Mayweather-Ortiz only 850,000 PPV buys?

these sources are normally way off Both Iole and Rafael, the ones saying the Mayweather-Guerrero PPV did way less than 1 million, were both on record that Kim's sources were wrong and that the Ortiz PPV was well over 1 mil, in the 1.3 range. Heard this morning that PPV buys for Mayweather could be as low as 850k. How possible is the statement? Dan Rafael (12:59 PM) From what I have been told by Schaefer and HBO that is preposterous. Much higher. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/40534/boxing-with-dan-rafael Kevin IoleVerified account ‏@KevinI From what I'm hearing, Mayweather-Ortiz last night did somewhere around 1.3-1.4 million buys. Still early & that number is preliminary. So their sources were spot on then.

It was Schaefer who said that the numbers would be 90% known by the Thursday after the fight and the final numbers tallied and announced the day after (Friday). He said that it always happens that way and that people in the business know that. Well, it's been way past that time and no announcement....that either means he lied (very likely) or the numbers aren't good.

these sources are normally way off

Says the guy with red k lmao Arum is the MOST CREDIBLE SOURCE cuz he was directly involved with the promotion. He probably already knows that Ortiz-floyd did and is laughing his ass off. Steve kim and fat dan are the next most credible because they are non bias and as journalist have a duty to report the truth. Fighthype is the least credible because its nothing more than a fan-site The fact that its been like 3 weeks and still no numbers mean this fight was a colossial failure GTFOH u noob Someone please tell me how to put this guy on ignore.

They've spent like a billion on advertising and promotion. All roads lead to Money Pacquiao. They spent like a billion? Seriously stay out of grown men's conversation. Stick to romper room

honestly I don't see Cotto Margarito II outdoing the first fight Thats what I mean, economy and streaming also eats some numbers up. But star power of Manny and Floyd is unmatched

Name another fighter that does the same amount of buys that is not Pac or Floyd. The December match up between Cotto/Marg with a better undercard might not even reach half the number and looks all around like the better fight with a drama comming in. honestly I don't see Cotto Margarito II outdoing the first fight

I beleive they did help the PPV #s, one can only wonder how the numbers would look had neither been on the card. I just think the economy mixed with the fact it aint pacquiao. People are just tired of it, they want to see that fight so you expect Manny to outsell Floyd Nov 12th if the 850k is indeed true?

just about a 40% drop if true granted Ortiz is virtual unknown compared to Mosley but this was supposed to be bolstered by appearances of Morales and Canelo I beleive they did help the PPV #s, one can only wonder how the numbers would look had neither been on the card. I just think the economy mixed with the fact it aint pacquiao. People are just tired of it, they want to see that fight

Name another fighter that does the same amount of buys that is not Pac or Floyd. The December match up between Cotto/Marg with a better undercard might not even reach half the number and looks all around like the better fight with a drama comming in.

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i don't care about the money side. I just want to see fights. last time i got excited about a mayweather fight is the hatton one. all the other fights have been trash and you cried after it ended didnt you

By Dan Ambrose: The fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz last month was supposed to have brought in huge numbers on pay per view, according to their promoter Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions. Schaefer predicted the fight would bring in between 1.4 million to 1.7 million PPV buys. However, Steve Kim is reporting that the Mayweather-Ortiz fight brought in only 850,000 PPV buys, which is rather sad given the popularity of Mayweather and all the hype and marketing that went into the Mayweather-Ortiz fight. HBO put together one of their 24/7 series for this fight, and it was advertised constantly on cable. If 850,000 is the best it brought in with all that marketing than it is truly sad. Kim said this on his twitter: “I’ve heard as low as 850,000. Still no PPV figures released for the Mayweather-Ortiz yet, which is very telling.” This isn’t good, is it? If all Mayweather vs. Ortiz brought in was a paltry 850,000 for this fight, it’s going to put Mayweather in a bad bargaining position with Manny Pacquiao, if he ever decides to fight him. With the exception of his fight against Joshua Clottey last year, which brought in only 700,000 PPV buys, Pacquiao has been selling over 1 million PPV buys for each of his fights since then. It will be hard for Mayweather to ask for equal footing in the bargaining table if he’s bringing in low figures like that against a fighter as well known as Ortiz is with the casual boxing fans. It could be the economy in addition to the high price of the Mayweather-Ortiz card scared away a lot of boxing fans from buying the fight. Or it could be they just saw it as a hopeless mismatch and figured Ortiz didn’t have a chance and why pay to see a mismatch? with the exception of his ortiz fight mayweather has been selling well over 1 million ppv buys

WOW!!!!That is truly pathetic based on how much push and hype this fight got!!! Looks like Mayweather isn't as much of a draw as only he likes to think!!!!

honestly I think it's more a sign of the times than any one individual I don't see Manny JMM III doing as well as people think. I would be shocked if it did 1 million buys I don't think Pacquiao-Mosley did a million buys so I wouldn't be too shocked. And you're right, it is a sign of the times. Although if pac-Marquez doesn't too well, I doubt we know about it.

Who's the actual source reporting 850K buys for Mayweather vs Ortiz, Steve Kim? Who was reporting it being around 1.3 Million a week after the fight?

What if Pacquiao-Mosley did that much? Seems like both of their last PPVs fell way below expectations. And to me, the sign the #s haven't been released makes it much more obvious. honestly I think it's more a sign of the times than any one individual I don't see Manny JMM III doing as well as people think. I would be shocked if it did 1 million buys

850K - 150K (Pure Morales fans, Pure Alvarez fans and the numbers Floyd bought to increase it a bit) = Floyd's numbers Actually i believe another 150k are there for Ortiz as well. So 850k - 300k is Floyds real numbers. I think most of his fans have abandoned him.

that's pretty surprising if true. pacquiao fans shouldn't be gloating though. What if Pac-JMM III only does 750,000 buys? What if Pacquiao-Mosley did that much? Seems like both of their last PPVs fell way below expectations. And to me, the sign the #s haven't been released makes it much more obvious.

I am not shocked Ortiz really is not a draw and people just want Mayweather to fight Pacquiao already. Still a drop from 1.4 to 850K is a lot. just about a 40% drop if true granted Ortiz is virtual unknown compared to Mosley but this was supposed to be bolstered by appearances of Morales and Canelo