Lmao! Aj sells nowhere NEAR 1 mil ppv,not to mention the uk ppv are like 10-20$.
Yes he does, his last four fights have each done over a million ppv buys, U.K ppv is around 25$ Which is why it is successful over here, because it’s affordable, the undercards here are also generally quite good as well which obviously helps the ppv buys too.
I’d prefer Fury to win, but I can’t envision anything other than a Wilder stoppage win anywhere between rounds 6-9....if Fury does win though, we really are looking at the greatest heavyweight comeback of all time imo.
Yeah Fury was out briefly there’s no doubt about that, however team Wilder can’t complain about it, back in March when Ortiz had Wilder out on his feet they inexplicably gave him extra time for a breather...Swings and roundabouts.
Wilder was never even down. Not comparable.
Fury was sleeping. With his hands up reaching for Jesus.
I never said Wilder went down, he was out on his feet and I was using that as an example to explain why team Wilder or his fanboys can’t complain about the extra time the ref gave Fury, plus it was an extra 5-10 seconds max.
Wilder was given an extra couple of minutes, he can’t complain and neither can you bro. Because Ortiz would have sparked out his ass if not for that inexplicable extra break.
Plus stop trying to take away from Fury’s performance, it says more about Wilder really, he was exposed and couldn’t compete with a 70% fit Fury.
AJ been avoiding him for years? LOL Well that’s a lie as Joshua only became world champ last year so he’s absolutely wrong there...I agree team AJ don’t seem keen right now with a potential Fury fight (much bigger payday) looming, but asking for 50/50 right now is ridiculous and doesn’t help his cause.
While Saunders was very impressive on Saturday, he was fighting a very limited fighter (who can punch) so he was always going to look like a world beater providing he didn’t get caught early with something.
He would most definitely lose the battle of the jabs against GGG and unlike Lemieux, Golovkin has very good footwork and leg balance so I do think Golovkin would still beat him.
The Canelo fight is tough one to judge, If Saunders kept it at long range he could have a lot of joy, inside and at mid range however and I think Canelo would light him up.
Unlike Saturday he definitely ain’t getting a decision against either. (unless in the UK)
Will he land punches on Floyd? Most probably...will Conor land his hurtful meaningful punches? Unlikely for me
He keeps talking about being awkward and his power, but floyds faced punchers who hit much much harder than mcgregor and faced fighters who are difficult and unorthodox and he always figures them out.
I expect him to have fully figured out mcgregor by a round or 2 and I expect him to surprise a few people and stop Conor late when he gasses.
Bookies even Irish bookies Paddy Power have a Floyd stoppage as the most likely outcome.
He should stop him. 100%
If he doesn't Floyd's lost imo and let the sport down a little bit too.
100% agree, for me if Conor lasts any longer than 10 and Shocked...yeah there's really a lot riding on this fight.
Haye isn't beating Joshua or Ortiz or Wilder.
Like I said in the previous response AJ and fury would beat him, Lol but the same Ortiz that struggled with Dave Allen haha,,,,also like I said before you can't just judge fighters of their last fights boxing never quite works that way.
Joshua would destroy Haye. Tyson beats Haye to a pulp when in shape and off alcohol and coke. The rest of the heavies would be open game and a fair test for Haye except Wlad who kept haye on his knees. Haye beats Hughie who is terrible. But Bellew stinks.
Your spot on about fury, haye has never wanted any part of fury, and yeah AJ beats him now, but it's not as clear cut as with fury.
A over the hill Haye still deals with everyone else imo. Bellew was just fortunate with what occurred on that night, taking nothing away from him.
Both haye and Bellew are scrub trash boxers with little talent. Let these two dimwitted average Brits have a go at it again with no one watching. Why give either of these stiffs a shot at Parker's Bull crap fake title cheap belt?? Haye and Bellew are toilet paper not worth the thought.
Haye average? Past it...yeah most definitely...average? Lol No chance, sorry mate but you can't call a former undisputed cruiserweight champ average lol he's one of the best fighters to come from the U.K.
Don't get me wrong there's a lot to dislike about Haye, and I agree he should just retire, but I still think he's good enough to beat the majority of the current heavyweights,,,which tells us a lot about the skill level of the current bunch.
Can't see it being that much, the ppv buys will be high in the U.K if they stay within the usual boundaries, I know what they want to maximise their earnings but I can't see any of the bug U.K tv companies (sky, BT, ITV) agreeing to that.
I suppose they could do without the uk money but I doubt Floyd will want to go that route lol.
When Haye was fighting he was the second best heavyweight in the world, bar none.
He was obnoxious, primadonna ****... but he was also the second best heavyweight.
Yeah spot on which is what I was trying to say too
Haye wasn't undisputed cw champ.
Yeah Your right my mistake, but he held the wbc, wba and the wbo and the ring mag belt, and beat the best so in my eyes he was.
Haye ain't beating most heavyweights. Haye probably beats the vastly overrated unskilled over hyped done nothing in boxing worthless Hughie Fury though. Haye doesn't beat the top Cruisers now. Good for a laugh though.
Other than AJ, who would he really struggle to beat?, maybe wilder and Ortiz due to their size.
I'd fancy haye to beat Parker and fury, if your basing this off his bellew defeat,,,well we all know boxing never works like that.
Haye losing to average Bellew proved Haye sucks at heavy,
I get what your saying but I don't really rate any of the current heavyweights in high regard,and if you go back to my original post that's the main reason why imo Haye would always have a chance against the current bunch.
Casuals don’t comprehend the difference in punching between boxing and mma. The torque, the kinentic linking, the turning/digging off the knuckle at the end of the shot etc.
Conor hits hard for mma, hits like a ***** compared to a top 154 pound boxer. Watch charlo hit the bag, then watch mcgregor hit the bag. Floyd will walk through him.
Best comment on this thread, spot on my friend, been trying to say this to countless casuals/Mcgregor nuthuggers...they'll find out what time it is on Saturday though.
Ortiz didn't take a sustained beating like Wilder did in that round dip shieet. You expose yourself as a casual with literally every syllable you type.
Everybody who isn't a casual knows that taking a sustained beating is much worse for your mental health than simply getting dropped or knocked out.
Oh right because Wilder suffered a sustained beating? You’re an idiot. A sustained beating is over a period of rounds clown not one round. He was out on his feet and they jumped in with the doc to give him extra time to recuperate this is very obvious.
You have multiple people telling you this and you call us the casuals, another uneducated fanboy bites the dust and gets blocked for life, get your tongue out of Wilders ass.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mZs7qRSOI
Here's your video. 37th minute of the video, the doctor signals the ref at the start of the round to call a time out, and the ref calls a time out so that the fighter can be checked.
This is happens in a Kovalev fight too with no American fighter involved.
Now go eat a dic like the sisssy that you are, crying and wining like a pucy about the ref and doc following the rules like they supposed to.
I better not see you around here regurgitating that bull shieet again.
Wow absolute donut, yes we know for cuts dip****. Did wilder have a cut? You’ve just embarrassed yourself again clown, jump out of Wilders ass and give your head a wobble.
It is in the rules dummy. If the fighter was badly hurt in the previous round then the commision's doctor has the discretion to check on the fighter. The rule was put there to prevent deaths and serious, life changing injuiries being incurred by fighters.
The fact you don't know his speaks volumes about your knowledge about this issue.
Some advice: make sure you know the issue you're discussing before engaging.
You’re talking nonsense, I’m not salty about anything as I am a boxing fan not a fanboy like you, I don’t worship fighters. I responded to point about that fight, I credit Wilder for his performance but if you can’t see that he got gift from the doc (and we all know why), then your either a fanboy or you have an agenda.
To end this, show us some footage where that happens, you said or alluded that extra doc breaks common practice it shouldn’t be hard for you to find something.
Inexplicable? It's in the godam ny rules dumb ass and if you weren't a casual you would know it's so commonly done in NY nobody even bats an eye lash about it, unless of course you're Deontay Wilder
Wow so now it’s New York rules? Stop smoking crack.
Why didn’t Ortiz get an extra break then when he got hurt? There are so many fights that happen in NY and that doesn’t happen so for you to say that is scary and embarrassing...you clowns with the agenda need to give your head a wobble. You’re Dangerously stupid bro.
The doc can check for concussion too dumb dumb.
Yawl just won't quit embarrassing yourselves will you?
Like I said, I better not see you fools regurgitate this garbage again. Yawl been exposed, go hide in a closet somewhere.
So why didn’t Ortiz get a concussion check dip****? You know considering his head bounced of the canvas 3 times in that fight, you’re a clown and exposed your blatant bias and agenda.
This is what happens when you skip school and like I said before stop smoking crack and go get some fresh air.
Are you crazy?
Ortiz almost stopped Wilder.
Imagine what Ortiz would've done to AJ.
He wouldn't have climbed off the canvas four times, he would've been out cold.
You’re absolutely right, the only reason Wilder didn’t get stopped is because he got that inexplicable extra break before the start of round 8...A huge talking point which one one here seems to mention.
But in terms of this rematch this should be easy work for Wilder, the dinosaur that is Ortiz is another year older this fight should end inside 6 imo.
Wilder is a walking comedy show, he's almost as bad as Fury when it comes to the daily contradictions.
He's so easy to manipulate, Haymon and Finkel must chuckle to themselves daily sadly, he literally regurgitates the BS they drip feed him and the fanboys literally take it all as gospel, choosing to ignore or play dumb about the alarming contradictions.
See why doesn't AJ say something like that towards Wilder to put DW on notice!! Or post a video on IG calling Wilder out, like Spence calls out Thurman or GGG and Canelo trade words back and forth. Nah Dillian Whyte and freaking Eddie Hearn does all the talking for him. When Wilder threatened to come into the ring after the Parker fight AJ should have told Wilder "if you step inside this ring I'll drop yo p**k @$$" but NO what does AJ do as the unified heavyweight champ of the world?? He hired extra freaking security to prevent Wilder from coming into the ring and also got Hearn to offer Dillian Whyte as a sacrificial lamb before he could fight Joshua. Then AJ turns down a potential 80 million dollar fight!! Come on AJ grow some b@lls kid you're letting a former drug addict like Tyson Fury show you how a real champion acts. He's fresh out of rehab and is calling out a certified knockout artist after only two fights. Not to mention Fury schooled Klitschko without taking much damage at all, while Klitschko nearly ended you after a two year layoff lol haha... AJ you should have stepped up to the plate and took Wilder's belt instead of ducking.
Lmao, well you know it’s best he’s stays out of all this BS, as we both know he has got a fight in less than a months time, which has banana skin written all over it.
You Wilder fanboys are praying that this fight happens because if it doesn’t,,,it looks bad and I mean REAL BAD, and it will reveal what everyone with a brain thinks and knows that this was just a smear campaign and a publicity stunt to raise the profiles of both Wilder and Fury.
P.s would love to see the fight tho, it’s just strange that Wilder won’t sign contracts with no date or venue for AJ (fair enough) but will happily sign a contract with no venue or date for Fury....strange stuff.
Who the hell is Dubois????
Ignore bro, he’s a very very raw talented heavyweight from the U.K, 19 years old, with very little amateur exp, no where near being ready to fight the big boys, promoted by Frank Warren.
Who wins ortiz or whyte forget resumes. We are talking boxing. man vs man resumes dont fight for you. Who you got
I don’t know bro, that’s a true 50/50 imo, Ortiz has very good hand skills but is hittable and has poor feet, Whyte has poor feet and balance but has good hand skills too.
That’s a tossup fight in my view, you’d edge Ortiz for his power, but he’s a dinosaur so I’d probs pick Whyte to stop him late if it happened, only due to age though, but yeah.
Who's records better
Wilders record is better 40-0 with 39 k.o.'s
Nonsense, AJ fought way better opposition in half the fights facts.
Took more risks, hence his rewards and been moved way quicker by his team in comparison to Wilder’s team.
They both had a similar amount of amateur fights and yet look at the stark contrast in their careers so far, quit the BS.
What risks... you cant become the man by beating the man somebody else beat for the belts.. When he didnt beat the champion for those belts they were vacant klitsko was not the celebrated champ he once was when he fought joshua... He already had lost the belts an everyone knew it was his last fight.. Parker wouldn't last 12 with wilder an he knows it thats why he chose joshua an boy did they stink up the place. he wouldnt fight wilder like klitsko wouldnt fight wilder either... He had a belt klitsko didnt want his belt he fought the gypsy king an lost all the belts for a shot at nothing in return instead of risking being undisputed heavyweight champ... Klitsko knew about wilder from sparring so he wanted no parts of the man he beat silly for years in sparring.. Klitsko virtually made wilder into the monster he is today
All true about Klitschko but even that version of Wlad is by far and wide better than anyone Wilder has faced in his career.,,,and forget Wlad, he’s beat Whyte, Parker, Breazele, Takam all in 22 fights, anyone arguing that his resume isn’t better or he hasn’t taken more risks is smoking crack...what was Wilder doing after 22 fights? I’ll tell you he was fighting cruiserweights 😂😂
As for Parker, from what I remember he seemed willing to fight either AJ or Wilder, but team Wilder never approached his team so he obviously went for the huge payday why would he not? Earn peanuts against Wilder on regular tv or earn millions on a huge ppv show...no brainer only a moron would decide otherwise.
As for all this Fury hype, it needs to stop, yeah he’s a slick boxer who is very talented, but he’s only fought at elite level once, and other than Wlad has a pretty poor resume, we have no clue whether he can replicate what he did that night in Germany, that’s the only performance we are basing him off.