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Martinez is going to do a lot of good for this sport while he's on top. Both in the ring and out. He literally will not duck anyone, and he shouldn't. He's supremely confident in his ability and athleticism. IMO he beat Williams already, and I think he beats everyone at 154-160.

The problem with punchstats is they don't account for scoring. Even if you win rounds big (like Glen Johnson against Dawson 1), it doesn't mean you necessarily win the fight. Boxing is scored on rounds not punches. That being said, I'm not disputing anything here, just that you can't decide a fight strictly on numbers.

Ive been waiting for his crooked ass to croke It's hard for me to say as someone who considers myself a good person, but if it's for the good of the sport...

It will be. No question Arum is too angry and too greedy. And he's a liar. I question anyone who thinks we're better off with him. Fights like Cotto-Pacquiao would've still happened without Arum. On the flip side, IMO Floyd-Pac may not happen BECAUSE of Arum.

Frazier beat him... Yes, but he avenged the loss, just like when he lost to Spinks. If Ali had stayed retired after beating Spinks in the rematch, he would've retired as current and 3 time HW champ having beaten everyone on his resume (ala Lennox Lewis). Not too shabby.

if mexicans were black..would we eat fried taco's :haha: And Grape Margaritas.

God i hate boxing when it comes to titles. That's why floyd let'em collect dust. Actually, the rule isn't terrible, it's just the fact that they put ridiculous timelines on these rules. 10 days?? What a joke.

Manny is fresh in everyone's minds for the DLH beatdown, Hatton destruction, and Cotto dismantling. Taken year by year, there's no doubt Mayweather's dominance was more profound throughout the decade. But in the world of "what have you done for me lately?"....

In 2004: Floyd beat Chop Chop. Pac had a draw with JMM and beat 3K. 2004 is the only toss up.

It's two belts of DIFF orgs bro I don't know why they don't tell him "vacate the WBC at 154 and we're all set". That is reasonable.

It's just them being stingy, and greedy.They don't want him to fight at 154 unless they are making some of the profit off it. It's ridiculous IMO. Boxing is full of sharks! No arguement from me there, haha.

I have a feeling Ali would've faced Jimmy Ellis earlier. Before Frazier.

We all hope boxing will be alive, well and globally televised (or streamed), at least as long as we're alive. Some say boxing is on the decline, while others will say it's perfectly fine. But what single factor do you think poses the biggest threat to the well-being, prosperity and longevity of Boxing as a sport and as entertainment? Just an example poll, there are a number of other possibilities.. I was about to tell you, "Great poll and thread", but then I saw that you missed the BIGGEST THREAT to boxing, sanctioning bodies. We saw just today a sanctioning body strip a newly crowned champ because of a lame rule and a tight deadline. Otherwise, great question.

Haha, I love when my parody threads get 5 pages of responses.

My personal opinion, Foreman doesn't have the power to concern Cotto and you see the Cotto wrecking ball come back. When he's coming forward, he's a completely different and better fighter.

Zab Judah was a southpaw. Floyd didn't have too much trouble dominating him.

Cory Spinks is the John Ruiz of the middle weight classes. Boring, always thinks he deserves a title shot, and simply will not go away.

John L Sulivan to Pongsaklek Wonjongkam......:lol1: Anyone? kddkdksdsds

I'm also a big fan of Hearns-Duran. Maybe one of the greatest single punches of all time.

Jack Johnson> Bearcat Wright > Max Baer > Joe Louis > Rocky Marciano > Archie Moore > Muhammed Ali > Larry Holmes > Mike Tyson > Lennox Lewis > Vitali Klitschko Almost every name is a hall of famer or ATG. Careers span from 1897 to present. Can anyone beat that?

Basically, if you can get to Pacquiao you can pretty much link anyone to anyone lol Great point, but not just Pacquiao. Any fighter that stretched weight classes. Oscar, Floyd, Jones Jr., etc.

In the last 10 years, I don't think anything beats this.

For old school.

Pac>Sasakul>Sisnorio>Wonkjongkam Yeah I knew it could be done much faster. I was getting tired by the end. :sleeping:

i personally love seeing ruiz get tua'd. i've seen alot of shit since ive followed this sport, but when i think of sheer ungodly brutal dominance in a knockout - i think of that one. maybe it wasn't as historically significant as either of those you listed, but it was one hell of a knockout and it never ever gets old. It was brutal.

90% of these links have a combination of Hoya>Hopkins>Jones>Ruiz And Pacquiao

I'd like to see Willie Pep to Tye Fields. For some reason.

good thread Ray Robinson's left hook vs Gene Fullmer was a good knockout Robinson has a lot of great ones. That left hook he threw was incredible.

I have never liked that KO. It looks kind of awkward. Walcott KO of Charles was superb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hZKnQ07IE Really? He lands about 8 clean punches from different angles. I love it.

John L Sullivan > James Corbett > Jame Jeffries > Jack Johnson> Bearcat Wright > Max Baer > Joe Louis > Rocky Marciano > Archie Moore > Muhammed Ali > Larry Holmes > Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield > John Ruiz > Roy Jones Jr. > Bernard Hopkins > Oscar De La Hoya > Manny Pacquiao > Jorge Solis > Cristobal Cruz > Cornelius Lock > Daniel Ponce De Leon > Celestino Caballero > Steve Molitor > Scotty Olson > Michael Carbajal > Jorge Arce > Vic Darchinyan > Cristian Mijares > Francisco Arce > Jesus Jimenez > Santiago Ivan Acosta > Luis Concepcion > Eric Ortiz > Julio Cesar Miranda > Pongsaklek Wonjongkam There's probably a faster way to do this. The jump from Pac to Ponsaklek was ridiculously hard.