TYSON FURY liked what he saw as Billy Joe Saunders dominated David Lemieux on Saturday night. So much so that the former heavyweight champion has tipped him to beat arguably the world best pound-for-pound fighter. Click Here To Read More]
I got an idea send me your address I will have Santa Clause deliver you some cheerleading pom poms that says BJS on them for Xmas
pot kettle black lol
keep thinking that Golovkin would simply walk through Saunders
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I still want a explanation how the punches that bloodied Lemieux and stopped him in his tracks would have no effect on Golovkin
You're talking about Golovkin like he is David Lemieux,, comparing apples to oranges Triple G is a different caliber of fighter and knows how to cut off the ring. Yes Golovkin hits hard but that's not all he is capable of doing he has great technical abilities
Where was that against Brook when he lost all 4 rounds? What about DJ a fight he arguably lost? He didn't do jack shyt to a career welter/jmw in Canelo either when Canelo out boxed him on the ropes and Canelo is not a proven puncher at 160. You're overrating ggg big time, ALL of his opponents land, even Lemieux landed cleaner shots on ggg as opposed to Saunders.
if Golovkin lands little/nothing, and Saunders jabs him up and stops his momentum with counters..... Saunders wins
the only thing more over-rated than power, is P4P
where was his " powah doe " with Jacobs ?
where was it with Canelo ?
keep thinking that Golovkin will simply walk through Saunders punches
I got an idea send me your address I will have Santa Clause deliver you some cheerleading pom poms that says BJS on them for Xmas
LOL BJS stopped him in his tracks? Golovkin stopped Lemieux and his tracks bro. I know you hate the left him because he made your favorite fighter run LOL but don't cheerlead too hard for Billy Joe
if Golovkin lands little/nothing, and Saunders jabs him up and stops his momentum with counters..... Saunders wins
the only thing more over-rated than power, is P4P
where was his " powah doe " with Jacobs ?
where was it with Canelo ?
keep thinking that Golovkin will simply walk through Saunders punches
and you have no idea who my favorite fighter is
you are acting like the punches that bloodied Lemieux and stopped him in his tracks will have no effect whatsoever on Golovkin
also, he did a shht job of cutting the ring off with Canelo
LOL BJS stopped him in his tracks? Golovkin stopped Lemieux and his tracks bro. I know you hate the left him because he made your favorite fighter run LOL but don't cheerlead too hard for Billy Joe
You're talking about Golovkin like he is David Lemieux,, comparing apples to oranges Triple G is a different caliber of fighter and knows how to cut off the ring. Yes Golovkin hits hard but that's not all he is capable of doing he has great technical abilities. David Lemieux looked in horrible shape, weight drained.. his style was tailor-made for BJS
you are acting like the punches that bloodied Lemieux and stopped him in his tracks will have no effect whatsoever on Golovkin
also, he did a shht job of cutting the ring off with Canelo
it is not about having " equal " power..... it is about having enough power to keep your opponent honest
Saunders did not have " equal " power than Lemieux, but he had more than enough on his punches to keep the challenger honest..... how will Golovkin be any different?
You're talking about Golovkin like he is David Lemieux,, comparing apples to oranges Triple G is a different caliber of fighter and knows how to cut off the ring. Yes Golovkin hits hard but that's not all he is capable of doing he has great technical abilities. David Lemieux looked in horrible shape, weight drained.. his style was tailor-made for BJS
Golovkin struggled a little with Jacobs but Jacobs was a quicker man with equal power, BJs is slicker but I don't believe he possesses the power to keep Golovkin honest.....
it is not about having " equal " power..... it is about having enough power to keep your opponent honest
Saunders did not have " equal " power than Lemieux, but he had more than enough on his punches to keep the challenger honest..... how will Golovkin be any different?
and it is not just about power, it is about movement/defence/timing..... the whole package
timing is the key
..... yes Alvarez has the experience vs Mayweather and Lara, but he got schooled by Money May and lost to Lara by one point in my view. I could definitely see your angle though
those experiences were/will be, invaluable
I was confident that the Fury who schooled Wlad would also school Joshua and Wilder... I'm not even 1% confident that Saunders beats GGG - even this older, declining GGG... Saunders has 0 power to keep GGG from just walking him down. GGG also knows how to cut the ring off and will go to the body and he uses a jab. It would be an absolute nightmare of a match up for Saunders.
that is horribly wrong
I heard that said about Saunders before he fought Lemieux
I heard that said about Canelo, before he fought Golovkin
I heard that said about Mayweather, before every single fight over the last 20-odd years, including McGregor :lol1:
don't bet on boxing
I kinda agree with that take, because of style.....
that could be right
but it comes down to millimetres
if Saunders stays " millimetres " ahead of Golovkin, for the whole fight, and is successful..... it could play out similarly to Lemieux..... because Golovkin will not have too many options other than hunt/destroy
Golovkin is not limited, like Lemieux..... but he is a little one-dimensional in his approach/gameplan
I think we would need to see more from Saunders against Canelo..... who is quicker, a more well-rounded fighter, with a bigger bag of tricks and more options up his sleeve
aside from having a better repertoire than Golovkin..... when it comes to slick boxers, Canelo has been in there with Mayweather/Lara/etc..... what slick boxers has Golovkin been in there with?
we don't know how good Golovkin is at executing his primary (only?) gameplan at the top level.....
there is a reason why Golovkin walked away from his biggest possible payday by refusing to negotiate on weight with lil 153lb Cotto..... that was BIZARRE!!
we saw what movement did to Golovkin in the Jacobs fight, and we saw what skills did to Golovkin in the Canelo fight..... Saunders could have a bad combination of both for Golovkin
not really arguing with you, you could be right
Golovkin struggled a little with Jacobs but Jacobs was a quicker man with equal power, BJs is slicker but I don't believe he possesses the power to keep Golovkin honest.. yes Alvarez has the experience vs Mayweather and Lara, but he got schooled by Money May and lost to Lara by one point in my view. I could definitely see your angle though
While Saunders was very impressive on Saturday, he was fighting a very limited fighter (who can punch) so he was always going to look like a world beater providing he didn’t get caught early with something.
He would most definitely lose the battle of the jabs against GGG and unlike Lemieux, Golovkin has very good footwork and leg balance so I do think Golovkin would still beat him.
The Canelo fight is tough one to judge, If Saunders kept it at long range he could have a lot of joy, inside and at mid range however and I think Canelo would light him up.
Unlike Saturday he definitely ain’t getting a decision against either. (unless in the UK)
Canelo hurt Lara with body shots and that's what turned the fight around for him. If like you say Saunders can stay at long range he can beat him. Whether he can I'm not sure.
I was confident that the Fury who schooled Wlad would also school Joshua and Wilder... I'm not even 1% confident that Saunders beats GGG - even this older, declining GGG... Saunders has 0 power to keep GGG from just walking him down. GGG also knows how to cut the ring off and will go to the body and he uses a jab. It would be an absolute nightmare of a match up for Saunders.
I kinda agree with that take, because of style.....
that could be right
but it comes down to millimetres
if Saunders stays " millimetres " ahead of Golovkin, for the whole fight, and is successful..... it could play out similarly to Lemieux..... because Golovkin will not have too many options other than hunt/destroy
Golovkin is not limited, like Lemieux..... but he is a little one-dimensional in his approach/gameplan
I think we would need to see more from Saunders against Canelo..... who is quicker, a more well-rounded fighter, with a bigger bag of tricks and more options up his sleeve
aside from having a better repertoire than Golovkin..... when it comes to slick boxers, Canelo has been in there with Mayweather/Lara/etc..... what slick boxers has Golovkin been in there with?
we don't know how good Golovkin is at executing his primary (only?) gameplan at the top level.....
there is a reason why Golovkin walked away from his biggest possible payday by refusing to negotiate on weight with lil 153lb Cotto..... that was BIZARRE!!
we saw what movement did to Golovkin in the Jacobs fight, and we saw what skills did to Golovkin in the Canelo fight..... Saunders could have a bad combination of both for Golovkin
not really arguing with you, you could be right
most importantly we saw what 2 crooked judges did to golovkin in the alvarez fight.
to be fair golovkin gave up 2 of the first three rounds by not doin jack
BJS style would be a nightmare more for Canelo than Golovkin,, Alvarez gets more frustrated when he has to move forward and Chase Fighters,, Golovkin is designed to fight moving foward. Alvarez likes his prey to walk towards him unless your name is GGG.
I kinda agree with that take, because of style.....
that could be right
but it comes down to millimetres
if Saunders stays " millimetres " ahead of Golovkin, for the whole fight, and is successful..... it could play out similarly to Lemieux..... because Golovkin will not have too many options other than hunt/destroy
Golovkin is not limited, like Lemieux..... but he is a little one-dimensional in his approach/gameplan
I think we would need to see more from Saunders against Canelo..... who is quicker, a more well-rounded fighter, with a bigger bag of tricks and more options up his sleeve
aside from having a better repertoire than Golovkin..... when it comes to slick boxers, Canelo has been in there with Mayweather/Lara/etc..... what slick boxers has Golovkin been in there with?
we don't know how good Golovkin is at executing his primary (only?) gameplan at the top level.....
there is a reason why Golovkin walked away from his biggest possible payday by refusing to negotiate on weight with lil 153lb Cotto..... that was BIZARRE!!
we saw what movement did to Golovkin in the Jacobs fight, and we saw what skills did to Golovkin in the Canelo fight..... Saunders could have a bad combination of both for Golovkin
not really arguing with you, you could be right
BJS style would be a nightmare more for Canelo than Golovkin,, Alvarez gets more frustrated when he has to move forward and Chase Fighters,, Golovkin is designed to fight moving foward. Alvarez likes his prey to walk towards him unless your name is GGG.
Hmm. Can see Golovkin walking through a lot of Billy's work. Would be interesting to see BJS trying to fend him off and not get cornered. If he can do that for 12 frames with a good work rate, then he's in with a real shot.