could be better, just not as big. GGG vs Chavez would be better but nothing will be bigger because PAC is PAC. He's arums only draw once Chavez leaves. if pac re signs with TR, it would be his fault the flody fight is not gonna happen? TR is his home, he is loyal to to TR and Arum, Arum and TR is what made him a household name. so floyd is not to blame at all for holding a grudge like a child, and refusing to make the biggest fight of this generation? thats ridiculous. i personally dont want pac to re sign with TR. but i wouldnt blame him if he does. hes a loyal guy. you also have to realize that there is no guarantee that floyd will agree to fight pac even if hes a free agent, after all, TR and Arum wasnt the problem the first few negotiations. he had different excuses.

You guys really expect Floyd to chase Manny around? Floyd did offer Manny the fight twice. Manny passed twice. One could make the argument Manny is ducking/priced himself out. Every fighter Floyd has gone after since leaving Top Rank he has gotten in the ring. With one exception Manny. Why is that? Manny agreeing in public and Manny agreeing during negotiations is totally different. It's easy to agree when your already contracted out to fight someone else lol. IMO if Manny really wanted the fight he wouldn't of passed twice. Now I'm not saying he's scared but someone on his team is giving him some bad advice. So if Pac doesn't agree with Floyd's terms, he's the one ducking? Pac is ducking if he rejects the ridiculous 40 million, no ppv offer? We don't even the details of that offer. Pac is with TR, and they need a cut as well, is that gonna come out of that 40?? It's all BS from Floyd's mouth, no actual contract. They're supposed to NEGOTIATE. So far, Pac has been compromising his terms, ie. blood testing, 50-50 split but Floyd just keeps coming up with new ones. btw, Floyd agreeing and "offering a deal" in public and Floyd agreeing and "offering a deal" during negotiations is totally different. Stop with your double standards.

floyd is gonna ask pacman to completely get rid of his accent.

whats the point of fighting canelo? even if pac beats him, everyone including floyd himself will say that he was not the same after losing to floyd. pac beat tim bradley a top ww in his prime twice convincingly. he has nothing to prove and we all know its not about that at all. floyd won't fight pac til pac is shot. beating canelo will scare floyd even more.

as a pac fan, i want this. he deserves a chance for revenge after all the rematches he gave jmm. plus everyone knows he was whoopping jmm's ass til the bionic punch for hell happened. i only really wanna see pac fight jmm and floyd. those are the only 2 fights that he needs to win convincingly to help him climb the ATG list some more. the jmm ktfo put a dent on pac's legacy, beating either one convincingly will pretty much erase that. and beating both will just make him THE fighter of his generation and at least top 5-10.

wow. I love Floyd, but SRL would beat him. Shocked SRL is talking trash to money may. im not shocked at all. floyd has been self proclaiming to the TBE title a lot lately, and its annoying the ATGs, especially since floyd never challenges himself by fighting the best fighters available to him.

But in my book Pac walked away from 2 serious occasions to make the fight. 1) first because of a test, when pretty much everything else was agreed on. 2) 40 million which i believe isnt a number to hang the phone on and dont resume talking about. he has the right to make the decisions he wants to make. My problem is that he makes a lot of noise claiming to his fans that he really wants to make the fight. but i dont see the efforts from his side. FMJ was as direct as possible by picking the phone and try to make something work. Which i consider pro-active. I just dont see pacman's eagerness to make the fight, outside fooling fans by saying things in the media. He knows the situation with the promotors and networks better than any of us... If he isnt about fighting floyd and showing us what he is willing to do for it. He shouldnt mention floyds name anymore. I say this based off the way he acted at first take with brandon rios. I feel a bit fooled everytime manny tries to sell the fans that he is gonna make the fight happen... Again, this is double standards. They were in constant negotiations. In the first negotiation, Pac's team disagreed on the testing, but they negotiatied and Pac's team asked for a 14 day cut off. Floyd's team refused. Pretty unreasonable because: 1. what can you possibly take with in a 14 day period that will help you win a boxing fight? 2. he allowed shane mosley to have a 14 day cut off. Then later on Pac's team agreed on testing til the nigh of the fight. And what happened? Floyd came up with new stipulations. If you can't see that the testing was never an issue, then you my friend is blind. Now the 40 million (no ppv) offer. Ridiculous offer. Again, they negotiate. Pac is not some B side level chump that will just take Floyd's offer. Pac wanted a percentage and he wasnt even asking for 50-50 like he previoulsy did. Team Pac compromised their stipulations AGAIN, but Floyd rejects it. Floyd/Canelo broke the 2 million ppv mark, how much do you think Floyd/Pac would sell? Pac is not a dumbass to take quite possibly 20% or less of what the megafigtht would generate and let floyd have 80%. Now, Floyd asks Pac to leave TR and joing TMT, fight a couple of fights then they can fight??? pretty ridiculous. The clear constant pattern is this. Pac keeps compromising his terms to try to make the fight, but not completely giving in to all of Floyd's mostly ridiculous terms. Floyd keeps coming up with new stipulations everytime the last one was agreed upon.

i hate floyd, though i respect his boxing skills. but if its true that he broke up with her cuz she got an abortion, mad respect to floyd for calling out an abortionist. no one has the "right to choose" to kill innocent babies.

I agree here, if he does than he is a liar in my eyes. Atleast 9/10 times FMJ keeps it real about chances of the fight happening and atleast he made 2 real attempts to make the fight. If pacman resigns without negotiating with the other side, he'll lose a lot of respect from me, despite his 8 weightclasses... Who said he's he's not negotiating with other promotions? of course they look at all the options, but you have to realize that Pac's team whether they are on Arum's payroll or not are gonna be loyal to Arum. Arum was the one that got him all those superfights. Pac and Arum has always had a good relationship. You can't just expect team Pac to leave Top Rank, especially not for GBP. A lot of people can make a lot of money by selling their house and moving somewhere else, but they don't. Why? because thats their home, and they are comfortable there. Now, regarding him ducking Floyd if he resigns with TR? The same can be said about Floyd. If he really wants to fight Pac, who is easy work according to him. Why won't he sign with TR? This is double standards. Arum has said that he is willing to work with Floyd, it's Floyd who keeps saying that he won't fight Pac unless he leaves TR and sign with TMT. Which is just ridiculous. Floyd has had 8-10 excuses not to fight Pac, he'll never run out until Pac is washed up.

FMJ made two serious attemps IMO, i cant blame him because of that everyone can BS the public with what they say in the media. I honestly dont hope you believe everything Bob tells you. To give you an example bradley knows and has made it clear that he wont be fighting anyone on the other side. Bob is pro inhouse. Im not saying GBP isnt about inhouse btw. FMJ CANT sign with TR because he is with GBP and an exclusive deal with showtime thats my answer to this rethorical question of yours. All the talk about FMJ s excuses at best they have both made excuses. and i personally think if manny wants him he should challenge him and call him bluff the moment he is free. if things dont work out he can always go back to uncle bob. I personally dont believe FMJ is scared of manny's boxingskills. I'm waiting to see proof from manny's side that he really is about fighting. so far the only one who proved he wanted to make the fight is FMJ!! I take everything Arum says with a grain of salt. I think he's a snake and all about his money. I personally think Pac should leave him. But it seems to me like you take everything Floyd says as fact. The facts are out there to see. Pac's team has been compromising their terms to make the fight since day one, while Floyd's team keep coming up with new ones.

Its hilarious seeing you try to defy all logic by completely ignoring the talks from 09 and jumping straight to the 40 million offer. 2009 was the only time that the two sides legitimately sat down with each other to try to make a fight and Pacquiaos team passed. All other times it was May weather's team that ATTEMPTED to start talks. With the benefit of hindsight there is absolutely no reason to look at Floyd's offer from 2009 and say that it was unfair or unreasonable. He clearly tried to compromise. You can call it a roadblock all you want, but at this point you have to realize that it wasnt a big 'roadblock'. Pacquiao could have very easily accepted that offer and we wouldnt see sitting here talking about who ducked who 5 years after the fact. I know that what I said makes too much sense and you'd rather bash Floyd at any costs, but a part of you has to see this. lmao get floyd's dick off your mouth! 1. wtf makes you say that the 2009 negotiations was the only serious negotiation?!?! where did you get this from? where u there during all the other so called negotiations that you can claim that the first one was the only legit one??? 2. they were NEGOTIATING, pac's team didn't agree on the testing that floyd wanted, floyd's team didnt agree with the cut offs that pac wanted. why is it that you say "pac passed" ? if floyd didn't demand the unprecedented testings, that never happened before in history of the sport, then thefight woudlve happened. if floyd agreed to pac's terms on the testing, then the fight wouldve happened. so i can just as easily say that floyd passed. but im not an idiot like you. BOTH passed, because they did not agree on the terms of the fight. thats how negotiations work dumbass. the fact of the matter is, pac has now agreed to all of floyd's stipulations. ie, blood testing, less than 50-50, but floyd just keeps coming up with new ones.

obvioulsy the reason why floyd didn't mention bob arum before was because it didn't rhyme with "best". remember he used to say, "if you're the best, take the test" now "if you're the best, leave bob, sign with tmt, take a flat rate, and where sparring gloves" just wouldnt work. grow some balls floyd.

I got the assertion that they only actually negotiated in 2009 through facts. If you can name one other time where Bob Arum and Floyd/Ellerbe/Schaeffer sat down and tried to make the fight, please tell me. I'm assuming that you consider talking through the media as negotiating? No need to call me an idiot because u disagree. Makes u look like more of a dumbass than you already do. Now, in terms of 2009, answer this question for me: Do you personally see anything wrong with a 14 day cut off? Do you think that a 14 day cut off was an unreasonable demand? What were the reasons for not wanting to do blood testing for both fighters all the way up to the fight? Floyd would have gotten the blood tests just like Pacquiao would have. There was no unfair advantage either way, correct? 1. Neither of us know how the promoters communicate. Negotiations start with communications, NOT when they're all in the same room. Your assertion is not based on fact, its an assertion based on your opinion of your interpretation of the limited knowledge that you have regarding the situation. The point is, you might be right, but you simply can't back this up, and thus it's only an assertion. 2. Even if you're right. The negotiations failed not because Pac passed on the offer, but because neither side agreed on the terms. For some odd reason you Floyd fans see Floyd as this boxing ruler where he simply states his terms, and you either take it or leave it. And if you leave it, you're the one who dodged the fight. Thats not how it works, especially since Pac is one of the biggest draws this sport has ever seen. Pac is not desperate to fight floyd, like other fighters that are looking for a payday. Pac's team agree to testing 30 days before the fight and IMMEDIATELY after the fight. Do you think THAT's unreasonable? You have a double standard. By your logic I can just as easily say that Pac offered Floyd the fight, but passed. Pac offered a fight with traditional drug testing, and Floyd passed.

why do you guys wanna see pac fight a MW? wtf? so what if thats where the money is? pac has a wife and 5 kids, the 5th is a newborn, hes also a congressman who is aiming to be the president (God forbid) of the philippines. why the hell would he take such a health risk? whats the point of making money if u become a vegetable after a few years? i want him to fight broner and garcia.

If those were really Floyd's kids she wouldn't have had the abortion. Enough said. true.. she probably got the abortion cuz she knew they werent floyd's and knew if she kept them shed be out of TMT for sure. but floyd probably knew they werent his so he broke up wiht her. floyd is gonna lose this saturday.. these things are ominous signs.. ill probably bet money on it depending on the odds.

Yes anyone that thinks Pacquiao's technique is flawed is a moron. no, anyone who thinks no fighter has flaws is a moron. anyone who thinks pacquiao doesn't have ATG level boxing technique is a moron. YOU are a moron.

;14556905']Lol so was manny Pacquaio playing the "true warrior vs Rios?" Lol GTFO with this bs. lmao these morons think pacquiao climbed the ATG list and won fighter of the decade by acting tough in the ring.

Manny Pacquiao vs Tim Bradley II WAS NOT NEEDED AT ALL. That gift decision + a hard win over 40 yeard old JMM and going life and death with Ruslan tricked people into thinking Bradley was actually the real deal. I knew damn well Pacquiao was going to win that fight with ease. I would not be surprised if you guys eat up an eventual PacBradley III smh. Floyd went against the best option available , a rugged agressive welterweight champion. Maidana did what he was supposed to do, pressure and throw shots from all angles. Mayweather made the adjustments and won a clear decision. Everyone knows that Pac won the first fight. But the rematch was not pointless. Pac wanted his belt back, and Bradley beat the guy who actually beat him, JMM. A 3rd fight however, is pointless. It's 2-0 Manny.

Maidana would KTFO Rios in 5 rounds it wouldn't even be an entertaining fight. Rios fights like he has a plank on his back and is slow on his feet, Maidana's quick head movement, ability to cut off the ring, underrated jab, and ability to throw punches from awkward angles is what made it such a tough fight for Floyd. Please people, stop comparing Maidana w/Rios the only thing they have in common is the fact that they're pressure fighters. :dunce: lol no he wouldn't. rios vs maidana would be like rios vs alvarez. the just stay in front of each other and bang all night. it could go either way.