I see people post floyd never fought a prime great fighter and when i ask them to list what truely great fighters that floyd didnt fight they never answer the question..so can someone list them
You must have done a search of all the guys who were champions in the 130 to 140 pound division around the time Floyd was fighting in those divisions because you obviously have no clue who the great fighters were at that time.
Casamayor was considered the equivalent of David Diaz (the belt holder that Pac beat 135) in the 130 pound division when Floyd fought in that division. The difference was that Floyd fought the best fighters in the division (Diego Corrales) instead of the fourth best like Pac did in fighting Diaz. Who the **** is Artur Grigorian? That must be a joke. Spadafora was in prison when Mayweather moved up to 135 and beat Castillo twice. Mayweather called Kostya Tszyu out at the same time he call out Cotto at 140. Tszyu chose to fight Hatton (who also dodge Floyd at 140) instead. I won't waste my time talking about the others. They have been discussed enough.
But keep up the research. It actually makes you look less retarded than the other Pactards.
Diego Corrales was old and Casamayor won 2 of the 3 fights with him
if floyd never fought phillip ndou(slick black fighter), justin juuko(slick black fighter), or victoriano sosa(slick black fighter) then they would have become great fighters but floyd destroyed them. instead of a floyd vs pac superfight we would be talking about a ndou vs juuko superfight and why is juuko demanding blood tests etc....
People also really didn't bring up size when saying Gatti had a chance, they said Gatti had the power to hurt Floyd and if he can make it a war Floyd is in for a rough fight.
That is how I remember it anyways.
You are correct, some said that Floyd moving up may give him problem, but most who knew the sport figured that Floyd was way too skilled for the 6 losses Gatti.
I personally thought Buddy Mcgirt's trainning would allow Gatti to survive the 12 rounds without getting as many pot shots as hid receive. But Kellerman hit the nail on the head before the fight, he said it was going to lopisded, i thought it would be boring 12 round decision for Mayweather.
As far as both starting as SFW, Gatti was barely over the FW division when he started, my point was that size was not a major issue.
People also really didn't bring up size when saying Gatti had a chance, they said Gatti had the power to hurt Floyd and if he can make it a war Floyd is in for a rough fight.
That is how I remember it anyways.
CLOSE THREAD/:owned:
PLEASE
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It means nothing, he didnt fight them and fought guys like Gatti and Sosa instead. He also said Pacquiao just needed to contact him to fight him- he said that to sky sports and said it would be an easy fight. Look at how the 2 negotiations went? He couldnt sign an easy fight for 50 million.
LOL, but i still keep you on my friends list.
The boxing fans wanted to see Mayweather vs Gatti. A lot of people even said Gatti was too big and questioned if Mayweather can take Gatti's punches. These threads are long gone now but I do have them bookmarked for when I see posts like these trying to belittle Mayweather's win over Gatti.
Gatti didn't even start as Junior Welter, and even Max Kellerman before the fight that it was one of the most lopsided PPV events ever, i remember those were his own words. I didn't belittle his win, FLoyd himself belittle the win. He said Gatti " had 6 losses, no skills, and was a paper champ.
Those who talked about size were stupid, as Gatti is actually smaller than Floyd and started his career in a lower weight class than Floyd. If you say that Floyd started as a SFW than what does that make him fight a guy who started as a peso pluma or Featherweight?
floyd fought 2 eliminators just to get a fight with gatti. yep gatti. don't believe that flomo garbage about him calling out tszyu or tszyu ducking him. if floyd wanted tszyu the fight would have been made. instead floyd waited for him to lose just like he did with cotto and is currently doing with pac.
Not that simple Tszyu was on Showtime and Floyd was on HBO, they werent big enough names at that point to make it worth their while to team up and make that happean. Not to mention all of Tszyu's injury woes, mandatory concerns (Mitchell) and then unexpected lost to Hatton to never fight again.
Gatti was an HBO guy and there wasn't much of a window for the Tszyu fight~
floyd fought 2 eliminators just to get a fight with gatti. yep gatti. don't believe that flomo garbage about him calling out tszyu or tszyu ducking him. if floyd wanted tszyu the fight would have been made. instead floyd waited for him to lose just like he did with cotto and is currently doing with pac.
The boxing fans wanted to see Mayweather vs Gatti. A lot of people even said Gatti was too big and questioned if Mayweather can take Gatti's punches. These threads are long gone now but I do have them bookmarked for when I see posts like these trying to belittle Mayweather's win over Gatti.
130: Joel Casamayor
135: Paul Spadafora, Artur Grigorian
140: Kostya Tszyu
147: Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquaio
All were good but not great. Manny Pacquiao would be a great fighter that I want to see Floyd against.
Edit: Just noticed Margarito and Grigorian.
Okay, Margarito is a cheating bum. He was never good. Gregorian who?
Cotto is good against B level fighter.
You must have done a search of all the guys who were champions in the 130 to 140 pound division around the time Floyd was fighting in those divisions because you obviously have no clue who the great fighters were at that time.
Casamayor was considered the equivalent of David Diaz (the belt holder that Pac beat 135) in the 130 pound division when Floyd fought in that division. The difference was that Floyd fought the best fighters in the division (Diego Corrales) instead of the fourth best like Pac did in fighting Diaz. Who the **** is Artur Grigorian? That must be a joke. Spadafora was in prison when Mayweather moved up to 135 and beat Castillo twice. Mayweather called Kostya Tszyu out at the same time he call out Cotto at 140. Tszyu chose to fight Hatton (who also dodge Floyd at 140) instead. I won't waste my time talking about the others. They have been discussed enough.
But keep up the research. It actually makes you look less retarded than the other Pactards.
Wrong, He was not in prison at the time do your research MY SON. In fact, even when Mayweather fought Sosa the guy was not yet in prison, go do your research. I have every Floyd fight, so i know what was going on. He went to jail a short time after Floyd fought Sosa.
To compare Diaz and Casamayor is a joke. That even makes you look more like a fool, Casamayor is a bordeline HOF.
The other stuff that is discussed? How even went and fought Arturo Gatti a guy he called a paper champion, how he kept saying how gatti has 6 losses.
Where was the contract offered to Tszyu? Floyd could have moved up earlier instead of fighting Sosa.
Also he got the same from Margarito that was given to Baldomir. The difference was tat Margs called him out face to face and mano to mano, bravo to bravo, any fighter who has a pair would call out that bluff or bravado.
Also he retired after the Hatton fight, when Cotto was undefeated. Cotto after beating Judah and Mosley was more confident and willing to fight Mayweather.
Also the Pac thing is obvious to anyone with common sense, Pac called out May's bluff. 14 day window and 50-50. Unless your a blind flomos filled with red k as yourself than you wont accept the truth.
floyd fought 2 eliminators just to get a fight with gatti. yep gatti. don't believe that flomo garbage about him calling out tszyu or tszyu ducking him. if floyd wanted tszyu the fight would have been made. instead floyd waited for him to lose just like he did with cotto and is currently doing with pac.
You must have done a search of all the guys who were champions in the 130 to 140 pound division around the time Floyd was fighting in those divisions because you obviously have no clue who the great fighters were at that time.
Casamayor was considered the equivalent of David Diaz (the belt holder that Pac beat 135) in the 130 pound division when Floyd fought in that division. The difference was that Floyd fought the best fighters in the division (Diego Corrales) instead of the fourth best like Pac did in fighting Diaz. Who the **** is Artur Grigorian? That must be a joke. Spadafora was in prison when Mayweather moved up to 135 and beat Castillo twice. Mayweather called Kostya Tszyu out at the same time he call out Cotto at 140. Tszyu chose to fight Hatton (who also dodge Floyd at 140) instead. I won't waste my time talking about the others. They have been discussed enough.
But keep up the research. It actually makes you look less retarded than the other Pactards.
Damn son. You straight owned dude :lol1:
130: Joel Casamayor
135: Paul Spadafora, Artur Grigorian
140: Kostya Tszyu
147: Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquaio
You must have done a search of all the guys who were champions in the 130 to 140 pound division around the time Floyd was fighting in those divisions because you obviously have no clue who the great fighters were at that time.
Casamayor was considered the equivalent of David Diaz (the belt holder that Pac beat 135) in the 130 pound division when Floyd fought in that division. The difference was that Floyd fought the best fighters in the division (Diego Corrales) instead of the fourth best like Pac did in fighting Diaz. Who the **** is Artur Grigorian? That must be a joke. Spadafora was in prison when Mayweather moved up to 135 and beat Castillo twice. Mayweather called Kostya Tszyu out at the same time he call out Cotto at 140. Tszyu chose to fight Hatton (who also dodge Floyd at 140) instead. I won't waste my time talking about the others. They have been discussed enough.
But keep up the research. It actually makes you look less retarded than the other Pactards.
Stop naming Tszyu. Floyd was HBO & Tszyu was Showtime. Both guys talked about fighting eachother in there next fight because Tszyu's contract wouldve been up but he lost to Hatton. Thats why the fight didnt happened. If he beats Hatton, then we wouldve had Floyd vs Tszyu.
Someone named Winky and said Floyd ducked him. Dude, Floyd had just fought Gatti at 140 while Winky had just beat Tito at 160. He wanted Floyd to fight him at 154 for 50/50. Do you think Floyd is stupid?