answer this why will he not fight the megafight of tha past 20 years plus.
Heres my opinion. PBF vs ODH- decision PBF
Pac vs ODH- 8th round retired on his stool
147lb PBF vs140lb Hatton- 10th rd ko
140lbPac vs 140lb Hatton- 2nd rd KO
Not to mention that Manny has fought Cotto, Clottey, and soon to be MArgorito and we all know that those are people tyhat Floyd has been avoiding back in the day. and Im not bias bc my fav fighter is Cotto and WArd. I just think its sick that people are still defending Floyd.
Pac ko dela hoya who beat floyd even his own father admitted that dela hoya won the fight.
You fail to mention that they were feuding at the time.
If you think that De lahoya won that fight, please, whatever u do, DO NOT, become a boxing judge. There are enough awful ones already. We don't need another one.
Bottom line is that at the end of the day, Pac's resume and accomplishments would forever shiyet on Floyd's.
FACT: Pac is GREATER than Floyd LEGACY-wise.
What's Floyd gonna do about that? Oh yeah... he goes on vacation...LOL!
mayweather didnt lose to hatton/dh, pac lost to marquez and mayweather beat him 12-0
Pac ko dela hoya who beat floyd even his own father admitted that dela hoya won the fight.
cheers for the welcome, was a little nervous! Realise this is a little off topic but it is about heart. What do Americans think of David Haye? Over here he is recognised as a great puncher who was just too athletic for the cruiserweight but picked the only fight at Heavyweight he could hope to win against a belt holding champ. His ducking of the brothers can be compared to Mayweather and Pacquiao. Combination of wanting the right money, right time, not certain of victory for the first time in a long while.
No heart?
He stood right in front of Corrales and showed his heart. Who else was doing that and not getting Ko'd?
Why has he almost always been the smaller fighter, facing bigger men, WITHOUT CATCHWEIGHTS???
How many fighters have u seen walking down Shane Mosley?
That's no heart? Whatever!
I'm new on here and as an Englishman I'm not a huge fan of Mayweather or Pacman as they both destroyed our own fatman Hatton. Mayweather clearly has plenty of heart in the ring as seen by his ability to win even with a broken hand etc liek in the 2001 fight with Carlos Hernandez. The fact the Pacquiao Mayweather fight hasn't happened yet is more of a shame for boxing because it's what fans all over the world want to see. Mayweather may be getting bad advice or whatever out of the ring but to say he ducks fights is a bit far. The guy has enough heart and enough talent to take on anyone - here's hoping the big fight will be in 2011
welcome good post
I'm new on here and as an Englishman I'm not a huge fan of Mayweather or Pacman as they both destroyed our own fatman Hatton. Mayweather clearly has plenty of heart in the ring as seen by his ability to win even with a broken hand etc liek in the 2001 fight with Carlos Hernandez. The fact the Pacquiao Mayweather fight hasn't happened yet is more of a shame for boxing because it's what fans all over the world want to see. Mayweather may be getting bad advice or whatever out of the ring but to say he ducks fights is a bit far. The guy has enough heart and enough talent to take on anyone - here's hoping the big fight will be in 2011
Welcome to the board dude!
I'm new on here and as an Englishman I'm not a huge fan of Mayweather or Pacman as they both destroyed our own fatman Hatton. Mayweather clearly has plenty of heart in the ring as seen by his ability to win even with a broken hand etc liek in the 2001 fight with Carlos Hernandez. The fact the Pacquiao Mayweather fight hasn't happened yet is more of a shame for boxing because it's what fans all over the world want to see. Mayweather may be getting bad advice or whatever out of the ring but to say he ducks fights is a bit far. The guy has enough heart and enough talent to take on anyone - here's hoping the big fight will be in 2011
Again Floyd has no heart.. Safety first big reward fighter.. Thats where Floyd is at in this stage of his career..
i have to admit that every time floyd has been hit hard he came right after his opponent. i think that is heart.
i'm not a floyd fan but guys behind keyboards have less heart
yes he did but he was also fighting him when he was well past his prime, so why didnt he fight shane when shane wanted to fight him 8 years ago? answwer that onme
Floyd called shane and oscar out. Larry Merchant asked Shane would he fight floyd. Shane said no because he wanted to explore other options, which was code for Floyd is real good and has no name so I wont get paid enough. Later, in the same post fight interview, Larry asked Shane again would he fight floyd and shane said he had to get his tooth fixed. Larry looked at him like he was gonna slap the sh!t out of him.
The above is common knowledge. I get that you don't like floyd and think he has no heart. Your entitled to your own opinion. But don't distort facts to make an argument. I see you are relatively new with about 105 posts. Let me first say welcome to the NSB. But make sure you have your facts straight because bullsh!t gets exposed quick round here. Welcome!
Pacquiao is a bloated lightweight according to the pacstans
and didn't he just fight shane Mosley not too long ago
yes he did but he was also fighting him when he was well past his prime, so why didnt he fight shane when shane wanted to fight him 8 years ago? answwer that onme
So not fighting 1 year at age 38 means you are still P4P after beating a fighter without his best arsenal which are his wraps. So Marg wasn't tailor made for Mosely like Hatton was for Pac?
Margarito wasnt coming off a KO loss when Mosley beat him. Hatton was coming off a huge KO loss from Mayweather and was nearly knocked out by Lazcano in his comeback fight in the UK. Margarito even though he cheated to do it was considered the best Welterweight at that time. And Mosley beat him which made him #1 in that division.
As always, Floyd went and fought the guy who was considered the best. And Pacquiao went and fought the guy coming off a huge KO loss at a catchweight. Pacquiao has a pattern of fighting the loser in a big fight and ducking the winner. He did this when Erik Morales was dominated by Zahir Raheem and he also did it when Hatton was knocked out by Mayweather Jr. And now he's doing it again. Fighting the loser of Mosley-Margarito at a catchweight for a vacant belt.
Mosley was a good test for floyd, him finally fighting a big legit welter. But as soon as the match was signed, majority of us fans and even the experts only gave mosley a very slight chance to win. Yes he looked great vs margarito but we can now see that age is catching up on mosley, and vs floyd, floyd was still the heavy favorite. Manny didn't duck mosley, mosley was the fallback for the cotto fight, it was just freddy doing his mind games with mosley..
I don't know how much you go on this forum but everyone was saying Floyd would never fight Mosley. And when it was signed, The opinions were divided. Alot of people (including myself) felt that Shane had a very good chance to win. But of course when Floyd went out there and beat him up 11 rounds to 1 and beat him up in dominant fashion. People make excuses. The reality is that Floyd's opponents have all been very good, They just look bad in comparison to him.
Here's a direct quote from Freddie Roach on Mosley
"Shane came to my gym twice to ask for a fight with Manny. I asked him if he can make 142 or 143 and he said no, So I said ok there is no fight. Firstly because you won't fight us at a catchweight and secondly, your too good of a fighter"
If that's not ducking then I don't know what is.
wasn't he the #3 P4P boxer in the world and the #1 WW?
didn't pacquiao avoid that 38 yo because he was "better then Oscar"
Mosley was a good test for floyd, him finally fighting a big legit welter. But as soon as the match was signed, majority of us fans and even the experts only gave mosley a very slight chance to win. Yes he looked great vs margarito but we can now see that age is catching up on mosley, and vs floyd, floyd was still the heavy favorite. Manny didn't duck mosley, mosley was the fallback for the cotto fight, it was just freddy doing his mind games with mosley..
answer this why will he not fight the megafight of tha past 20 years plus.
Heres my opinion. PBF vs ODH- decision PBF
Pac vs ODH- 8th round retired on his stool
147lb PBF vs140lb Hatton- 10th rd ko
140lbPac vs 140lb Hatton- 2nd rd KO
Not to mention that Manny has fought Cotto, Clottey, and soon to be MArgorito and we all know that those are people tyhat Floyd has been avoiding back in the day. and Im not bias bc my fav fighter is Cotto and WArd. I just think its sick that people are still defending Floyd.
Your a serious idiot. Floyd didnt duck any of those guys. Arum kept Cotto away from Floyd and Margarito and Clottey arent even in his league. They are bums and neither can draw for sh*t. You might also want to consider that Cotto was coming off a huge KO loss and Pacquiao's next opponent Margarito is also coming off a huge KO loss. Pacquiao has this trend of fighting people on the decline wheras Floyd does the opposite and fights the best when they are the best.
Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya are just a few examples. And the "Floyd has no heart" is a load of crap too. He fought 6 rounds against Carlos Hernandez with a broken hand and still managed to easily win the fight.
answer this why will he not fight the megafight of tha past 20 years plus.
Heres my opinion. PBF vs ODH- decision PBF
Pac vs ODH- 8th round retired on his stool
147lb PBF vs140lb Hatton- 10th rd ko
140lbPac vs 140lb Hatton- 2nd rd KO
Not to mention that Manny has fought Cotto, Clottey, and soon to be MArgorito and we all know that those are people tyhat Floyd has been avoiding back in the day. and Im not bias bc my fav fighter is Cotto and WArd. I just think its sick that people are still defending Floyd.
Mosley 2nd round..if that is not a demonstration of heart, determination and courage i dont know what is...ur comparison of the oscar fights is laughable.