Floyd keeps on saying he has a perfect record.
But does he really have a perfect record?
Or a flawed perfect record?
Watching Floyd vs Castillo 1, you can see who won in that fight really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdJ170hHqk
If you watch this link @ 2:59 Leddermans scorecard 115-111 for Castillo
7 rounds Castillo, 4 rounds mayweather and 1 even.
A lot of booing in the post fight
Jim Lampley says " not the fight we saw" after the announcement that Floyd won. Stating how it should have been Castillo.@ 4:18.
Compubox numbers @ 4:37
Landed: 203 for Castillo
157 for Floyd
@ 7:15
Larry Merchant says to Floyd a lot of people here think He (castillo) won the fight, that he should get a rematch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0rmBg5k_l4&feature=related
@ 0:47
Larry Merchant goes," I don't think there is much controversy. I think most people thought Castillo won."
@ 1:06
Larry Merchant goes, "Arum and I believe that Castillo won the fight." (Bob Arum was Floyd's promoter @ that time)
Knowing that Castillo was Robbed, Mayweather has a questionable perfect record. Should have had a loss.
He keeps on bragging he has a perfect record when clearly he should have a loss in his record against Castillo.
So the saying should go, 41 had tried 1 has succeeded that is Castillo. The first to beat Mayweather.
He keeps on yapping he has a perfect record when we all know it is blemished. It is not how perfect your record is. It is how good your opponent and challenges that you face. All the legends had a defeat in their career, It doesn't make them a lesser man.
But if a yapper keeps on bragging a questionable perfect record.. It just shows how insecure he is about his ability.
Floyd ain't undefeated, he got beat once already. And that's a fact. However you want to spin it he doesn't have a perfect record in the eyes of the boxing fans. We truly know there was once a guy who already beat him and that was Castillo.
Ye castillo did win that fight but didnt get the decision,it happens
Atleast floyd gave him a rematch
Yup, but we all now his undefeated record is flawed. There was a time he lost, and the guy who beat him fair and square was Castillo.
Props to Castillo :439:
and that was a shot Jose Luis Castillo at that! Which obviously benefited Mayweather well in their second fight. Jose beating Mayweather is what made me a big fan of his
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSHS9i48Vk Pac ko'd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus Pac ko'd
Wow, nice vidz :439: You didn't even know he had to weight drain himself a pound on the day of the fight to fight that guy.
He was fighting dehydrated and low on stamina and strength.
Know what happened. He was too big for that division, and he killed himself to make weight. On the day of the fight he was told to lose a pound when he already shrunk himself to make weight. Even if he already squeezed himself to make weight he had to lose 1 more pound.
That in itself killed his fight. Look how dehydrated and weak he looked.
You have 106 posts in this same thread. Why do you continue to shove this topic down our throats?
I just reply to everyones post lol
Geez if you don't like what you see get out of the ****n kitchen lol
You may think he lost but it wont change a thing he still undefeated no matter what you or i say .
name one fighter who is not beatable any fighter can lose for a number of reasons
"name one fighter who is not beatable any fighter can lose for a number of reasons" - exactly your man is beatable. Got you there brah!
This thread is all about seeing the light that your man Floyd can be beat and has been beat :fing02:
No just my humble opinion brah, and to a lot of people who believe so to.
Pac and JMM was a close fight, I even called it a draw.
But Mayweather Castillo 1, it is clear as night and day Castillo was the champion that night. You don't have to agree with me just my humble opinion.
Btw, pac never said his undefeated, it is only Floyd who keeps on bragging about it.. He promotes himself as invincible but in fact there was a pro fighter who already beat him.
That is Castillo.:439:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSHS9i48Vk Pac ko'd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus Pac ko'd
The hypocritical situation is this: Pac's fans say either Pac or JMM could've won...the fight was that close...,but when it comes to Floyd, Floyd clearly lost fight 1 against Castillo. Thatfight wasn't close at all. You make the call!
No just my humble opinion brah, and to a lot of people who believe so to.
Pac and JMM was a close fight, I even called it a draw.
But Mayweather Castillo 1, it is clear as night and day Castillo was the champion that night. You don't have to agree with me just my humble opinion.
Btw, pac never said his undefeated, it is only Floyd who keeps on bragging about it.. He promotes himself as invincible but in fact there was a pro fighter who already beat him.
That is Castillo.:439:
The hypocritical situation is this: Pac's fans say either Pac or JMM could've won...the fight was that close...,but when it comes to Floyd, Floyd clearly lost fight 1 against Castillo. Thatfight wasn't close at all. You make the call!
Floyd keeps on saying he has a perfect record.
But does he really have a perfect record?
Or a flawed perfect record?
Watching Floyd vs Castillo 1, you can see who won in that fight really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdJ170hHqk
If you watch this link @ 2:59 Leddermans scorecard 115-111 for Castillo
7 rounds Castillo, 4 rounds mayweather and 1 even.
A lot of booing in the post fight
Jim Lampley says " not the fight we saw" after the announcement that Floyd won. Stating how it should have been Castillo.@ 4:18.
Compubox numbers @ 4:37
Landed: 203 for Castillo
157 for Floyd
@ 7:15
Larry Merchant says to Floyd a lot of people here think He (castillo) won the fight, that he should get a rematch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0rmBg5k_l4&feature=related
@ 0:47
Larry Merchant goes," I don't think there is much controversy. I think most people thought Castillo won."
@ 1:06
Larry Merchant goes, "Arum and I believe that Castillo won the fight." (Bob Arum was Floyd's promoter @ that time)
Knowing that Castillo was Robbed, Mayweather has a questionable perfect record. Should have had a loss.
He keeps on bragging he has a perfect record when clearly he should have a loss in his record against Castillo.
So the saying should go, 41 had tried 1 has succeeded that is Castillo. The first to beat Mayweather.
He keeps on yapping he has a perfect record when we all know it is blemished. It is not how perfect your record is. It is how good your opponent and challenges that you face. All the legends had a defeat in their career, It doesn't make them a lesser man.
But if a yapper keeps on bragging a questionable perfect record.. It just shows how insecure he is about his ability.Take your pic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSI-TnZD2LY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jzIhUZcg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSHS9i48Vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTKD4DNYTd4
Nope, that's why fights that a boxer don't truly deserve to win gets an asterisk beside there record.
We now to damn well judges can be bought, and has done so many shocking dumbfounded calls in the history of the sport. Main reason is, so that a fighter can improve his career win and look good on paper.
But boxing historians and writer can't be fooled. They now who truly won and would write and talk about it and put in history.
So Floyd may have an undefeated record but we all know he lost once. And we also know he ain't unbeatable, coz a long time ago a fighter named Castillo already proved he can be beat. :439:
You may think he lost but it wont change a thing he still undefeated no matter what you or i say .
name one fighter who is not beatable any fighter can lose for a number of reasons
people want floyd to lose so bad..they create imaginary loses..lol..
I don't think Floyd won that bout, but its an opinion, I hope you seen the fight atleast....Nonetheless perfect records don't tell the full story, but Floyd is a great fighter, he has one loss (or not really, but you know what I mean) but he came back and beat Castillo the 2nd time around. I consider Floyd the overall better fighter during that time period.
The problem with punchstats is they don't account for scoring. Even if you win rounds big (like Glen Johnson against Dawson 1), it doesn't mean you necessarily win the fight. Boxing is scored on rounds not punches.
That being said, I'm not disputing anything here, just that you can't decide a fight strictly on numbers.
Yup we know that. The thing is Castillo really won he had more punches and the harder punches thrown per round. In the end Castillo won by 2 round for sure or even more in some people's eyes.
It's just the way it is, floyd was coming up, he was smaller weaker than Castillo and Castillo the bigger guy over powered him and made him fight not box, and we all now that's Castillo's forte. His always been a fighter boxer.
The problem with punchstats is they don't account for scoring. Even if you win rounds big (like Glen Johnson against Dawson 1), it doesn't mean you necessarily win the fight. Boxing is scored on rounds not punches.
That being said, I'm not disputing anything here, just that you can't decide a fight strictly on numbers.
what you said is ok but your opinon or my opinon dont count toward a fighter recorded the only opinons that count are the Judges.
Nope, that's why fights that a boxer don't truly deserve to win gets an asterisk beside there record.
We now to damn well judges can be bought, and has done so many shocking dumbfounded calls in the history of the sport. Main reason is, so that a fighter can improve his career win and look good on paper.
But boxing historians and writer can't be fooled. They now who truly won and would write and talk about it and put in history.
So Floyd may have an undefeated record but we all know he lost once. And we also know he ain't unbeatable, coz a long time ago a fighter named Castillo already proved he can be beat. :439:
Floyd is undefeated by record yes, did he lose that fight? Yes in my eyes and others also. But I understand where your heart is. Being a Tito fan I know that mofo lost to Delahoya but was happy he got the win. people get robbed plain and simple, just like what was it the Holyfeild/Lewis fight. I was so pissed I called up don kings office and left some nasty messages.
If you accept it or not I could care less thats your opinon and I respect it. But he did lose and thats mine so respect mine as I will yours.
what you said is ok but your opinon or my opinon dont count toward a fighter recorded the only opinons that count are the Judges.
son, listen no matter how many times you say floyd is not undfeated....everyone knows he is....stop being in denial and just live with it
Floyd is undefeated by record yes, did he lose that fight? Yes in my eyes and others also. But I understand where your heart is. Being a Tito fan I know that mofo lost to Delahoya but was happy he got the win. people get robbed plain and simple, just like what was it the Holyfeild/Lewis fight. I was so pissed I called up don kings office and left some nasty messages.
If you accept it or not I could care less thats your opinon and I respect it. But he did lose and thats mine so respect mine as I will yours.