Southpawkiller

Barry or JK1700??? I wonder who knows more about boxing?????? 100% agree. Barry is one of Europes most respected boxing commentators. I personally dont agree with all of Barry's points on this thread but to insinuate that he is punch drunk and not with it is ridiculous.

Mayweather-Cotto 154 >>>> Pacquiao-Cotto 145 Even Floyd-Cotto @147 >>>>>Pac- Cotto @145

Spot on By Barry. He's britans commentator imho. He's Irish

Then why does he need GBP or Don King or Al Haymon or anyone else for that matter? He did say he was his own boss correct? If so, why not negotiate his own fights? Not a hate or flame thread. This is a serious question. Being your own boss allows you to hire employees and delegate work.

Brock vs Corwin did 1.5m buys. Brock made 400,000 and Corwin made under 100,000. Tito gets 15m for generating 450,000 buys. We should stop hating on Don King for screwing fighters when Dana White is raping fighters. Its ridiculous the money Dana is earning...but if the fighters like Lesnar are that stupid to sign contracts, not representing their true value then its their own fault. Every promoter will try and pay his fighters as little as possible. Dana is a great businessman evern though i dont particularly like him. Letting Chuck Liddell fight on at 40 and years past his prime after making UFC what it is today shows his mercenary instincts...

He had everyting Morales had everything. Speed, Power, Skills, Granite Chin, Heart. He could outbox you if he wanted or else he could beat you by standing toe2toe and just slug it out. His one weakness maybe is that he wa sto brave for his own personal well being. His my favorite fighter of all time below 147lbs.

Either way he meant it, he's wrong. What the hell gives him the right to define what a "true" boxing fan is? Some people only like watching certain fighters, nothing wrong with that. You can still be a boxing fan. If you prefer Mike Tyson style knockouts, that's absolutely fine. If you prefer Mayweather style defensive fighting, great. But just because you are a snob about defensive perfection doesn't make you superior to any other person who watches. Agreed. I just think the TS may have not have meant exactly what is written..otherwise as I said he is delusional. There is nothing better than seeing an all out war between two great fighters such as Morales v Barrera or Morales v Pacman I, but alot of people are ignorant to the skill of defensive technique.

Im sick of all these wanna be fans saying OH FLOYD IS BORING, B HOP IS BORING.....hell if you think hes boring your not a fan of boxing. I dont find any match boring. I found B Hop RJJ 2 fkn fun to watch. I was excited. This BS has to stop if there are REAL boxing fans I think I see where you are going with this but think you just might not have phrased it correctly. If you are referring to the posters who dont appreciate watching defensive based fighters such Bhop, Mayweather, Whitaker etc as not true boxing fans by hating on them just because they cant appreciate the artform that is defense then i understand and agree. BUT if you are saying that every single boxing match is exciting then you are delusional. I am a massive fan of BHOP and love his craft but the second BHOPvRJJ fight was not thrilling. Also you can be a fan of a sport and find certain matchups boring. I am also a massive soccer/football fan but you get some very boring games.

answer this why will he not fight the megafight of tha past 20 years plus. Heres my opinion. PBF vs ODH- decision PBF Pac vs ODH- 8th round retired on his stool 147lb PBF vs140lb Hatton- 10th rd ko 140lbPac vs 140lb Hatton- 2nd rd KO Not to mention that Manny has fought Cotto, Clottey, and soon to be MArgorito and we all know that those are people tyhat Floyd has been avoiding back in the day. and Im not bias bc my fav fighter is Cotto and WArd. I just think its sick that people are still defending Floyd. Mosley 2nd round..if that is not a demonstration of heart, determination and courage i dont know what is...ur comparison of the oscar fights is laughable.

Every great should have a lose on their record if not your always going to get some stick for having a padded record. Dawson has only done himself a HUGE favour by the loss, he can now comeback to redeem himself at the top. It's healthy to taste defeat in your career. I disagree...Marciano and Mayweather are 2 ATG's...and are unbeaten.

I am not attacking the fighters...im labelling the organisation a disgrace. Obviously Manny is going to take every advantage he can i.e. fighting at 150 as opposed to 154. Anyone that wins a title at the legitimate weightclass i.e. no catchweights, earns my respect. Its up to the organisations to prevent this type of abuse happening. Just like the WBO should not have allowed there to be a weight limit of 145lbs for the Manny-Cotto fight.

I see people post floyd never fought a prime great fighter and when i ask them to list what truely great fighters that floyd didnt fight they never answer the question..so can someone list them I hesitated to comment at first because of the 'GREAT' label you put on the thread... I am a Floyd fan and would have liked to have seen him fight Cotto (and still would). But Cotto also never called Floyd out. Manny Pacman: Not going into whose at fault. Just want to see that fight before both are too old. Would like to see him challenge Martinez for the MW strap...that would be interesting... Other than that i cant think of anybody.

Floyd Never fought for a TITLE at a catchweight.. Bernard fought and won the MW and LHW titles at there respective limits. Tarver weighed 175 for their bout... Thread fail.

WayneMcCullough FYI last year Barry McGuigan told me I'd "abandoned" boxing! This coming from my childhood hero. But it really shouldn't have surprised me! 59 minutes ago WayneMcCullough Don't know why boxing ppl keep disrespecting MMA. Boxing promoter Barry McGuigan said recently there's "no dignity in MMA". Totally untrue! Barry McGuigan is from the same place as my dad in Ireland and my dad said during the 1980's he was a hero in Ireland. Your Dad's right. Barry was a terrific fighter. Before my time but i have seen some of his fights. He fought the top guys out there. Wayne is also a legend of the sport. Not as skilled as McGuigan but never have i seen such a chin, heart and courage in all my life. He would absorb shot after shot after shot just to land one. Both are highly respected analysts...Barry being a bit more of a purist. Wayne, liek his fighting style, prefers the more attacking fighters.

130: Joel Casamayor 135: Paul Spadafora, Artur Grigorian 140: Kostya Tszyu 147: Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquaio interesting choices. He did call out Kostya Tszyu. that would have been very interesting. Kostya's power vs Floyds speed. I disagree with Margarito and I think history has shown that. The man has 6 losses on his record including losses to average at best opposition. He got destroyed by Mosley who got whooped by Floyd. I think Floyd would win that UD 12 rounds to nil.

Rubbish. How would you not notice inserts the size that were implanted on your knuckles...even if you were not looking you would surely feel the difference unless your hands were being wrapped like this all along. Marg is a cheat. End of story. He could have ended someones career and arguably ended Cotto's. He has not been the same fighter since. He could have killed somebody and now he is being rewarded a fight for a title he has no right to fight for and be paid millions of dollars in the process.

What he, like any other person spends there money on is his business... I personally wouldnt spend €50k on an ipod even if i had Floyds level of funds at my disposal, but then again maybe he would disagree with how I would spend the money. Each to his own.

* Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather was an obvious win by Floyd. The SD was a disgrace to boxing * Oscar De La Hoya beat Felix Trinidad, Biggest robbery in history * Manny Pacquiao's win over Oscar De La Hoya was overrated. Was a good win but who couldnt beat a weight-drained, past prime fighter in De La Hoya? * Manny Pacquiao's win over Miguel Cotto was also bullshit because Miguel wasnt allowed to be at the Welterweight Limit. And the fight was for Miguels title ...... pretty dam stupid IMO * Ricky Hatton was damaged goods against Manny. Floyd ruined him physically and mentally * CungLe is the biggest douche bag on boxingscene Have to agree with the last point.

Neither Apart from the Floyd fight obviously, would like to see him fight any of the following as oppossed to Marg, who pac will ko easily, winning every round along the way. Mosley, Berto, Williams, Martinez, Bradley, Alexander, Marquez @140. All those fighters imo give Manny a more competive fight and all have some aspect to their game that is better than pacs. The only thing Marg is btr than pac at is getting hit.

He just fought 3 months ago...You have to be inactive for a lot longer than that. If he doesnt fight before May 2011 then maybe you could drop him. Same for Pacman. There streets ahead of the rest so only a declared retirement or sabbatical would justify lowering of their positions.

Mosley offers 40-60 split to fight Pacquiao Reigning World Boxing Association (WBA) welterweight champion Shane Mosley has decided to push the envelope further by offering a 40-60 split in favor of Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao just to be able to fight him. A press release issued by Mosley’s camp said the US boxer has agreed to a smaller purse of 40 percent just to meet Pacquiao in the ring. Mosley’s camp came out with the release after Pacquiao agreed to the WBA champion’s dare for a fight in the 144-pound catch weight. “Now that Manny has stated that he is ready to fight me, the only thing left to finish are negotiations. Richard Schaefer and Bob Arum are working out the details now. I will be ready to fight Pacquiao on October 17th,” Mosley said in a statement. Mosley earlier said in an interview with RingTV.com that he would not allow money to become an issue to make the match possible. “I think we can make it easy. Everyone does the money thing; they want this, they want that. It’s like they try to prevent it from happening,” he said. However, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum said there is no deal yet. "Manny hasn't decided who he's going to fight," Arum said according to LATimes.com. "It could be Mosley, or it could be Cotto, Mayweather Jr., Marquez or Valero. They're all in the mix." Arum insisted that the Filipino will make no decision about his next opponent until after the June 13 world welterweight title fight between Cotto and Joshua Clottey. "Why would I eliminate options?" said Arum, who admitted that he was contacted by Golden Boy Promotion’s Richard Schaefer for the Pacquiao-Mosley fight. Arum said that Team Pacquiao is also waiting for the Mayweather-Marquez fight on July 18 before making a decision. "All that he's said is that he's willing to fight Mosley. But he still has to explore the best deal," said the Top Rank Promoter. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/06/04/09/mosley-offers-40-60-split-fight-pacquiao So much about that Pacquiao ducked MosleY! Lets be honest Mosley dont deserve even 30% against PACMAN! Not having Floyd in your Top 10 P4P rankings sums up your knowledge of boxing and your lack of objectivity.

I know alot of you are gonna E-Jump my ass screaming Henry Armstrong this, crying Ali that, but I don't give a flying fuk! Stop living in the past blabbing about fighters most of you have never even seen fight, and just give a true, present ATG his due respect. If he K.O's the undefeated former P4P King, I place him in the #1 spot ATG!! Best of luck with this...takes balls to put these sort of statemnts up... I disagree, afterall as reported daily on this site, Floyd is a coward, feather fisted, is in decline and has NO legs...and hes going on 34 next year...

The Sun=no credibility The sun is a British Tabloid...its trash...most unrealiable English paper...BS of the highest.

I think Floyd will earn a bit less than 40m from the Mosley fight, but it will still b a huge number.probably around 35m based on the gate and ppv numbers. Floyd imo is the bigger draw, the ppv and gate numbers prove that, but neither i think can earn the same money ie 40m plus each w/o fighting each other...i dont think ppl are willing to spend $55+ to see either one fight mediocre opposition. After Mosley and Cotto there is no1 at 147 that is competive and that is marketable. so 50/50 and OST...Floyd gives Pac $$$, Manny gives into the testing. Fair trade off imo...

Why does it seem to be unacceptable to be a Boxing fan and a floyd fan??? I was a fan of boxing before Floyd was a star and it just so happens his my favourite fighter? Why is that a crime? I was a fan of boxing before he started as a pro and will be after he retires. People need to stop hating. Its retarded.

For you to fight Manny Pacquiao you have to be over the hill.Is there any fighter whom Pacquiao fought but was not Over the Hill in the last 3 yrs? Cotto was not over the hill but was not fighting at his optimal weight. Cotto is still a force. Clottey was not over the hill. Just not good enuf for Manny Hatton/De LaHoya were washed up alright.

Lrry is a prick and a racist. He was throwing cheap shots at floyd all night as usual, discrediting everything he did. Mosley didnt deserve those comments.

Mayorga will tap out first round after hittin the deck...he is not in shape

'pullcounter' u are obviously a pactard..if floyd started fightin the mandatories the wba wud feed him you wud be slating him for not taking on top level opponents.check out the wba rankings.All average fighters below floyd. He is beyond fightin for belts unless it was for the MW strap.

IMO Jim Lampley is an objective, straight up, commnetator who calls it as it is...unlike that old old wooden ship Larry Merchant who is so biased its sickening. Respect for Jim.