Mayweather PPV numbers Pre Marquez- Why are Flomos obsessed with it?

re: Pain Killer Thank you sir. I like your post as well. It has a lot of people talking and showing who they actually like and dislike. Have a great day.

the difference between this thread, and horus's, are RELEVANCE. one thread is relevant, one isn't. ppv numbers matter, b/c they determine who gets what during negotiations, and if one side is not willing to abide by the numbers, the fight may not happen. case in point: PW demanding 50-50 split from pavlik, even thought pavlik is obviously a bigger star.....that fight didn't get done. worry about the dude owing money to the IRS, is not relevant at any level. arum's not gonna say, "you owe money to the IRS," during negotiations, so why are you dudes on NSB concerned about his money situation? PPV #'s matter.......what he spends his money on, doesn't. Then how about using logic. Pac will never be a bigger PPV star than Floyd. Reasons why? Pac can't sell a fight in English, Floyd is able to talk and get people listening. I personal don't enjoy Pac's interviews Floyd is American and of course is more famous there. Floyd also had a head start with Oscar. Clearly both became stars after it Before and after Oscar, there isn't much of a different It's Oscar that made the difference, heck 2.4 is amazing, althoguh I was quite disapointed with the fight after all the hype Pac will bring in a lot of sales to the Mayweather PPV for sure, I agree not the same, but he will bring in a lot He has the belt, and it is only now that Mayweather is discrediting belts. 700k isn't great, but TBH with the time, and lack of promotion, it didn't help. I think that Pac JMM now would hit 1 mil. I think that any fighter Pac will face after Oscar hits atleast 500k, where as before it was like 300-400 k The difference is Oscar. Floyd spending too much money has relevance. How many Flomos and fans talk shit about mosely being desperate after getting cleaned out by Jin? Have you ever thought about that or said something along those lines about mosely? i KNOW LOTS HAVE

Hey I'm just making a thread with PPV numbers and dollars from Horus's thread. It is a copy and paste. I didn't see you say anything to him about his obsession. I'm not actually obsessed but making a point, like Tortilla was about proofing Floyd was not on Steroids for 40 fights. Floyd's shit isn't all paid for, that's why he had people trying ti take him to court for not paying up. the difference between this thread, and horus's, are RELEVANCE. one thread is relevant, one isn't. ppv numbers matter, b/c they determine who gets what during negotiations, and if one side is not willing to abide by the numbers, the fight may not happen. case in point: PW demanding 50-50 split from pavlik, even thought pavlik is obviously a bigger star.....that fight didn't get done. worry about the dude owing money to the IRS, is not relevant at any level. arum's not gonna say, "you owe money to the IRS," during negotiations, so why are you dudes on NSB concerned about his money situation? PPV #'s matter.......what he spends his money on, doesn't.

Floyd was never broke and he's never going to be broke. Arum still owes him millions from his fights with Judah and Baldomir. ^^^ Uh huh, and the legal case is where? how long ago were those fights? It doesnt take that long to re-coup $$$ if in fact you are owed it. There should be some type of stipulation in the contract son...

i'm just making a point too. Good point it is :p Is it wrong of me to talk of his dollars? When he throws it at people, calls himself money and talks about it all the time? Even after all that, I was never said much about it at all. A man being broke or having money issues is a sad thing, and I am not a cruel human being, but I guess my distaste for Flomos got to me :o

Floyds PPV numbers against JMM proved he is the star of boxing. 1million without a dance partner. Pac only did 700k against Clottey. Without a dance partner? The #1 mexican fighter in boxing, fighting on Mexican Independence Day.....hmmmm, sounds pretty ignorant

according to him, "all his shit is paid for." = not broke. it's funny, the pactards complain about ppl being obsessed with dudes ppv #'s, meanwhile they're obsessed with what's in his pockets, and how he spends it... :nonono: it's happened to plenty other athletes in the past. they never grew up with shit, so when they get, they can't control themselves. many of them are too generous, and end up helping ppl out "too much." floyd is lucky for 2 reasons: 1) he states his shit is all paid for already 2) he had money problems BEFORE his career is over, meaning he can make a comeback, if he already hasn't. a lot of athletes go broke after their career is over. i'm with you tho, it amazes me how dudes lose that much money...... Hey I'm just making a thread with PPV numbers and dollars from Horus's thread. It is a copy and paste. I didn't see you say anything to him about his obsession. I'm not actually obsessed but making a point, like Tortilla was about proofing Floyd was not on Steroids for 40 fights. Floyd's shit isn't all paid for, that's why he had people trying ti take him to court for not paying up. i'm just making a point too.

Well the reason is these Flomos are crying over the fact that Pac is decade's best. They are trying to be cool in the forums, but theyre actually sad and crying in real life because they cant convince anybody that FLoyd is the better fighter Well, flomos think that PBF needs some kind of award or something to be recognized since Pacman already took all the awards and accolades anyway. Maybe, Ring magaziine will give PBF some sort of medal or trophy or anything ...well you know what I mean..

according to him, "all his shit is paid for." = not broke. it's funny, the pactards complain about ppl being obsessed with dudes ppv #'s, meanwhile they're obsessed with what's in his pockets, and how he spends it... :nonono: it's happened to plenty other athletes in the past. they never grew up with shit, so when they get, they can't control themselves. many of them are too generous, and end up helping ppl out "too much." floyd is lucky for 2 reasons: 1) he states his shit is all paid for already 2) he had money problems BEFORE his career is over, meaning he can make a comeback, if he already hasn't. a lot of athletes go broke after their career is over. i'm with you tho, it amazes me how dudes lose that much money...... Hey I'm just making a thread with PPV numbers and dollars from Horus's thread. It is a copy and paste. I didn't see you say anything to him about his obsession. I'm not actually obsessed but making a point, like Tortilla was about proofing Floyd was not on Steroids for 40 fights. Floyd's shit isn't all paid for, that's why he had people trying ti take him to court for not paying up.

Broke? :lol1: Floyd is far from broke you must not have seen the new big boy manison according to him, "all his shit is paid for." = not broke. it's funny, the pactards complain about ppl being obsessed with dudes ppv #'s, meanwhile they're obsessed with what's in his pockets, and how he spends it... :nonono: Nah don't get it twisted, Floyd made bank on that fight. But, what he may need is a new Accountant or Financial Adviser because there's no way you should be Millions in the hole when you're bringing in at least 7 figures a year give or take. it's happened to plenty other athletes in the past. they never grew up with shit, so when they get, they can't control themselves. many of them are too generous, and end up helping ppl out "too much." floyd is lucky for 2 reasons: 1) he states his shit is all paid for already 2) he had money problems BEFORE his career is over, meaning he can make a comeback, if he already hasn't. a lot of athletes go broke after their career is over. i'm with you tho, it amazes me how dudes lose that much money......

Floyd was never broke and he's never going to be broke. Arum still owes him millions from his fights with Judah and Baldomir.

Nah don't get it twisted, Floyd made bank on that fight. But, what he may need is a new Accountant or Financial Adviser because there's no way you should be Millions in the hole when you're bringing in at least 7 figures a year give or take. What % did he have of the PPV etc... Oscar normally always has the majority. Perhaps he just spent too much on assetts likec ars and houses. It isn't broke by our standards, but the cost of that living requires a lot of money

Mayweather 5 Pay Per View Fights Before Marquez 4.4 Million Buys and $212 Million June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million I'm looking at these numbers and they are looking pretty accurate but the amount of revenue generated was $236.2m, which Mr. Mayweather did not take home all of that revenue. If anyone here really knows about the business side of boxing and Mr. Mayweathers situation, with the Gatti and Judah fights, he was still under Bob Arum. Within those 2 PPV's not only was Mr. Mayweather able to get a guaranteed purse of $3 and $5m for those two fights, but he also was able to get a percentage from the actual PPV numbers.(Only other boxers to do that previous to that time was De La Hoya, Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis both fighters & Roy Jones). That's why Mr. Mayweather had problems with Arum in the first place. Arum didn't want to pay what was agreed upon because he expected the PPV numbers to be at least around 500,000 apiece. Again if people in here really understand the business side and the history of PPV, boxers in smaller weight classes rarely topped 500,000 buys. That's why De La Hoya was such a huge success because he changed the game as far as PPV buys in the lower weight classes. During the time of the Gatti, Judah and Baldomir fights, the PPV numbers were good for any boxer just starting out on PPV, without another major PPV fighter to dance with. It's proven that without a De La Hoya, or a Mike Tyson, PPV numbers would be around 3-400k buys. Mr. Mayweather knew this, Mr. Arum knew this, and HBO knew this, and this is why Mr. Arum tried to keep Mr. Mayweather from chasing the bigger paying fights because he knew that once Mr. Mayweather went to the next level, he would leave based on a few issues that go way back to when Mr. Mayweather won his first title from Genaro Hernandez. After the Judah fight and Mr. Arum did not pay Mr. Mayweather the rest of his money, HBO whom already had a contract with Top Rank & Mr. Mayweather individually, wanted to match up Mr. Mayweather with Shane Mosely, and to build up the anticipation for the dream fight between Mayweather-De La Hoya. Since Top Rank didn't want to do business with GBP based on the falling out that De La Hoya and Mr. Arum had during De La Hoya's stint with Top Rank, Arum tried to do like he does to this day, and that is do his own in-house match making. He wanted to match Mayweather-Margarito. At that time since Mr. Mayweather had become the best P4P fighter in the world, seeking a much bigger payday than $5-$8m, and to become a PPV household name, it wasn't beneficial to fight Margarito, who was not a PPV fighter at all, wasn't recognized as a Lineal Champ, or a top P4P fighter. So Mr. Mayweather went to Mr. Arum, and spoke to him about a fight with De La Hoya, and the fact that he demanded a $20m guaranteed purse, and Mr. Arum told him that he would never get that as a fighter, so he need to take a fight with Margarito. HBO approached Mr. Mayweather about a possible showdown with Mosley in which he didn't mind signing a contract for but the only way that he could do that fight was to get from under Top Rank. Instead of Mr. Mayweather coming out of his pocket, HBO put up $750k to get Mr. Mayweather out of his contract. After that was taken care of, now Mr. Mayweather was ready for Mr. Mosley, but Mr. Mosley decided not to agree to terms, and Mr. Mayweather fought Baldomir instead, in which it was for the Lineal Championship, and he went on to not only get the $8m dollar purse that was offered from Top Rank to fight Margarito, but he went on to make around $12m total for that fight. That will bring us to De La Hoya-Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather did in fact get his $20m guaranteed purse(which Arum said that he would never get) but he is the first fighter to fight De La Hoya, and get a percentage from PPV buys. Before then, De La Hoya would only get PPV percentages whomever he faced. So when it was all said and done, Mr. Mayweather was able to take home a little over $35m from that fight. Then came Hatton-Mayweather in which Mr. Mayweather again was able to get a $20m guaranteed purse, a percentage from the event for being a promoter, and a percentage from PPV. He was able to take in roughly $28m for that fight. This is just some history for everyone on here that may want to look at $236m, and believe that Mr. Mayweather generated that much in his bank account from those 5 PPV's but in reality he has generated close to $80m, and when you are fortunate enough to be in a different tax bracket, if you are really in debt with the IRS, they will come take things from you. Rich and wealthy people tend to allow the IRS to say they owe something then dispute the amount because honestly, if someone came to you and told you that you owe $100 dollars and you believe it's around $30 dollars, would you just pay them the $100 or dispute the amount? That's been happening since the old days of finances. So what this boils down to is, at this time, whether you want to compare numbers between fighters, give your personal opinions about certain fighters, or just flat out dislike a fighter because of your own personal vendettas. People lie, numbers don't and boxing is not just a sport but it is a business, and just because the IRS sends you a notice, that doesn't mean you are broke. The smart people with money, dispute then pay a settled amount, or they just file bankruptcy so they can keep their assets. I know this because I am a financial advisor for ........( I won't tell you that)...Happy debating everyone and have a great evening! Im glad someone explained it for those who dont know. i never believed that he was broke. Hey I went from making $35,000 to $50,000 within 1 year. The year before when i did my taxes I got back over $2500 but the next year I assumed I would get back more because i made more but the irs said i actually owed them $700. I asked my accountant how is that possible? He basically said it is because you changed tax brackets. So i owed the irs $700 but was I broke? Hell no. Far from it. People have to realize that floyd went from making 5-8 million a year to 25-30 million a year. His tax bracket will change and he would a few million. That doesnt mean that he is broke.

Well the reason is these Flomos are crying over the fact that Pac is decade's best. They are trying to be cool in the forums, but theyre actually sad and crying in real life because they cant convince anybody that FLoyd is the better fighter

He lost most of it. Whatever he has made from JMM has largely paid for his taxes. He needs atleast 2 more PPV fights after Mosely to be ok for the life style he has I don't think he made that much money fromt he Oscar fight TBh because I don't understand how he went broke so fast Nah don't get it twisted, Floyd made bank on that fight. But, what he may need is a new Accountant or Financial Adviser because there's no way you should be Millions in the hole when you're bringing in at least 7 figures a year give or take.

who's broke?? Floyd is a multi millionaire and is about to make more millions May 1 so im sayin if Floyd is broke then what does that make you?? I am comfortable. I'm not broke, never owed money to bin men in my life. My lifestyle isn't like his. He may have the dollars, but he spends it, and more than what he has. I have never been in that situation. Maybe you are broke, but I am not.

Anyone able to answer me this. Pactard, flomos, boxing fans. is it better to have very good ppv numBers and be broke? Or good ppv numbers and be rich? who's broke?? Floyd is a multi millionaire and is about to make more millions May 1 so im sayin if Floyd is broke then what does that make you??

Pac-Clottey didn't have 24/7. man there wouldn't even be a 24/7 if wasn't for Floyd Mayweather

Broke? :lol1: Floyd is far from broke you must not have seen the new big boy manison

Floyds PPV numbers against JMM proved he is the star of boxing. 1million without a dance partner. Pac only did 700k against Clottey.