Man I cant wait. Such contrast in styles. Mayweathers' very calculated/economical punching against pac's rapid fire combinations.
You can really see the difference in how these two fight. Mayweather stands in one spot perfecting his shots, while pac is constantly moving around the bag while throwing combinations. It's just the perfect match up!!!
You can't go off bag work, Floyd will always look conservative with pot shotting on the bag, and Pacquiao will always look explosive because that is their style of fighting.
Man, I love watching Pacman hit the heavybag, he is like a buzzsaw, non stop punching straight and sharp fast punches down the middle and he throws arm punches but mixes it up with hard hooks and hard shots every now and then.
Floyds heavybag work has never been impressive to watch but that is because he is visualizing and timing his right hand. He does this for 30 minutes on the heavybag, he is a cerebral fighter and all about timing and counters.
He has brittle hands so he will never go full blast on the bag or throw hard shots.
Pacquiao punching the bag with his combos and rhythm is like music, he is constantly moving throwing some punches, you have to have a lot of stamina and muscle conditioning in your arms, the regular guy won't be able to do what Pac does on the bag, they will gas out and their shoulders will tickle from the fatigue.
Off of a punching bag video though? Obviously they both know what they are doing on the heavy bag. You guys are seriously trying to say they are doing it wrong or something?
You do not understand what I said about the punching bag.
The punching fast, flashy and moving around is not going to work on a moving target who's not there to be hit. You have to have something to hit to do all that, that's when the punching bag comes in.
Did you see Ricky Hatton hitting the punching bag for the Pacquiao fight? He scared me, he was vicious. Guess what? Pacquiao is not the punching bag. So none of that vicious, fast, power punching and ducking/dodging in front of a punching bag worked in the ring.
You said it doesn't translate when it clearly does. It's training ones body to be able to punch while on the move, conditioning the right muscles. Pac's a volume puncher that moves in and out and his bag work shows that. Meaning yes it does translate. You fight how you train.
You probably think mayweather's paddy cake routine on the pads with roger is just for show?
Chino Maidana countered Floyd's pull counter with big right hands in both fights.
Good luck landing that straight right when Manny is turning you to your weak side all night. :boxing:
Props to Maidana but a lead right hand is distinctively different from a pullcounter. Mayweather doesn't use the pullcounter against southpaws.
LOL yeah it does. You train how you fight. To be fair you're right mayweather looks like he is warming up or cooling down.
But back to the bolded part. If you train slow then you are going to be slow LOL. Otherwise how the **** would condition your muscles to move as fast as you want. Watch how Adrien Broner hits the bag or the pads. Very quick with his hands but stands in one spot. You watch him in a fight and he doesn't know what the **** to do when he is on the move because he is not trained to punch while moving. That's why he is so flat footed.
You do not understand what I said about the punching bag.
The punching fast, flashy and moving around is not going to work on a moving target who's not there to be hit. You have to have something to hit to do all that, that's when the punching bag comes in.
Did you see Ricky Hatton hitting the punching bag for the Pacquiao fight? He scared me, he was vicious. Guess what? Pacquiao is not the punching bag. So none of that vicious, fast, power punching and ducking/dodging in front of a punching bag worked in the ring.
I dare anyone in here to hit the bag while constantly on the move for 1 min like Pac.... No wonder pacs' cardio is insane while maintaining a crazy pace for 12 rounds. Dude is a freak of nature when it comes to his cardio.
I can do that. It's fun, it's not something that gets you tired, unless you are a fatass or have extra fat hanging around, or have asthma or something. If you maintain yourself, you can do that for 1 minute. What's 1 minute? Seriously. If you say 3 minutes, that's tough, I can't do that.
I see they caught them in two different points of their training. Floyd looks more like he's warming up, while Pacquiao looks like he's going all out.
Not criticizing or anything, but my first day in the boxing gym I punched the bag like Pacquiao was and the main trainer in the gym told me you don't hit the punching bag that hard and fast, you have to slow down. Every boxer I saw punching the bag after me was doing it slow paced and taking their time. The punching bag doesn't hit back, so all that flashy, fast, moving around stuff will not translate into the real fight.
Honestly though, it's just way more fun doing it like Pacquiao, whether it's not fundamentally correct or not. When I hit the bag, I like seeing how fast I can pull off combinations. First I do them slow then keep repeating the combos faster and faster.
LOL yeah it does. You train how you fight. To be fair you're right mayweather looks like he is warming up or cooling down.
But back to the bolded part. If you train slow then you are going to be slow LOL. Watch how Adrien Broner hits the bag or the pads. Very quick with his hands but stands in one spot. You watch him in a fight and he doesn't know what the **** to do when he is on the move because he is not trained to punch while moving. That's why he is so flat footed.
Lol at these armchair experts critiquing Pacquiao's heavy bag work.
I dare anyone in here to hit the bag while constantly on the move for 1 min like Pac.... No wonder pacs' cardio is insane while maintaining a crazy pace for 12 rounds. Dude is a freak of nature when it comes to his cardio.
lol
I had good time debating with you about the negotiations. Just glad we can look past that now and look forward to the fight.
Water under the bridge... Until the night of May 2nd :lol1:
I see they caught them in two different points of their training. Floyd looks more like he's warming up, while Pacquiao looks like he's going all out.
Not criticizing or anything, but my first day in the boxing gym I punched the bag like Pacquiao was and the main trainer in the gym told me you don't hit the punching bag that hard and fast, you have to slow down. Every boxer I saw punching the bag after me was doing it slow paced and taking their time. The punching bag doesn't hit back, so all that flashy, fast, moving around stuff will not translate into the real fight.
Honestly though, it's just way more fun doing it like Pacquiao, whether it's not fundamentally correct or not. When I hit the bag, I like seeing how fast I can pull off combinations. First I do them slow then keep repeating the combos faster and faster.
It's On!
First time it really hit me it's going down. :boxing:
lol
I had good time debating with you about the negotiations. Just glad we can look past that now and look forward to the fight.
It's gonna be a lot of this soon
Chino Maidana countered Floyd's pull counter with big right hands in both fights.
Good luck landing that straight right when Manny is turning you to your weak side all night. :boxing:
Nsb analysts are incredible. Not only can they tell who wins fights by staredowns but by 20 seconds of bag work on day one.
I got my popcorn ready the night of may 2nd going to be a fun night for me.
Nsb analysts are incredible. Not only can they tell who wins fights by staredowns but by 20 seconds of bag work on day one.
This whole thread is just NSB in microcosm. Fúcking ridiculous. :lol1: