No, actually what im talking about is how easily people flig insults towards America, and fail to remember that without America the free world as we know it would probably not exist...before you spout your nonsense, yes I know America could have never won WWII on its own...but without America's involvement Europe would have been lost....
people ride America so hard...well stop buying Nike shoes...stop drinking Coca Cola/Pepsi products....give up the American clothing companies, yadda yadda yadda....
Good find on the picture Soda...I like to always use all three of them together as "Had the talent to be GREATS, but threw it all away early"...Big fan of all three growing up
http://www.deadspin.com/images/2006/03/goodenstrawtyson.jpg
thanks....I'm a die-hard fan of both the Mets and Tyson, so when i stumbled onto that picture I had to have it lol....but seriously your analysis of the 3 is perfect...in the case of Doc and Straw they had the talent to be the most dominating players at their respective positions possibly of all time...
and Tyson well...even with his downfalls he is one of the all time greats...but for sure had the potential to be THE man....
its a shame about all 3 actually...they acomplished so much as it was...but yet had the potential for SO MUCH more...
I'm the first to defend the US and its contribution to a progressive world. It's not an easy defense to make when some chump trots out the old "We saved your asses in WWII" shite.
its true, is it not?...look its an exaggerated claim to say the least...but Churchill was BEGGING to get the US into the war (granted so was Roosevelt). But honestly if Japan never bombs Pearl Harbor England is lost for sure....hell it says something that we are attacked by Japan, and invade Europe first no?
Is it a 100% accurate claim? no, is it a totally ethnocentric/pro-American way of looking at the war? sure...but I'm in a bad mood tonight and coming to Boxing Scene to read crap about people knocking America set me off...
you mean the same genereration of people that would still call black person a ni__er? or a Japanese person a Jap, or a German a Kraut? The same generation of people responsible for some of the most gross civil rights violations in the history of the world?...yeah....
Honestly, whats wrong with our educational system? would you rather our kids be tracked so hardcore that they are basically picking college majors by middle school like many places in Europe? Does Europe provide all the same services to their students with special needs like we do here in the states??...
you want free health care like everyone else? You want to pay the taxes like everyone else? (ask a brit how much money gas costs there in American dollars because of taxes)
You think politics is not f'ed up everywhere? your dilusional....
dont even start on foreign aid....no matter how much America gives it will NEVER be enough to the rest of the world...how much foreign aid did we get for Hurricane Katrina??....(you're welcome Europe for the pass on the loan repayments from two World Wars btw)
What happened to us? we make shit cars? you mean like the British??...TVR: do they even hold together long enough to be driven off the factory floor? Aston Martin, Jaguar: used to be owned by FORD....
BAH!
here is one for you @$$bag....
stand with straight back, with feet together...extend right arm out and upwards....and exclaim "SIEG HEIL!"...repeat process...
THEN remember what you're talking about when bashing obese America...
now onto the fight...i've said this before...Hatton should be willing to fight Mayweather in his spare bathroom...not making any sort of demands about where the fight should take place...
Boxing use to be by far the #1 sport in the World and there going to let this shit slide?
i think you mean Soccer/Football WAS and IS by far the #1 sport in the world....to think Boxing ever was in the same league is a joke imo....
but other than that yes I agree with you....
I agree with Oscar. Mayweather promised to go toe-to-toe. He promised the fans it'll be a war, etc and he didn't show up. Oscar exposed Mayweather in the 8th round when he killed Floyd with the JAB. Floyd CAN be beaten.
you didnt HONESTLY expect Mayweather to trade with someone who is multiple weight classes above him did you?...anyone who bought into mayweather's nonsense about trading should have their head checked...mayweather has never done that and never will...why would a fight against a MUCH bigger man be any different....
regardless Mayweather is undefeated...
I said PBF basically because I'm a Floyd nuthugger...lol no seriously though....
no I'm just a nuthugger...
kidding...anyways I went with Floyd only because nobody has beaten him...I honestly can not say i'd be sure either dude would win....both play the same game for the most part....and its tough to say who would be better at it...
do you even know what it means to be pragmatic??....you are throwing the word around like its going out of style....and to me it seems rather misplaced in such a discussion....
I doubt the shorts have any sort of effect....or at least not as much as you think....I also have no desire to see Pretty Boy's...erm...well..."boys" next time he fights wearing short shorts....
C.R.E.A.M.
and that is the answer....no matter what anyone else tries to spout about being a warrior or anything like that....while it may be true....its not the real reason...
Margarito won the fight....total robbery...williams was just throwing slapping shots all day and was holding every round...the referee should be fired..he kept giving williams warnings for holding ..I counted 11 warning..he should have taken 1 point away at least....but it's hard to beat a robbery.....williams should be called the black hatton...hit and hold ..hit and hold....
oh man im rolling on the floor...keep it coming...
7 of Floyd's last 11 fights were decision victories. That is not consistent ass whooping KOs. So when people swear that Floyd will "KO (boxer name here)" we just laugh because stats don't lie...all the time.
he is fighting how many weight classes from his natural weight?...there is NO WAY he knocks ANYONE out at 154...and probably not a 147 either....
I don't think Gatti is overrated, just emmensely popular....
He is exciting and has a hige following that are behind him no matter what....I don't think many people would make the clame he is an all time great, or ever was a real world class fighter...
All that said im rooting HARD for Gatti!!
When toney beat ruiz, they found steriods in his system, however as far as i know they were never proven to be PERFORMANCE ENHANCING steriods, thus toney beat ruiz fair and square, and was robbed of his heavyweight title.
oh dear, I had to quote this just for the comedic value!...
sure there are different types of steroids....cortisone is a steroid, shit...Vitamin D is a steroid...but they don't test for that...of course they were PERFORMANCE ENHANCING steroids...
oh, and btw....seems to me that most people on this board (like the general public) don't really understand how steroids work...
Taking steroids does not by itself make you stronger...what it DOES do is allow your muscle to regenerate itself faster after breaking down during workouts...so what they allow you to do is work out for longer periods of time, and more often...People on steroids still have to bust their ass...they can just bust their ass for longer periods of time, and more often..
Now when it comes to sports...Steroids CAN NOT make anyone a superstar...PERIOD...if you cant hit a baseball...Steroids will not make you Barry Bonds....if you can't box...Steroids can not make you Joe Frasier....
what they can do is make great players or fighters hall of famers by adding that little extra pop to their bat, or punches...
still cheatin lyin SOB's....but steroids are some of the most misunderstood substances on Earth....
Castillo won the first fight, FLoyd just got the decision as a huge gift. Second fight, he won.
says who? you??...what is your round by round breakdown look like??...scores and a description of each round...we all know the scoring "experts" of boxing scene must be more qualified than the actual judges...:bottle:
does it matter??....if Strawberry Margarita looses on Saturday his chances of ever getting Floyd to fight him are essentially zilch...honestly Margarito needs to beat EVERYONE Floyd has and then some at this point to even be considered for a fight...
Is this right? nah I'd like to see the fight as much as the next guy....but its just the way it is these days...
the answer to your question is YES....Floyd is a true champion...period...he is undefeated, only had 1 questionable decision which he totally avenged in the rematch....get over it haters...you don't like Floyd we understand...but do not need to read countless threads about it...
I think that's a little unfair.
He was no p4p guy, but he was a titlist and one of the top 130 lb. fighters at the time he was there during the 95-97 period. He was still probably a top 10 guy at 140.
If you're a top 10 contender, I think that makes you world-class.
ok, ill agree with you
its true
most of these fights floyd is actually supposed to lose
but when he wins excuses appear and haters come up with sorry statements and try to degrade floyd
give the man his props
best p4p fighter today
i wouldnt say Floyd is SUPPOSED to lose most of his fights...but i will agree that every time he fights all you hear is "this is gonna be the guy, his style will exploit Floyd's weaknesses....blah blah...." and then when it happens the haters just shrug it off and complain the Floyd is ducking the next guy...
i called this i knew if it went to decision it would most likely be williams by decision but i knew williams cant hurt margarito
not even a lil bit
when a guy gets rocked like that in the later rounds he shouldnt win a title for it
do you need some tissues for your tears?...damn...Strawberry Margarita got beat...the judges were TOO kind to Margarito....
Boxing is NOT about hurting the other guy no matter how much you want it to be...
so catching someone and hurting them in two rounds TOPS....that negates the other 10 rounds of the fight? get out of here...