Comments Thread For: Wilder Warns Joshua, Fury: I'm King in U.S., I've Got The Influence

you can't prove or disprove that someone is prime/semi prime so of course you are going to pretend like you dont know anything just so you can pretend like they were shopworn. unfortunately the results say different. barrera was #1 when they fought and #1 after they fought and not even semi prime? yeah what an argument you have. not fanboying at all. total objectivity there. morales was shopworn because he lost to barrera hmmm he lost to barera years before as well so just when was his prime? never? you also discount the fact that pac fought barrera in his first fight at 126 and morales in his first fight at 130 but smoke and mirrors right? floyd moving up to fight corley and sharmba mitchell is totally the same risk. and of course you didnt read the part where your hypocrisy was exposed because you bashed pac for doing things that are pretty normal while floyd did things that were much worse but i doubt you have a retort for floyds draining of a champ in the same division while calling it smoke and mirrors because a smaller guy fought at a catchweight. welcome to fanboy land. population you :lol1: :lol1:

Believe what you want. I'm not trying to convince you how Pac is. I have better things to do. It has nothing to do with belief. It has everything to do with the facts. You just don't like them. But you don't mind trying to alter facts when it comes to Pac though do you? Don't worry, you could never convince me with your lies and trying to downplay Pac. I have the truth on my side.

May fought a bigger BETTER version of Cotto. Pac's fear of needles made the 1st attempt impossible. Clottey and Margarito would have stood no chance and slowed assed Margarito was able to land at will vs Williams :lol1: So much for Pac's legendary resume Floyd fought a better version of Cotto? Even though Pac fought a prime version, and Floyd fought a clearly past his best version? Oh, right. Haha. Is that why Floyd said Pac had to leave Arum and fight a couple of times on his own promotion to get the fight? Or when Floyd himself said he prolonged the fight until he did to make the money he did? Oh, right. For fighters who supposedly stood no chance, Floyd sure was scared to get in there with them even though fans were calling for the fights. Strange. But don't forget, Floyd was a rich coward. So he at least had the good grace to have some self awareness at one point in his life. Such a shame that it was for only one fleeting moment.

IOW, Everyone Pac beat, May would have nearly killed. And yet, people complain about May never having fought MAB and Eric :lol1: So much for Pac's legendary resume. Duh, Floyd is much bigger than those that Pac mostly fought. A big good 'un always beats a small good' un. Just look at the weight Pac started out as. And I haven't seen nor claim that Floyd should have fought Barrera or Morales. He should have fought those in his own weight class like Williams, Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, Pac when they were at their best. But Floyd being the punk he is, he never fought not one of them when it mattered or at all.

MAB and Eric were serviceable but extremely vulnerable. SHOP WORN fan faves not to mention those fights were like a dozen years ago :lol1: We saw what May did to JMM. If they fought 100x, the outcome would get easier for May every time. To think what May would have done to the SHOP WORN versions of MAB and Eric !!!! As for Cotto, Brave Pac would never have fought him w/o that clause. However, Brave Pac did fight Margarito above ww 2 FIGHTS LATER !!! Smoke n Mirrors, bro. You could say Morales was a bit shop worn, but not Barrera and Marquez. Cotto was still in his prime as well. Yeah, I didn't like the 2 lb Cotto had to cut, but he wasn't a big Welter so I don't think it really mattered. They happened a dozen years ago? So? We're talking about Pac fighting the best and he did. That isn't a lie. These days he's not, but then again he is 40. But who is fighting the very best every time out these days? Yes, we saw what a Welter did to a Lightweight moving up 2 divisions. How great for Floyd. If only Floyd was willing to do likewise and fight the very best in prime Middleweights of the time to show he had the same courage as Marquez. Hell, Floyd wouldn't even fight the very best in prime Welter's of the time, let alone Middlweights. So there is zero glory for Floyd here. Floyd was naturally bigger than Barrera and Morales. So it wouldn't have been an achievement to do so. Pac was actually smaller than those 2 so he gets full credit. We saw what a well past prime Oscar did with a prime Floyd at Lightmiddle. He could only win by 1 point on my card, so it's easy to see what a prime version would have done. And Oscar himself was only a Welter, not a proper Lightmiddle. At Middle, Floyd would have been gobbled up. He knew it too. He also knew he couldn't win against the other Welters either otherwise he wouldn't have ducked them like a punk. He instead waited for them to beat each other up and become past prime or continued ducking them. The only smoke and mirrors career was Floyd's. After the close shave against Castillo, Floyd knew there and then to always pick his battles and made sure he had huge advantages pretty much every time. Him claiming to be TBE while never proving it in the ring was truly pitiful. Only those who have no shame like Floyd would ever defend such cherry picking. Pac was legit and got in the ring with the best. Floyd didn't. He never had the confidence nor the character to do so.

If you think MAB and Eric were prime/semi prime, then there's no sense in us continuing this discussion (I didn't read past that part). May definitely would have beaten EVERYONE Pac fought. you can't prove or disprove that someone is prime/semi prime so of course you are going to pretend like you dont know anything just so you can pretend like they were shopworn. unfortunately the results say different. barrera was #1 when they fought and #1 after they fought and not even semi prime? yeah what an argument you have. not fanboying at all. total objectivity there. morales was shopworn because he lost to barrera hmmm he lost to barera years before as well so just when was his prime? never? you also discount the fact that pac fought barrera in his first fight at 126 and morales in his first fight at 130 but smoke and mirrors right? floyd moving up to fight corley and sharmba mitchell is totally the same risk. and of course you didnt read the part where your hypocrisy was exposed because you bashed pac for doing things that are pretty normal while floyd did things that were much worse but i doubt you have a retort for floyds draining of a champ in the same division while calling it smoke and mirrors because a smaller guy fought at a catchweight. welcome to fanboy land. population you

MAB and Eric were serviceable but extremely vulnerable. SHOP WORN fan faves not to mention those fights were like a dozen years ago :lol1: We saw what May did to JMM. If they fought 100x, the outcome would get easier for May every time. To think what May would have done to the SHOP WORN versions of MAB and Eric !!!! As for Cotto, Brave Pac would never have fought him w/o that clause. However, Brave Pac did fight Margarito above ww 2 FIGHTS LATER !!! Smoke n Mirrors, bro. in pacs first fight at 126 he took on barrera who was the #1 guy. after losing to pac barrera moved up to 130 and became the #1 guy. how is that shopworn? in pacs first fight at 130 he fought morales who was #2. im guessing he was shopworn because barrera had just beat him? yeah how embarrassing! but with your circular logic that barrera was shopworn then obviously a shopworn barrera beating morales must mean morales was shopworn. congrats yes pac fought above ww after establishing he was able to compete at ww effectively. that seems perfectly normal. if he never fought cotto or at ww then there never would have been a margarito fight. its a progression and its completley normal. what isnt normal is there was a guy who was a multiple time champ at 154 but then refused to fight another 154 champ at 154 instead making him fight at 152. pac being champ at 140 and fighting cotto who was champ at 147 wasn't ideal but it was nowhere near the level of what the 154 pound champ did. moving up in weight and fighting great fighters who were at the top of the division is smoke and mirrors but draining guys in you own division isnt?

Do tell, the b/u............ So Cotto, Barrera, Morales, Marquez weren't the best around? Pac even fought the 3 Mexicans numerous times. To say he didn't fight the best around is insane.

Your buddy watched it at Barclays in NY. Everbody else saw it at Staples in LA. hahahaha pwned

Joshua about to headline at MSG and ticket prices are really high. My buddy got $300+ tickets discounted less to less than $55 the week of the Wilder/Fury fight at Barclays. I don’t think Wilder’s team is telling him all the financial facts which makes him think he’s a bigger star than he really is. Your buddy watched it at Barclays in NY. Everbody else saw it at Staples in LA.

Yeah, the big Mexican population didn't buy PPV of Pac fighting their fighters until Floyd was mentioned. Please stop believing this. Pac was the better PPV to buy because he actually fought the best. Floyd just cherry picked them to death. When Floyd fought a fellow American in Berto, it only did about 400,000 buys. Floyd needed that Mexican fan base to sell. Bruh these things are provable. Look up PACs ppvs with Barrera and Morales. They average 350k. Berto was a no hope fight, of course people didn't watch. People thought it was a joke when he said it.

He was doing the numbers that he's doing now, or that Spence, Wilder and Garcia did. He didn't touch 400k-1million until his name was mentioned with Floyd Yeah, the big Mexican population didn't buy PPV of Pac fighting their fighters until Floyd was mentioned. Please stop believing this. Pac was the better PPV to buy because he actually fought the best. Floyd just cherry picked them to death. When Floyd fought a fellow American in Berto, it only did about 400,000 buys. Floyd needed that Mexican fan base to sell.

Wilder warns Joshua lol. In other news.........Luxembourg vows to get tough, warns the USA about it's military power.

You are right that it's because of Deyonce's influence. He and his team have failed to fill the gap in the market left by Mayweather and therefore leaving many dollars up for grabs. The US wants a big star but they don't want a protected bumslaying coward like Deyonce. So Fury and AJ are coming to take all that money instead :lol1: Deyonce is already the B side in his own country.Deontay Wilder is the most famous and recognized fighter and heavyweight champion in the world my good man; Just look it up. It means something to be an American because the whole world takes notice of you. Had he been born in the U.K. Then nobody would have known that he even existed. Damn it feels good to be an American :D

Wilder is right. That is why all the U.K Fighters are now fighting in the U.S because of "The Bronze Bomber's influence. Deontay and America is like the older brother of U.K. Boxing. You are right that it's because of Deyonce's influence. He and his team have failed to fill the gap in the market left by Mayweather and therefore leaving many dollars up for grabs. The US wants a big star but they don't want a protected bumslaying coward like Deyonce. So Fury and AJ are coming to take all that money instead :lol1: Deyonce is already the B side in his own country.

Did he really stand behind Trump? Is he oblivious to the fact that Trump us a racist? This guy has the IQ of a Trump child. He didn’t per se ,he was there as a witness to the Jack Johnson pardon. Still he was vilified for his presence there and he responded to the criticism like any true champ should.... he asked for any of his doubters to say it to his face and see what happens. Then he later blamed the Bronze bomber for those words as Deontay is about peace and love and being nice to kids apart from Brezeale ‘s kids of course

man... the reach of this post... via GIPHY Lololololol...I like that ,even though Champion 4 ever is my guy Edit: the girl in the video looks as stupid as hell but.......

Lol... Bless him he actually means well. I don’t know about him having all this influence maybe him standing behind trump with his bow tie has given him that air of invincibility? Either way nothing crazy here it is actually quite amusing and funny. Nobody listens to this and gets annoyed and angry it just brings either smirk or smile to ones face it’s just when Wilder’s subjects arrive and start saying “he is right” and “it’s true tell them Deontay” what has turned from a pleasurable read soon becomes annoyance and bewilderment Did he really stand behind Trump? Is he oblivious to the fact that Trump is a racist? This guy has the IQ of a Trump child.

Pac made a name for himself due to Mexicans. Americans don't even come into it. Pac was already a big PPV star before the Floyd shlt. He was doing the numbers that he's doing now, or that Spence, Wilder and Garcia did. He didn't touch 400k-1million until his name was mentioned with Floyd

Wilder is right. That is why all the U.K Fighters are now fighting in the U.S because of "The Bronze Bomber's influence. Deontay and America is like the older brother of U.K. Boxing. man... the reach of this post... via GIPHY