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Here is a link. Not the best quality but you can definitely watch the fight. http://www.justin.tv/gtxpwnz4#r=null~ Have a nice day.

Here is a link. Not the best quality but you can definitely watch the fight. http://www.justin.tv/gtxpwnz4#r=null~ Have a nice day.

What seems to be the issue with a lot of gentlemen posting in this particular thread is that even though Mr. Pacquiao has agreed to a 14 day "cutoff" date, that still is not considered random drug testing. This response will not be about bashing against Mr. Pacquiao or Mr. Mayweather, this is simply informing many who seem to overlook the real situations. The first thing that many of you should do is go to theboxingtruth.com and listen to the radio show from last night when Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA was there doing a live interview and took questions from callers. He basically broke it down saying that even though the rmedia has been reporting that the Mayweather-Mosley blood testing ended 18 days prior to the fight, 'THE TESTING DID NOT STOP". He also gave an explanation of why USADA decided not to take anymore blood until the night of the fight As you listen to the interview, he talks about when testing for HGH, CIR's(Designer Steroids), EPO's, Medicines, Supplements, etc every athlete before agreeing to the testing is educated about the process. He stated back in Nov. 2009, when Mr. Mayweather & Mr. Pacquiao first started negotiations for their super fight, he and representatives of USADA, sat down with both parties to educate them. Which gets to the next thing at hand. Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that there was a cutoff date talked about during the first negotiatins, where Mr. Pacquiao wanted 24 days and Mr. Mayweather said he wanted 14 days. Now that Mr. Pacquiao has emerged supposedly saying that he will accept the 14 day cut off, (which I don't believe should be agreed upon period due to legal reasons), Mr. Mayweather is either supposed to agree, or like some of you say, will try and come up with something else to not fight him. Well to quiet that storm, Mr. Tygart again wanted to clear the air and said that no matter what the fighters agree to, USADA "has the right to test blood & urine all the way up to the fight".He said that the intent is what will deter athletes from taking the chance of using anything illegal. Plus he also said that USADA can possibly find out through the blood testing if the athletes may have been "juicing" within a 6 month time frame after they have stopped. He also stated that there is only 3 things that will make any athlete shoot down the best possible testing procedures available. 1. Fee, which there is a price for USADA doing the test in which the promoters(If we are talking about boxing), would pay for that. 2. Inconvenience, in which USADA can come test you at any given time in which they will not come in the wee hours of the night. 3. Cheating, if in fact the athlete knows that they are using or have been using HGH's, EPO's, CIR's(Designer Steroids), other banned substances, and they don't want to get exposed. Which brings me to the last thing. Ask yourself this. 1.When was the last time that Mr. Pacquiao has been tested? November of 2009 for the Cotto fight correct? He only did a urine test which can't detect HGH, CIR's(Designer Steroids), or EPO's. 2. Why would Mr. Pacquiao agree to the 14 days now but didn't back when they attempted the first negotiations? 3. If USADA educated both parties back in Nov 2009, and Mr. Tygart said that they have a 6 month time frame where they can detect if an athlete may have been using something previous but have stopped, hasn't it been 6 months since Mr. Pacquiao's been tested? 4. Do Mr. Mayweather really need this fight now since there is so many other issues that comes into play with making this fight happen? 5. If this fight don't happen wouldn't Mr. Pacquiao fans still be his fans, and Mr. Mayweather fans, still be his? 6. Aren't these the 2 biggest names in boxing today? Exactly, so they will still make their money and further legacy whether they say they are not doing it or not. So all I'm saying is, look deeper into this 14 day cutoff talk, and be open-minded about the possibilities. Sometimes you can't judge a book by it's cover, you have to actually open the book and read, even if you like the book only for it's cover. Everyone have a good day.

Can someone send me a non sopcast link if u have 1 thanks really appreciate it.:boxing: If you want to watch the fight. You can go to justin.tv. The quality is not that good but you can definitely see it. Here is the link. http://www.justin.tv/gtxpwnz4#r=null~ Have a good day.

We all know floyd holds the wbc in high regard do you think this could come in to play and make a fight more likly ? I honestly believe that the WBC belt will be a factor, simply because it is the most recognized belt of them all, and like you stated, Mr. Mayweather holds the highest regards for that sanctioning organization. I also believe that it would further cement Mr. Mayweather's HOF legacy as well because he will be one of the very few fighters that have actually moved up 6 weight divisions, and have won the "Lineal" belts in each division. I also see it being a very interesting fight because of the styles. I do believe that Mr. Martinez will win a couple of the early rounds because of his unorthodox style, but once Mr. Mayweather makes his adjustments, I believe that the fight will change and I see Mr. Mayweather winning by UD. Have a great day everyone and enjoy this thread because this is a good topic to discuss via Roy Keane.

Thats sucks. Floyd is supposed to be the biggest draw. Mosley has had NUMEROUS PPV outings. I mean, this fight was promoted as the biggest fight the last couple of years. It was promoted as the biggest fight of the decade. A super SUPER fight. Schaefer said that this fight was the most heavily promoted fight in the history of Golden Boy. They were utilizing avenues which never had been used before to sell the fight. Not only that, Mosley and May are American fighters. 1.2 Millions is still great for boxing, but I have to admit. It does kind of worry me a little because this fight should have done much more than that. How many buys would it have done is Mosley never would have stepped into that ring to confront Floyd? You can try to compare those numbers to Pac/Clottey, but lets be real. That fight didn't even have a 24/7. Only had 2 months of half ass promotion. Clottey doesn't even have a fan base. Yet it still managed to do 700K. If a comparison is going to be done, it has to be to Pac/Cotto. 1.5 million PPV buys. Pac/Cotto did 1.5 millions buys even though: Floyd said Cotto was not a PPV attraction The 24/7 was "boring" 2 non American fighters After Mayweather/Pacquiao, we will not have any superfights for a very long time. Its going to be a very unsure time for Boxing. HBO needs to carefully use its budget to promote new fighters. I just wanted to correct you on the Pacquaio-Cotto PPV buys. No harm intended. The fight generated 1.25m ppv buys. Not 1.5m. That 1.5m number was put out there by Mr. Arum. If you notice, he does that for every Top Rank PPV Event. He has also really done that when it comes to Mr. Pacquaio, I believe because Mr. Mayweather at this point has become the biggest PPV draw, and we all know that Mr. Arum dislikes Mr. Mayweather with a passion. This PPV Event was compared to the Mayweather-Marquez PPV. I do believe that the Pacquiao-Cotto fight should have generated more based on the popularity of the fighters. Just like the Pacquaio-Clottey was being compared to the Mayweather-Mosley PPV. As far as the expectations, I do believe that GBP, were expecting bigger numbers based on the marketing & promotional dollars that were put into the event, but both parties have stated that they are happy with the numbers of 1.4m buys, and that has placed Mr. Mayweather in the history books again with having the most PPV totals in 7 fights, and has generated more revenue than Oscar De La Hoya, which has taken Mr. De La Hoya 19 fights to do, he also has 3 of the top 5 PPV numbers of any fighter that was a non-heavyweight event. And yes Mr. Pacquiao has 2 as well. 1.Mayweather-De La Hoya 2.44m buys 2.Mayweather-Mosley 1.41m buys 3.Pacquiao-De La Hoya 1.25m buys 4.Pacquiao-Cotto 1.25m buys 5.Mayweather-Marquez 1.1m buys Here is the actual statement for the Pacquiao-Cotto numbers from ESPN, and I am going to include the link for everyone's viewing. Pacquiao-Cotto tops Mayweather in PPVEmail Print Comments869 Share303 Retweet101 By Dan Rafael ESPN.com Archive Manny Pacquiao's historic 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto in Las Vegas on Saturday night did big business. The Top Rank-promoted fight generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, HBO announced Friday. If historical trends hold, the numbers will increase when all of the buys are officially audited. The 1.25 million buys, the most for a boxing pay-per-view this year, came from 650,000 from cable homes and 600,000 from satellite services. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4674275

Pacquiao agrees to OST up to 14 days before the fight, Really? What seems to be very strange about this report is, throughout the first negotiations, a 14 day cutoff time frame for the OST, was suggested by Mr. Mayweather but not accepted by Mr. Pacquiao for various reasons. Now that Mr. Mayweather has dominated Mr. Mosley, and Mr. Pacquiao really has no other boxer to fight that is PPV worthy or has generated a high public interest, it's being reported that he's now willing to accept the 14 day cutoff. I really believe that this is a PR move from Top Rank, so that the fans will continue to go back and forth amongst each other and point fingers at either fighter if the fight isn't made. As a promoter, Mr. Arum knows that the fight is only going to be a historic event if the fans like you and myself keep going back and forth and make the anticipation of the event worth while. If everyone can read between the lines they will understand these key factors that may play out and have a big affect on the fight not being made: 1. Mr. Arum has stated that this time around, the two parties will be "very cautious", not to negotiate through the media. Why are we getting informed about certain negotiation topics "supposedly"? 2. There has been NO reports of negotiations from either GBP or Mayweather Promotions. 3. If the 14 day cutoff was a problem before, why isn't it a problem now? 4. Mr. Mayweather was asked right after the fight from Larry Merchant (HBO), if there could be a compromise in the testing, can the fight be made, and Mr. Mayweather didn't answer yes to that question but simply said that "if Mr. Pacquiao agrees to the testing they can make the fight happen, and if not then there will be no fight". 5. Mr. Mayweather at this time is the only fighter that has a guarenteed $20 million purse each fight for the next 5 fights. Which makes it more of a benefit for Mr. Pacquiao to try and make this fight happen, because he can only get his guarenteed $6 million purse if he can continue either filling arenas or his PPV numbers can continue exceeding 1m buys. 6. If Mr. Mayweather has made over $30 million for the Mayweather-Marquez fight, has made close to $45 million for the Mayweather-Mosley fight, and as I stated before, that he is guarenteed a $20 million purse each time he laces up. no matter whom the opponent is, why do he really need the fight with Mr. Pacquiao? (I can answer that, he needs it to show everyone that he really can beat Mr. Pacquiao nothing else) 7. Why would Mr. Mayweather agree to a 14 day cutoff now, since Mr. Mosley and Mr. Mayweather took the testing all the way up to the fight? Keep in mind that USADA or WADA, within their procedures will not cutoff testing within a 14 day time frame, so that an athlete can "make sure that they are not weak" before a sports event. If they did that, then it would defeat the purpose of possibly catching either participant using illegal substances. Again, I really do believe that this is a PR stunt from Top Rank. I would love to see this fight happen like everyone else, but I don't believe that it's going to happen based on the factors that stopped negotiations earlier this year. I just can't see both parties bowing down to each other, and making this event happen. Hopefully I'm wrong.:boxing: Everyone have a nice day!!!!!

I just analyze their styles, and I don't see anything other than Floyd making him look retarded. I'm a realist unlike the Cotto stans were. I do agree that if Mr. Williams & Mr. Mayweather fought, Mr. Mayweather would have a big advantage. Styles in fact do make fights, and Mr. Mayweather has fought taller fighters before. The trouble that I see Mr. Williams having is the technical style from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Williams has trouble with fighters that can box. We all know that Mr. Mayweather is a master of the sweet science. The only advantage that Mr. Williams would have is to outwork Mr. Mayweather, and everyone says that they will either outbox him or knock him out but he makes realtime adjustments, and figures fighters out. Plus just stretching a little further, I honestly believe that Mr. Cintron was winning the fight 2-1 before the unexpected accident happened. As I just watched the replay again for the 3rd time, I see that Mr. Cintrons foot tripped over Mr. Williams leg/foot and caused the unbalance. Getting back to the topic at hand, I really don't think that a fight between Mr. Mayweather & Mr. Williams will ever happen because they are both managed by Mr. Al Haymon, and honestly there is not enough public interest in the matchup between the fighters, 2ndly, since HBO has Mr. Williams under their wing and pays him for HBO fights, and Mr. Mayweather is the PPV draw, Mr. Haymon is getting money from 2 sides of the fence. Why would he mess that up if the 2 fighters squared off and 1 lost? That would mess his money off and also would mess up the business side of it as well because HBO would eventually turn on one of the fighters and would not support them. So I believe that Mr. Williams should continue fighting at either 160 or 168 lbs, and will eventually get his just due. He's not a big attraction, he believes that he is the most feared in which he is not, and he's looking for that big payday but again, he is not a big attraction, and the publics interest is not high enough for a Mayweather-Williams fight. IMO. Everyone have a great day.

Freddie Roach: "Floyd is only an average fighter at his current weight class" What is very funny about Mr. Roach is, that he finds every opportunity to try and downplay Mr. Mayweather and his skills. Why? Let's be honest here. Back when Mr. Mayweather beat Mr. Marquez, just about every writer affiliated with every sports or news website tried to discredit the win, including Mr. Roach. Then when negotiations fell apart for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, Mr. Roach said that Mr. Mayweather had no-one else to fight and he would never take a fight with Mr. Mosley. After it was reported that the fight between Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Mosley had been signed, then Mr. Roach stated that he was surprised to see that fight really being made, and he tried to again discredit Mr. Mayweather by saying that the fight will not go on because he thinks that Mr. Mayweather will come up with either an injury or another excuse to get out of the fight. Just for the people who will try and call me on this, Mr. Roach did pick Mr. Mayweather to win by UD. All along, Mr. Roach forgot that he told everyone back in November of 2009, that if the fight is going to happen between Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao, he would rather that it be made in the latter months of 2010, because Mr. Mayweather is a special fighter, and he will need time to come up with a solid gameplan for Mr. Pacquiao to try and beat him. So now he is back to his old tricks because once again Mr. Mayweather has went against the nay-sayers, and proved them wrong, and Mr. Roach now says that Mr. Mayweather is slower, has no legs, and whatever else he can come up with to take away from Mr. Mayweather's skills and domination over Mr. Mosley. Why do that when the opposition is slower, has no legs, fights flat-footed, and got hit by 2 big right hands? Did it ever occur to Mr. Roach that maybe Mr. Mayweather meant what he said after the fight, that he wanted to give the fans a better type of fight? He wanted to show that he can stand toe to toe with a fighter that was regarded by many as the fighter that has more power, and is much more stronger than him, instead of moving every fight? SO SUPPOSEDLY, SINCE HBO HAS THE NOVEMBER DATE OPEN FOR A POTENTIAL TOP RANK PPV EVENT, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WILL BE A MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT? The truth of the matter is, Mr. Roach first off is not a negotiator, an advisor, manager, promoter, or business consultant to anyone. He is just simply a trainer. He likes to make it seem like he is doing something more than that. If Mr. Arum, Mr. Schaeffer, Mr. Haymon, Mr. Koncz, and Mr. Ellerbe have denied that negotiations will start as soon as today, why would Mr. Roach go to the media and tell them differently. Also it has been stated by all 3 promoters that they will not publicly make statements this time around until they have agreements and signatures on the contracts. I know that Mr. Roach means well. I understand that he is trying to keep the hype and interest for this fight at a high level, but he needs to let the people that get paid for that, do their jobs. He also needs to focus more on getting his fighters prepared for their bouts instead of speculations to the media regarding Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquaio. If the fight is meant to be, then it will happen. We are all wishing for the fight. Everyone have a nice day.

Is it me or does it seem every post that comes up about Mayweather-Pacquiao, Pacquiao's team always say that! Look at Mayweather vs Marquez. Floyd used heaps of movement that fight, and decided to fight Mosley like he did. Is anyone else tired of hearing that? We will see when Mayweather vs Pacquiao happens if Floyd has legs or not. Discuss... I am definitely tired of all the chatter about Mr. Mayweather not having any legs. Every fighter get's rocked a few times throughout their careers. Obviously people will try and dissect 1 fight and try and make it seem like Mr. Mayweather has lost something. Most people who will debate that is either Mayweather haters or they are the kind of "fans" that will believe anything stated by ones who are not Mayweather fans. Look, honestly, boxing is about hitting your opponent and not being hit. It's also about utilizing the whole ring to your advantage, outwitting your opponent, and using their advantages against them. Mr. Mayweather has done that obviously 41 times. True, there may have been some fighters that took him a little longer to figure out but he has done that 41 times against 40 fighters. As far as the "legs" statement, Mr. Roach states alot of things and then a few days later, he either doesn't remember what he told the media, or he is just doing like other's when they make untruthful statements. Most people should know that your legs are one the most important parts of the human body's balance. So if Mr. Mayweather didn't have legs then he would have been dropped in several fights where he took some big shots. You can have a suspect chin and still not go down if your legs are strong. Plus being in great shape increases your chances of not going down from a big shot. Also a question to the person who posted that statement about once Mr. Mayweather faces one of the top 5 GOAT, in which I'm guessing he's talking about Mr. Pacquiao he won't be acknowledged as one of the GOAT himself. Well my question is, do you really consider Mr. Pacquiao as top 5 GOAT? If so, why? What has he actually done in his career to make you believe that? Please don't give me any reason like he beat De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, David Diaz, Clottey, Barrerra, Morales, and Marquez, because we can go on and on about those fighters and bring up issues on why I would or any real boxing fan would dispute those wins. Also please don't say that he is a 7 time 7 division champ when in reality, he hasn't won the lineal championships in all the weight classes that he has been in and when he actually fought Barrerra, they fought for the Ring belt which at that time wasn't even a recognized belt. So please give me your take on why you believe that Mr. Pacquiao is a top 5 GOAT. Everyone have a nice day

**** what people have to say about floyd's legs------especiallu freddie roach---don't you guys and gals see the irony in all of this---including manny's groupies and freddie roach? floyd gets called a "runner" in the ring---yet, when he fights shane toe to toe and walks him down, his legs are all of a sudden gone? so, basically, freddie is saying, well, floyd doesnt "run" anymore, so just like oscar, hatton, and cotto, who were standing targets for manny, and come forward fighters, manny will ko floyd all of a sudden----so once again, floyd is in a lose-lose situation---he'll get bashed if he so called "run" and uses his legs, or he'll be ko'ed if he doesn't "run" and use his legs----the kid can't win for some reason----- and then manny's fans once again take freddie's words as if he's the pope or somebody---- they just said floyd runs too much, and he moved a lot in the marquez fight, yet dominated him, and manny is the same size as jmm----so why would they think floyd wouldn't move and make manny miss, and frustrate him? jmm countered manny just like floyd countered jmm and frustrated manny to the core----floyd dominated jmm doing this---- then he dominated shane walking him down-----and didn't move as much, now his legs or gone---i really want you manny fans and freddie and even manny himself to keep believing this---you guys base floyd's legs off of one fight one minute, then base him getting ko'ed off of another fight, the next minute---which one is it? have you guys and girls ever sat down and thought rationally for a minute that maybe, just maybe, floyd fights according to his opponent's style------maybe shane has been walked down before and has had trouble fighting going backwards in the past, just like manny, and maybe, that's why floyd decided to walk him down, and not move so much, and he did it brilliantly---you people ever think about that? i bet not huh? posters on this forum have gotten to where as a fighter has got to fight like they always do to make a fair assessment of their next fight---and it doesn't work that way folks---- floyd has not remained undefeated by so called "running" every fight and using his legs every fight---he has fought in the pocket, fought and countered off of the ropes, walked fighters down----used his defense, elbows to create distance, used his opponents' movement against them-----he's versatile---he makes adjustments like he did with zab and shane and corley and de la hoya and hatton---and you get the rest----floyd is the best, rather you people want to see it or not-----admit it or not---i really don't give a shit----- freddie is suppose to see a flaw in his fighter's opponents----so, he can believe that all he wants to---he saw in floyd when he trained oscar for him, and oscar still lose didn't he? is manny undefeated? no----is floyd undefeated? yes-----so there's a way to beat manny----and nobody has found a way to defeat floyd yet, have they? yes, nobody has found a way to do so, so let freddie believe in this---it's his job and right---- but, when it's all said and done, it's manny vs floyd----manny can't run anymore from floyd-----he has to get in there and get that ass taxed----and this will happen---- Well said pbftxrs316. I agree with you 100%. It seems like "fans" take what someone says and believes everything that person says. It's every trainers job to come up with a strategy to beat their opponent. It's also their job to speak out to the media and pre-hype a potential fight and boost interest from the public. Every trainer, coach, strategist or whatever you want to call them will say that they have the perfect gameplan, but it's all up to the fighters when it's all said and done. Fighters, especially the ones who have lost before or who are pretty much set in their ways, may play out a gameplan to the tee in the beginning. But if something doesn't go right, most of them will panic and result back to their old ways which was a perfect example last Saturday night. Sure, we all want out "FAVORITE" fighter to win, and we all speculate about how the victory will occur, but again when it's all said and done, it will be up to the fighters. Fans, parents, commentators, CEO's, promoters, cutmen, bodyguards, 24/7, cameramen, entertainers, rap or R&B singers, haters or anyone else cant fight for these two. It will be only them in the squared circle, and the best fighter "THAT NIGHT", will be victorious. Everyone have a great day....

is he there at cowboy stadium ?? Yea Hitman he is there. They showed him during the Castillo-Gomez fight.

re: Did Marion Jones test positive on olympic blood test? She never tested positive. She was found out using "Clear", after several times her husband kept trying to tell the media that she didn't win those medals honestly. He was training her for a while and then when their marriage fell apart, she tried to make it seem like he was jealous of her success because he wasn't picked for the Olympics, but he attacked back and told the media that she was using PEDs. Of course because most people feed into the media BS and how they try to cover for people that they say are "role models", they never looked into it. Well her name was brought up in the Balco scandal, when Barry Bonds was said to be using PED's too. So when Marion had to face court, she got caught up in a lie, and then admitted that she used "Clear", and that was the beginning of her end. Since the time that she has been involved in the Olympics, their protocal is much more stringent now, and that's why before the Winter Olympics started in Vancouver this year, 30 athletes were tested and kicked out of the Olympics for testing positive in which 20 or so were found using "Clear".

re: photomane I just saw that too, and asked myself the exact same question. Is BK riding on "Money May" a little? I really think that this fight is going to be good but if Floyd can stay off the ropes, or if he goes into the ropes and bait Shane into throwing those wide ass punches that he likes to load up on, then Floyd can throw some of those sharp counter straights or uppercuts. All and all, this will be a good fight for 2010!

1st of all....the regulars on here know that I don't like the current version of Mayweather Jr....I just got some inside info from a homie of mine's.... Tony Hirsch....Jr. MW fighter....in the Andre Ward camp... Apparently there was a phone call from Ward's place....to Floyd's camp..just to talk about the fight happeneing this weekend....Andre had his line on speakerphone and the conversation went something like this.... Andre's side: "Man...just wanted to let you know that all these cats out here, I don't care what they say about you Jr....just do you and represent...etc..." Mayweather's side: (supposedly Floyd Jr himself) "I don't give a f**k what anyone got to say about me....at the end of the day...don't nobody pay my bills, take care of my family but me. BUT....if people are expecting to see me potshot and play defensive against Shane...they're in for a muthf****n surprise...I'M JUMPIN ON SHANE FROM THE JUMP...I'M GONNA GIVE A GATTI TYPE PERFORMANCE...THIS FIGHT AIN'T GOIN PAST 9 ROUNDS..." I usually don't fall for this type of talk...but I know guys who box...and they pretty much heard the same story regarding this "phone call"..... _______________________________________________________________ I know people that box too, and I am a homie of Andre Ward. Plus I know Robert Guerrero and Nonito Donaire. I'm from the bay area and I was told earlier this week that Mr. Mayweather is planning to disrupt Shane's plan from the get go. From what I understand, he wants to not only punish Mr. Mosley for being out of character, but he wants to whoop on him a la (Corrales, Gatti, Ndou) style. I was also told that his hands are 100%, so he will definitely be trying to stop Mr. Mosley. I have seen Mr. Mayweather fight live in 15 fights and Mr. Mosley in 7. Mr. Mayweather is much faster in person than he looks on TV, and he is faster than Mr. Mosley. Seeing Mr. Mayweather this week out here in Vegas and his demeanor, I'm going to be the first one to say that it's going to be fireworks Saturday. I'm not saying that Mr. Mayweather will straight out KO Mr. Mosley, but I do think it's very possible that he will either cut Mr. Mosley up to the point where they will have to stop the fight or he will close Mr. Mosley's eyes from all the punches and they will stop the fight. Just being a big fan of the sweet science, not just certain fighters, styles really do make fights, and the only way that I see Mr. Mosley winning this fight is either outworking Mr. Mayweather in which is not impossible but more than likely will not happen or he somehow can trap Mr. Mayweather into one of those power shots flush. That may be possible but I think that Mr. Mayweather will counter that attack all night long. I do believe that it will definitely be the best fight of the year hands down.:boxing:

Is Floyd Ill? lol... looking for the interview on espn can't find it. I watched the interview he had with Jim Rome, and yes he sounded congested, but shouldn't be a problem. It could be allergies Hey D.I.E.S.E.L Mr. Mayweather is live & kicking. That was an earlier interview where he sounded like he just woke up or something. Here is the espn link for the Brian Kenny, Floyd Interview from today I believe. espn.go.com/video/clip?id=514...goryid=2378529

Mr. Mayweather did weigh in at 146 against Mr. Marquez. You can go to boxrec and take a look at the tale of the tape. Mr. Marquez weighed in at 144, Mr. Mayweather weighed in at 146. He just didn't drain himself to the catch-weight of 144, in which I was told, via close sources, that the catch weight was put in the contract at first by GBP.

re: Is the rematch clause a rumor or confirmed The rematch clause is a rumor. That was put out there just to sway the interest towards a possibilty that Mr. Mayweather may not be confident enough. Honestly, there has only been one fighter that Mr. Mayweather has fought in a rematch and that was Jose Luis Castillo. The only reason that happened was because from some spectators, they had believed the fight to be closer than what it actually was scored even though on all scorecards the judges had Mr. Mayweather ahead 8-4. So because the perception was that it was a closer fight, Mr. Mayweather decided to rematch JLC. There has in fact not been a rematch clasue in any of his previous 40 fights. Even with De La Hoya, there wasn't a rematch clause even though the finances would have been beneficial. The fight wouldn't have. Also here is a real source regarding the rumored rematch clause for the Mayweather-Mosley showdown. According to Chris Mannix the Staff Writer for Sports Illustrated that covers the NBA and boxing there is NOT a rematch clause for Mayweather-Mosley twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI here are his most recent TWEETS "It's done: Richard Schaefer told SI.com that Floyd Mayweather has signed a contract to face Shane Mosley on May 1st in Las Vegas" "Contrary to reports, there is no automatic rematch clause for either fighter in the contract." "Rising Mexican star Saul Alvarez will be on the undercard. GBP President Oscar De La Hoya will conduct a separate press tour w/Alvarez."

re: Pain Killer Mayweather 5 Pay Per View Fights Before Marquez 4.4 Million Buys and $212 Million June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million I'm looking at these numbers and they are looking pretty accurate but the amount of revenue generated was $236.2m, which Mr. Mayweather did not take home all of that revenue. If anyone here really knows about the business side of boxing and Mr. Mayweathers situation, with the Gatti and Judah fights, he was still under Bob Arum. Within those 2 PPV's not only was Mr. Mayweather able to get a guaranteed purse of $3 and $5m for those two fights, but he also was able to get a percentage from the actual PPV numbers.(Only other boxers to do that previous to that time was De La Hoya, Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis both fighters & Roy Jones). That's why Mr. Mayweather had problems with Arum in the first place. Arum didn't want to pay what was agreed upon because he expected the PPV numbers to be at least around 500,000 apiece. Again if people in here really understand the business side and the history of PPV, boxers in smaller weight classes rarely topped 500,000 buys. That's why De La Hoya was such a huge success because he changed the game as far as PPV buys in the lower weight classes. During the time of the Gatti, Judah and Baldomir fights, the PPV numbers were good for any boxer just starting out on PPV, without another major PPV fighter to dance with. It's proven that without a De La Hoya, or a Mike Tyson, PPV numbers would be around 3-400k buys. Mr. Mayweather knew this, Mr. Arum knew this, and HBO knew this, and this is why Mr. Arum tried to keep Mr. Mayweather from chasing the bigger paying fights because he knew that once Mr. Mayweather went to the next level, he would leave based on a few issues that go way back to when Mr. Mayweather won his first title from Genaro Hernandez. After the Judah fight and Mr. Arum did not pay Mr. Mayweather the rest of his money, HBO whom already had a contract with Top Rank & Mr. Mayweather individually, wanted to match up Mr. Mayweather with Shane Mosely, and to build up the anticipation for the dream fight between Mayweather-De La Hoya. Since Top Rank didn't want to do business with GBP based on the falling out that De La Hoya and Mr. Arum had during De La Hoya's stint with Top Rank, Arum tried to do like he does to this day, and that is do his own in-house match making. He wanted to match Mayweather-Margarito. At that time since Mr. Mayweather had become the best P4P fighter in the world, seeking a much bigger payday than $5-$8m, and to become a PPV household name, it wasn't beneficial to fight Margarito, who was not a PPV fighter at all, wasn't recognized as a Lineal Champ, or a top P4P fighter. So Mr. Mayweather went to Mr. Arum, and spoke to him about a fight with De La Hoya, and the fact that he demanded a $20m guaranteed purse, and Mr. Arum told him that he would never get that as a fighter, so he need to take a fight with Margarito. HBO approached Mr. Mayweather about a possible showdown with Mosley in which he didn't mind signing a contract for but the only way that he could do that fight was to get from under Top Rank. Instead of Mr. Mayweather coming out of his pocket, HBO put up $750k to get Mr. Mayweather out of his contract. After that was taken care of, now Mr. Mayweather was ready for Mr. Mosley, but Mr. Mosley decided not to agree to terms, and Mr. Mayweather fought Baldomir instead, in which it was for the Lineal Championship, and he went on to not only get the $8m dollar purse that was offered from Top Rank to fight Margarito, but he went on to make around $12m total for that fight. That will bring us to De La Hoya-Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather did in fact get his $20m guaranteed purse(which Arum said that he would never get) but he is the first fighter to fight De La Hoya, and get a percentage from PPV buys. Before then, De La Hoya would only get PPV percentages whomever he faced. So when it was all said and done, Mr. Mayweather was able to take home a little over $35m from that fight. Then came Hatton-Mayweather in which Mr. Mayweather again was able to get a $20m guaranteed purse, a percentage from the event for being a promoter, and a percentage from PPV. He was able to take in roughly $28m for that fight. This is just some history for everyone on here that may want to look at $236m, and believe that Mr. Mayweather generated that much in his bank account from those 5 PPV's but in reality he has generated close to $80m, and when you are fortunate enough to be in a different tax bracket, if you are really in debt with the IRS, they will come take things from you. Rich and wealthy people tend to allow the IRS to say they owe something then dispute the amount because honestly, if someone came to you and told you that you owe $100 dollars and you believe it's around $30 dollars, would you just pay them the $100 or dispute the amount? That's been happening since the old days of finances. So what this boils down to is, at this time, whether you want to compare numbers between fighters, give your personal opinions about certain fighters, or just flat out dislike a fighter because of your own personal vendettas. People lie, numbers don't and boxing is not just a sport but it is a business, and just because the IRS sends you a notice, that doesn't mean you are broke. The smart people with money, dispute then pay a settled amount, or they just file bankruptcy so they can keep their assets. I know this because I am a financial advisor for ........( I won't tell you that)...Happy debating everyone and have a great evening!

re: Pain Killer Thank you sir. I like your post as well. It has a lot of people talking and showing who they actually like and dislike. Have a great day.

WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao is willing to consider the random drug test demands of Floyd Mayweather Jr. Speaking with the Manila Bulletin, Pacquiao said he was willing to meet Mayweather's previous number of 14-days to help make a mega-fight in November. Click Here To Read More] What seems to be very strange about this report is, throughout the first negotiations, a 14 day cutoff time frame for the OST, was suggested by Mr. Mayweather but not accepted by Mr. Pacquiao for various reasons. Now that Mr. Mayweather has dominated Mr. Mosley, and Mr. Pacquiao really has no other boxer to fight that is PPV worthy or has generated a high public interest, it's being reported that he's now willing to accept the 14 day cutoff. I really believe that this is a PR move from Top Rank, so that the fans will continue to go back and forth amongst each other and point fingers at either fighter if the fight isn't made. As a promoter, Mr. Arum knows that the fight is only going to be a historic event if the fans like you and myself keep going back and forth and make the anticipation of the event worth while. If everyone can read between the lines they will understand these key factors that may play out and have a big affect on the fight not being made: 1. Mr. Arum has stated that this time around, the two parties will be "very cautious", not to negotiate through the media. Why are we getting informed about certain negotiation topics "supposedly"? 2. There has been NO reports of negotiations from either GBP or Mayweather Promotions. 3. If the 14 day cutoff was a problem before, why isn't it a problem now? 4. Mr. Mayweather was asked right after the fight from Larry Merchant (HBO), if there could be a compromise in the testing, can the fight be made, and Mr. Mayweather didn't answer yes to that question but simply said that "if Mr. Pacquiao agrees to the testing they can make the fight happen, and if not then there will be no fight". 5. Mr. Mayweather at this time is the only fighter that has a guarenteed $20 million purse each fight for the next 5 fights. Which makes it more of a benefit for Mr. Pacquiao to try and make this fight happen, because he can only get his guarenteed $6 million purse if he can continue either filling arenas or his PPV numbers can continue exceeding 1m buys. 6. If Mr. Mayweather has made over $30 million for the Mayweather-Marquez fight, has made close to $45 million for the Mayweather-Mosley fight, and as I stated before, that he is guarenteed a $20 million purse each time he laces up. no matter whom the opponent is, why do he really need the fight with Mr. Pacquiao? (I can answer that, he needs it to show everyone that he really can beat Mr. Pacquiao nothing else) 7. Why would Mr. Mayweather agree to a 14 day cutoff now, since Mr. Mosley and Mr. Mayweather took the testing all the way up to the fight? Keep in mind that USADA or WADA, within their procedures will not cutoff testing within a 14 day time frame, so that an athlete can "make sure that they are not weak" before a sports event. If they did that, then it would defeat the purpose of possibly catching either participant using illegal substances. Again, I really do believe that this is a PR stunt from Top Rank. I would love to see this fight happen like everyone else, but I don't believe that it's going to happen based on the factors that stopped negotiations earlier this year. I just can't see both parties bowing down to each other, and making this event happen. Hopefully I'm wrong.:boxing: Everyone have a nice day!!!!!

That shit was so overrated that its not even funny. He hit Floyd so flush on that 1st shot. It was like Floyd just standing there and letting someone hit him and Shane still didnt drop him. He held for a sec and then immediatly started walking Shane down again. Shane even caught him with another good hard right that no one talks about but then Floyd started coming right at him again. Then Shane catches him as soon as Floyd starts to swing. That dazed him & had his legs shakey but like 5 seconds later again, he was swinging back from the ropes with full force and dominated the last 30 seconds of that round. Everyone acts like Floyd was so gone. He wasnt I am so glad that you picked up on that. Honestly, the best solution for a fighter after getting rocked is to either retreat and then the next round, take it off a little to stay away from danger or if they are a puncher, stay right in there like a matador and try and outpunch the other boxer to see if they can land something meaningful. Well in this case, Mr. Mayweather took a straight right hand after getting baited with the jab to the body, which was a smart move by Mr. Mosley. The next right hand came around the guard in which I don't believe that it had that much of an affect, and the 3rd right hand came simply as the two were throwing punches which was a nice counter by Mr. Mosley. All in all, Mr. Mayweather proved that not only does he have a good chin, but he also has strong legs, great heart, and the will to win. By simply doing the opposite of what Mr. Mosley thought he was going to do, he walked Mr. Mosley down, and took away his heart, and will, and beat him mentally, and physically. As for Mr. Roach, he definitely needs to stop talking to the media. He doesn't remember things that he says to the media from one week to the next. Honestly, what may have happened is, since the talks have started and Mr. Arum put Team Pacquiao on blast a few days ago, that may have silenced Mr. Roach as well. The thing to remember about the negotiations are, both parties have stated that this will not be a negotiated fight through the press like before, secondly the press likes to be the first to either break a story or get the anticipation higher by sometimes falsifying information, or better yet not having the full story, and the third thing is, if everything that is discussed is quickly stated in the media, and is reported incorrectly, then that may cause a problem between the two parties as well as place a halt on negotiations due to hearsay. So I do believe that everyone on either side should just wait until the contracts are signed then it won't matter about the gameplans or what Mr. Roach, Mr. Mayweather, Mr. Pacquiao, Mr. Arum, Mr. Schaeffer or the media says, because the fight will be signed and the hype will began. Everyone have a great and safe holiday.

re:fighnight1 response First off, I was at the Mayweather/Sosa fight and Floyd did not lose that fight at all. You must don't know boxing. 2ndly, pressure don't win fights. Accurate punching does and Floyd led on all scorecards for the JLC fight. Do your homework. He had a rotator cuff injury so it disabled him a bit but he did outbox JLC. The 2nd fight was a little closer but Floyd still won that as well. Anyone who just watched the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight and didn't get caught into the commentary trap could easily see that Oscar didn't connect that much in the fight. Again heavy pressure and activity doesn't win fights, clean, effective, accurate punching and ring generalship does. So when people respond on here about boxing, learn how to watch boxing matches without commentary and being bias, and look at punches landed. A punch that hits an elbow, an arm, or shoulder does not count towards a landed punch. It's considered a block, and don't get me wrong, Oscar, Victoriano Sosa, Jose Luis Castillo, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah, De Marcus Corley, Tony Pep, Phillip N'Dou, and a couple others had their moments but all either got outboxed or knocked out. So until someone actually beats Mayweather there shouldn't be hatred or bias towards him just becuz many think that he's cocky, and a shit talker. Holla back if you want some more boxing tips from a soon to be judge licensed with the California/Nevada State Athletic Commission

4thquartermusic-Floyd is the best, period! Responding to aguileraluis22's comment: Floyd is a very unique & great boxer. People failed to realize that when he dominated the 130 lb division, moving to 135, he did call out Oscar. De La Hoya wanted Floyd to chase him & he didn't think that Floyd deserved to fight him at the time. So as Floyd moved up in wait, & Larry Merchant started asking why not stay in a weight class & clean house, Floyd responded with, "he is moving on to BIGGER & BETTER things," which was really the money he was seeking, and the better opposition. So when he is making statements about other fighters, he has every right because behind the scenes there are a lot of politics and BS, and there are only a few fighters who have not only became very successful boxers in regard to titles, but also big paydays and running their own careers. Examples:(De La Hoya, Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins). Just go to youtube and pull up some of Mayweather's earlier fights & you will see after the fights during the interviews he calls out De La Hoya, Tsyzu, Mosley, Corrales, Freitas, Casamayor, and many others. Never called out Manny because he wasn't a factor. Shane had excuses 3 times on why he couldn't fight Mayweather, Cotto wasn't ready to fight him & said that he needed 1 or 2 tune-ups, Manny never called him out, he just kept saying that he would leave it up to his team, & everyone never called him out either. They always said during his retirement that if he comes out of retirement, they would like to fight him.

These bias comments are ridiculous. This is for anyone who thinks that Mayweather is ducking Mosley. There has been 3 times in the past few years that it was presented to Mosley about having a showdown with Floyd, and they all have ended the same way. Him refusing with an excuse. The most recent one is when he fought Vargas for the rematch, and it was set up through HBO, for him & Mayweather to fight in the next few months, and his excuse was that he needed to take some time off to go on vacation with his family & he needs to get his teeth looked at by a dentist. Come on now. Training camp is approximately 8-12 weeks, & he could have saw a dentist that following Monday. That was an excuse. Maybe he shouldn't have had his ex-wife Jin manage his career, and then he wouldn't be searching for a big payday at the end of his career. Mosley & Cotto, have given reasons in the past few years why they couldn't fight Floyd, you can actually see the excuses here at Boxingscene.com in the video archives. If Floyd fights either one of them, it will be a competitive fight either way but Floyd has more speed, & skill to beat them both.

NSAC: MAYWEATHER-MOSLEY BLOOD TESTING CUTOFF WAS 18 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT By Ronnie Nathanielsz PhilBoxing.com Okay everyone, I wrote a comment earlier today about how I believed that Top Rank was trying some PR crap, just to get the fans of Mr. Pacquiao and Mr. Mayweather bickering about the cutoff dates, and look what has happened. This article comes out. Wow. Look, first of all, Mr. Arum said that he would not use the media as a negotiation channel the next time he sat down with GBP & Team Mayweather. He wanted to be very cautious about that, because "He, Mr. Roach, and Team Pacquiao really wants this fight to happen". Yet, who has been in the media? Ask yourself this. Team Pacquiao, Mr. Roach, and Mr. Arum has. The only time that Team Mayweather has been in the media, has been to give their thoughts on the dominating performance from May 1st. Also Mr. Ellerbe came out in the media last week to shut down the rumors started by Mr. Roach and Mr. Arum, that negotiations had started between the parties last week. The next thing to look at is the comment about the testing cutoff date that "supposedly" the NSAC has stated ended 18 days before the fight. Ask yourself again this question, on the last episode of 24/7, did USADA show up on Monday of fight week, and Mr. Mosley was packing to go to Vegas? Didn't they have Mr. Mosley to give them a urine sample, and he clearly explained that he was trying to make weight, and he was dehydrated, and he would have rather that they take a blood sample? So again, doesn't the article about the 18 day cutoff sound fishy via Mr. Arum? The next thing is, the NSAC only take urine samples. They don't do blood test, and that's why USADA was brought in. So again, ask yourself if this article that Mr. Arum quoted in, sounds real? Also, after the fight between Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Mosley, USADA was waiting in the dressing room of Mr. Mayweather to take another blood sample, and that's why he was late for the post conference. So what it boils down to is this, Mr. Arum, wants Mr. Mayweather to agree to the 14 day cutoff for Mr. Pacquaio, and he is going to put this 18 day stuff out there to get everyone talking and siding with Top Rank and basically have everyone point fingers at Mr. Mayweather if the fight doesn't happen. Well in my opinion, if I was Mr. Mayweather, I would stick to my guns and say no cutoff date. We know for a fact that Mr. Mosley took at least a urine test 5 days before the fight through USADA. Plus Mr. Mayweather has a guarenteed purse of $20 million, no matter whom the opponent, for the next 5 fights. So if the fight happens, it happens. If it doesn't then Mr. Mayweather will still be in the drivers seat because there are a few PPV fights out there for him. Honestly, how many PPV fights are really out there for Mr. Pacquiao? Ask yourself that. Everyone have a great evening.:boxing: