mayweather v.s pernell(sweet pea)whitaker take your pick and why

The size thing wasnt about them against eachother. It was about the differences in Floyd's fight with Oscar vs Pea's fight with Oscar. It was also about there overall career. You see Sweet Pea nearly always at his prime weight. He started at 35 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 40 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 47. Floyd has went from 30-54 and he has done it in a super quick time when Floyd really isnt that big. He should be fighting at 140 and could probally still make 135. Im saying to you that you would be thinking alot more differently probally if Floyd had more fights at 35 like he was supposed to and then spent the rest of his career at 40 like he should be. It would change your view and he would look alot different. You dont think that matters at all? Again, lets see Pea go to 5 weight classes or even 4, espically when he wasnt natural. Its super hard to do. Pea would not look nearly as good at 60 as Floyd did at 54 and he wouldnt look nearly as good at 54 as Floyd did at 47. It makes you look different the more you move up and Floyd is even doing that unaturaly Whitaker did go 4 weight classes, and he won the WBA championship against one of the best NATURAL Jr. Middleweight champions of the past 15 years. Julio Cesar Vazquez was an ox...more skilled than most remember too. The guy beat Wright, Davis, Daniels and Castiellejo. He was certainly better than Carlos Baldomir, and if Whitaker fought Vazquez like Mayweather fought Baldomir it would have been more of a shut out than it already was. Whitaker was a strong fighter, but he was hardly the bigger man in his fights at his best weight like Floyd was. Floyd was bigger than pretty much everyone he fought at 130 outside of Chicanito and Chico. I mean look at how much bigger Floyd looked than Manfredy, Goyo Vargas, Ramon Rios, Chavez and Carlos Hernandez. Those guys are among the best names on his ledger. Whitaker was fighting guys like Pendleton, Haugen, Mayweather, and Poli Diaz who were generally bigger, rangier and/or stronger than he was.

You guys always misread what I say. I wasnt comparing those guys to Sweet Pea. That part was more about Floyd. The guy was trying to tell me that Floyd never comes forward and never walks guys down and I said that he does when he fights those kind of slick southpaws who are his own size. Thats all. Im not stupid enough to think it would be as simple as it was against them but I think he would fight him in that same walk down style How would Floyd be as effective using strategy this with the most elusive fighter the sport has seen? When Mayweather used this strategy with Judah in spots early, he was countered with hard right hooks and straight left hands. Judah stopped throwing punches once Floyd started hitting him like he always does, like he did against Cotto too, but that wouldn't work against a fighter like Whitaker, who wouldn't be getting hit with NEARLY the amount of punches that Judah was hit with. Whitaker didn't fall apart under pressure like that. If anything Floyd would be best off using his length, fighting at range, using the jab upstairs and down, trying to time Whitaker. Coming after Whitaker would get Floyd countered and hammered to the body.

lets leave it at this.. you got your opinion. and others have theres.. ??? ok kool! Ill let the votes on this poll do the talkiing...

Why dont we just end the thread by keeping in real and saying this. The fact is Floyd is by far the most hated man in boxing and the most hated man on these boards. That will always lead to Floyd losing every matchup on this board when it comes to Floyd vs a past great fighter. No matter who it is Floyd will always be inferior on these boards and no one thinks he's that good anyway. We might as well stop comparing him to those guys because most of you dont even think Floyd is that good

If you truly think Mayweather has surpassed Roy in history you need a serious brain scan... You honestly believe that RJ can get beat twice by Tarver and KO twice but Floyd hasnt supassed him? I guess he hasnt surpassed Tito or Shane either

Don't worry DLT. just another typical Roy fan crying his eyes out and refusing to admit that Mayweather has already surpassed his hero. nothing to see here. If you truly think Mayweather has surpassed Roy in history you need a serious brain scan...

whitaker is a better all around fighter, his jab is superior, his bodywork is superior, his size may be naturally alittle bigger, hes more elusive and he has better combinations.....and rhis redume is waaaaaaaaaay better(see oldgringos post in the 4th page......) whitaker by ud.........

Yall really need to stop sucking PBF's dick. It really is funny how the evidence is so obvious that sweet Pea is better that yall are blinded by his excellence in the ring.

Whitaker by a wide UD. Anybody who picked PBF must be way under 11-16 years old. Back in the Day Sweet Pea was something special. He made a fool out of PBF's uncle and was robbed by ODLH. Sweet Pea just has more talent, more athleticism, better defense, and is an accurate volume puncher.

whitaker on the fact he can do everything floyd can but much better. and a wayyyy better more elusive puncher.. another sad comparison.. Don't worry DLT. just another typical Roy fan crying his eyes out and refusing to admit that Mayweather has already surpassed his hero. nothing to see here.

DLT, I dont know why you keep bringing up size. Pernell Whitaker is 5'6 with a 69" reach compared to Floyds 5'8 with a 72" reach. Also, comparing Whitaker to Cory Spinks is just insulting and really shows how you view Whitakers fighting style. As for punching power, The size thing wasnt about them against eachother. It was about the differences in Floyd's fight with Oscar vs Pea's fight with Oscar. It was also about there overall career. You see Sweet Pea nearly always at his prime weight. He started at 35 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 40 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 47. Floyd has went from 30-54 and he has done it in a super quick time when Floyd really isnt that big. He should be fighting at 140 and could probally still make 135. Im saying to you that you would be thinking alot more differently probally if Floyd had more fights at 35 like he was supposed to and then spent the rest of his career at 40 like he should be. It would change your view and he would look alot different. You dont think that matters at all? Again, lets see Pea go to 5 weight classes or even 4, espically when he wasnt natural. Its super hard to do. Pea would not look nearly as good at 60 as Floyd did at 54 and he wouldnt look nearly as good at 54 as Floyd did at 47. It makes you look different the more you move up and Floyd is even doing that unaturaly

I thought you'd give Whitaker more respect than this. Throwing him in a boat with a shot Sharmba Mitchell (who was far from slick when Floyd fought him), a head case in Zab Judah (who really isn't great defensively) and an AVERAGE fighter in DeMarcus Corley is below your level of analysis. Come on now. These guys would be fighting in the center of the ring, looking for opportunities to counter. Floyd isn't going to walk Whitaker down, Whitaker isn't going to back pedal all night because Floyd is walking him down, it just ain't happening like that. Floyd would have trouble picking off Whitakers punches because they'd come from such odd angles. Whitaker went to the body well, he hurt big strong opponents with hard right hooks and lefts inside. Whitaker would win the inside fight because of his reflex and solid combination punching downstairs. Whitakers jab, left hand and right hand downstairs would be big trouble for Floyd. You guys always misread what I say. I wasnt comparing those guys to Sweet Pea. That part was more about Floyd. The guy was trying to tell me that Floyd never comes forward and never walks guys down and I said that he does when he fights those kind of slick southpaws who are his own size. Thats all. Im not stupid enough to think it would be as simple as it was against them but I think he would fight him in that same walk down style

no question it would be pernell (prime) he has faced the better opponents of the two regardless if floyd continues for about 2 more years which he won't cuz he'll be bitching....whitaker has more speed and better footwork and of course a crafty southpaw...they don't make em' like that no more

DLT, I dont know why you keep bringing up size. Pernell Whitaker is 5'6 with a 69" reach compared to Floyds 5'8 with a 72" reach. Also, comparing Whitaker to Cory Spinks is just insulting and really shows how you view Whitakers fighting style. As for punching power, When I first started reading this post I was thinking man I hope somebody uploads the sweet pea highlight from you tube. Maybe this will shed some light on some people and they will stop saying some dumb ass shit. Sweet Pea was phenominal. Pernell by decision. End of story.

Exaggeration, more like 3 or 4, you need to watch the fight again sir.. Ok Sonofisis, I just did, again, on utube....I still saw Zab Judah banging Floyd on the corner ropes ALL THE WAY to the bell of the 5th round! It wasn't until round 6 that Floyd started doing damage. Floyd won, but I still feel Sweet Pea hands Floyd a defeat.

Floyd isnt a warrior.. he is a careful business man.. With so much skill that he must doubt because he doesnt want to fight the best.. I am not a floyd hater at all and thats the truth.. I just think he picks the best fights for him rather than prooving he is the best.. Only fight I give him props for was against Judah, and zab gave him all he could handle.. Im tired of trying to explain though... leave it at that. and yes floyd style suits me fine.. Its just the excuses me makes not to fight certain guys like mosley etc.. but then always finds a reason to fight the easier fight.. baldomir,gatti etc...

It took Floyd 6 rounds to figure out Zab Judah. Exaggeration, more like 3 or 4, you need to watch the fight again sir..

If the old saying..."It takes a Ninja to beat a Ninja" holds true...Pernill Whitaker takes this one over Floyd Mayweather. His Southpaw style would give Floyd fits. It took Floyd 6 rounds to figure out Zab Judah. Sweet Pea was the master of all elusive fighters, and took much bigger risks in mixing it up with heavy bangers.

Pernell wasn't able to beat Oscar, so Mayweather! I already know however, to expect that whenever Floyd is matched up against an all-time great he won't get the benefit of the doubt, for a variety of ill-conceived reasons, but who cares? Yea, Styles make fights, Oscar got older, and both fights were close, but I still say Floyd! Floyd would of picked him off, trying to do all that low ducking n shit..

i'd take whitaker over mayweather due to the fact that pernell took more risks and would be aggressive when he needed to. he never carried any fighters to the final bell that he had beat. that and i think that with whitakers style he'd have floyd following him around the ring, instead of chasing floyd down. it would probably be a real tactical fight but i think that pernell would out point mayweather in a razor thin decision...............