Well then here you go, a quote from Dan's chat a week ago about the numbers. You know, since he's the most credible.
Dan Rafael (12:24 PM)
I have been in touch with Richard Schaefer and HBO regularly. They simply do not have enough data yet from some huge systems to make an accurate report of the numbers. What people dont realize is that when numbers are announced they are done based on years of experience and extrapalation of numbers based on comparing fights to other similar fights and totals in certain markets. For whatever reason this fight has been harder than others. That said both Schaefer and HBO, without saying a specific number they do not have yet, both have told me that without question the fight is well over 1 million buys. The big question is how much over. They want to announce a number that they believe will be close enough to the real number and since it may be 1.3 or more and edge close to 2nd all-time non heavyweight they want to be right. By the same token, it could be 1.2 or 1.25 and not hit 1.3. They just want to be correct from what they both tell me. But the rumors and innuendo that it did poorly is just a load of crap.
So what is it really? 850K? 1.3M? Or just over 1M?
margarito never looked good in any of his post suspension fights. Plus he might be thinking too much of his recently healed, but almost career ending injury. Cotto looks comfortable at the present division. It seems its all pointing to a Cotto victory.
i think hes the same guy who tried to ripped pac off in the first morales fight...
He is the same guy who also ripped off Holyfield I believe in Holyfield's last fight.
the ring belt, because it follows lineal champ lines. plus, being the ring belt champ, there is no "royalty" when you defend the ring belt. The others are classified by all boxing writers as part of the alphabet belts. Among the alphabet belts, the WBC has for the past decades been the more glamorous one. but WBC has diluted its own importance when it came out with the diamond belt, and before that, the intercontinental, then they came out with the youth,...
individual weight classes have more to do with resume and since floyd retired for a couple years it hurt his ranking.
pound 4 pound is mythical
though p4p is mythical, my thinking is that it should follow the same ranking as that in the welterweight division's or vice versa, considering the three fighters all belong to the same division.
doing the polls now will have a different result than when he decides to fight mosley. Right now, he is considered protecting his almighty zero loss record over anything else. If he fights Mosley, opinions may change somewhat, but not entirely, because we really don't know how Mosley will fight now, being 38 years old and not having a fight for year and counting.
another fight under top rank would be the potential rematch between steven luevano and bernabe concepcion, whose last fight August 15, 2009 ended up in a disqualification win by luevano. But this may be hard to do because concepcion is a wild card/roach fighter.
top welterweights for Mayweather are all not available.
1. Pacquiao- deal is off.
2. Mosley- he has ducked Mosley before, and now Mosley has a scheduled fight with Berto.
3. Cotto- He has ducked Cotto before.
4. Clottey- is the target next opponent of Pacquiao.
5. Margarito- he is still suspended.
6. Berto- has scheduled fight with Mosley
promoters nowadays has too much say into who and what fights will happen. They dictate if someone will be fighting for a title or not, making the alphabet titles even more irrelevant. Now, they prefer to keep fights within their stables, because if two fighters from the same stable fight, then the share of BOTH fighters stay with the SAME promoter. Its all about the money, and to hell with the fighters, the public, the titles.
Sergio Martinez, the official light middleweight champion of the world, who holds the wbc 154 belt if he has da balls.
Sergio Martinez or Williams are jr middleweights/middleweights. Mayweather hasn't fought the legit welters and he will go up? At this stage in his career, I doubt it. With the top welters not available, I see him looking at the jr welterweight division for opponents.
mayweather wants to fight for free? And its not about the money? He must have had too much xylocaine and its numbing his brain already.
Mayweather decision to come back came coincidentally with the IRS. Before the IRS, news was all over that his investments in Las Vegas was going down fast as well. So its all about the money.
Crazy show shout out to Tymann23, Burner, Horus, 2501:boxing:, Bully and Bernardo....Lefty
Lefty, just read through this. Was this the episode where you supposedly would be discussing about the thread you made, the one about hbo? Tried the link but its not available now.
margarito can either fight Cotto or Malignaggi, both Top Rank fighters, so it will be easier to work on the details. If its going to be against a GBP fighter, I can already see calls for extra testing and extra inspections. Or Lamont Peterson, Kendall Holt, or Demetrius Hopkins. They are all with Top Rank.
Yup, let's all ask our mums about this and accept their views as gospel. :laff2:
In the end, it's gotta be better than all the biased bullshit that's been spouted by everyone on here. Besides, what mother says... goes. Ain't that just right, fellas?
Mothers know best. Then again, that's just one opinion, based on the facts presented.
that lawyer is a d!ckhead. He has been in the past, and he is showing the same again now. He should be asswh@pped for even using the catchweight strategy. What's his excuse for a catchweight? Pacquiao has settled well in the division.
khan would be the probable guy because he has been in the news about:
1. warren, top rank, and GBP making a pitch for his rights.
http://www.examiner.com/x-11372-Dallas-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m1d12-British-promoter-Frank-Warren-in-for-a-Khan-job-he-wont-like
2. Khan signifying his desire to fight Mayweather, Marquez.