Margarito may loose on Saturday but that does not mean PBF didn't duck Margarito. He ducked him just like Spinks, and Judah did.
I have noticed a lot of PBF fans are taking this fight as if Williams wins then it vindicates Floyd. Like Floyd didnt duck him, like the money was not on the table like 3 times. And contrary to belief, if Williams beats him, it does not mean PBF would have. So there is no way PBF can be vindicated from ducking this "ordinary fighter" who knocked on his door.
Margarito may be the most overrated, slowest fighter, or any other insult people throw at him but at the end of the day the man has the balls to get up in the ring against anyone to defend his honor and all he has worked for, which is more than one can say about floyd and others.
its already been shown you need more than just major size and drive to beat mayweather.
Not really. De La Hoya was winning the fight when he showed 'drive' by being aggressive and throwing shots. When he waited, which he did too much, he was losing.
who did ndou bruseles and sosa beat to get there shot??? did they even offer a million to fight???
Just answer the question, or maybe answer this question, why didn't Margarito take a fight with Winky or Mosley when they offered to fight him for the same amount offered Floyd? Maybe because it was never a legit offer or Margarito was scared?
Someone please remind me who margarito beat to deserve a fight with Floyd?
I've been asking the same question since Marg called Floyd out or should I say Arum called FLoyd out.
hey man i have to say this is one of the best posts i ever saw here. a lot of people dont respect margarito and hate on him only because he was one of the only fighters to have the heart and balls to challenge mayweather who many think is the best in the world. margarito not only challenged him but he offered mayweather the most money he could make to fight anyone at that time. he didnt hide behind his promoter he went stragiht to mayweathers face and told him he want his shot.
there are few fighters that are true warriors and real men like antonio margarito. ya im a big fan but i know hes not the fastest guy in the world and not the greatest boxer. still i have total respect for him because he will fight anyone and he has no fear of fighting the best. this saturday he is fighting a guy that no one else in the welterweight division wanted any part of. margarito could have ducked him to fight cotto for more fame and money but like the warrior that he is he wouldnt give his belt up and duck this man. if he lost this belt it would be in the ring.
i dont see how the mayweather fans cant at least respect margarito for having balls and willing to fight the best. you know everyone was telling margarito mayweather would kill him but he didnt care he wanted to shock the world. that is the kind of fighter i can respect. i dont see how anyone could ever respect mayweather for ducking and dodging and being a businessman. he is a very skilled boxer but i dont consider him a true fighter just a businessman.
I wonder why:duh:
Arum just stated facts. Floyd, Winky, Mosley, Zab and Spinks refused to fight him. Then we start hearing from people like Ishe Smith(Why Bother), Clottey, Rivera and Williams. He fought Clottey and now he's fighting Williams. What do you want Tony to do, fight all those guys on the same night. He was the most avoide WW during his reign.
Floyd and Winky both turned down career high paydays to fight Tony. No hype necessary if its true...
Winky, Ouma and Rivera all said they would fight Marg after he was stating he was the most feared man and he turned all of them down or showed no interest.
Arum just stated facts. Floyd, Winky, Mosley, Zab and Spinks refused to fight him. Then we start hearing from people like Ishe Smith(Why Bother), Clottey, Rivera and Williams. He fought Clottey and now he's fighting Williams. What do you want Tony to do, fight all those guys on the same night. He was the most avoide WW during his reign.
Floyd and Winky both turned down career high paydays to fight Tony. No hype necessary if its true...
You are incorrect Mosley and Winky both called Margarito out for the same money they offered Floyd. Margarito then proceeded to duck them.
You really have no clue huh?? If Floyd can fight guys named Henry Brusseles, Victoriano Sosa, Phil N'Dou, Chop Chop Corley, Sharmba Micthel, Arturo Gatti, why. Your the one with no clue most of those fighters were at 135 or 140, and what makes margarito so much better then those fighters you named.
7 of Floyd's last 11 fights were decision victories. That is not consistent ass whooping KOs. So when people swear that Floyd will "KO (boxer name here)" we just laugh because stats don't lie...all the time.
he is fighting how many weight classes from his natural weight?...there is NO WAY he knocks ANYONE out at 154...and probably not a 147 either....
it was ARUM who started the whole floyd is SCARED of Margarito hype/publicity then he(arum went for the moon and stars) by then saying EVERYONE is afraid to fight margarito. so oscar and the GBP fighters all said whats good? we all will fight margarito if you pay us properly then ARUM shut up after that.
Arum just stated facts. Floyd, Winky, Mosley, Zab and Spinks refused to fight him. Then we start hearing from people like Ishe Smith(Why Bother), Clottey, Rivera and Williams. He fought Clottey and now he's fighting Williams. What do you want Tony to do, fight all those guys on the same night. He was the most avoide WW during his reign.
Floyd and Winky both turned down career high paydays to fight Tony. No hype necessary if its true...
i personally dont hate or have anything against margarito hes a good fighter but not a GREAT fighter!
the beef i have is that ARUM hypes/publicity margarito up like hes IVAN DRAGO and we all know that shiiiiiiit its BULLLLLLLLLLLLLL! what makes it worse is that his die hard fans believe he's as FEARED as ARUM HYPES him to be. that irks me yo.
Please tell us what Arum does to hype this guy up. I think mayweather is the one who hyped Tony up. When Mayweather ran from a career high payday for what he termed as easy work, who is doing the hyping?? From a fans point of view it made Floyd look real bad. Tony is a good fighter. He's no Duran or Hearns. One day he may be mentioned with those guys. Depends on how his career goes from Saturday on...
I dont understand why when stuff like this happeneds then Mayweather is ducking a guy but he called Oscar out for 5 years and no one considered that ducking. If Oscar had never fought him then no one still wouldve considered it. He called Shane out but no one thinks that Shane ducked him. He called Hatton out for years now but no one considers it as Hatton ducked him.
The fact is this happeneds all the time when your talking about "big names" but if there's one guy who has no leg to stand on then its Margarito. He has done absolutely nothing on a big level. Nothing at all. He doesnt compare to Floyd, Oscar, Shane, Hatton, Cotto, or whoever. He doesnt compare at all. Now Im not saying that he's not a good fighter or even on that level but he hasnt done one thing to prove that so how can you say a guy ducked him?
I bet anything right now that if Cintron offered Floyd 8mil for a fight and Floyd said no then no one would say that Floyd ducked him. The money has nothing to do with it. The fact is at the time people hated Floyd so much and everyone wanted someone to stand up to him. The fact that Floyd said no made everyone jump on board. If Floyd had said yes from the jump then it wouldnt had even been a huge fight. No one thought of that fight as a big deal until Floyd said No and Arum boosted everyone's head up. Its funny because Margarito was then called the most feared man in boxing.
Since then he moved up 1 weight class and loss to easily one of the worst fighters there in Santos, he then was getting killed by Clottey until he hurt his hand. Its funny because after the Floyd thing everyone called Margarito the most feared man in boxing but then what happened? All the fighters laughed and thought it was a joke. Then you had every guy challange him. Santos, Clottey, Williams, Cotto, Ouma, Ishe, Rivera, and I could go on forever. Now no one even talks about Margarito. I know one thing, he better win Saturday or he will look like a fool for sure and so will alot of his fans.
Boxing Scenes Antonio always brings up the fact that Floyd promised Margarito the fight but never did it. I say since when has Floyd stopped fighting? I still believe Floyd in what he said. He didnt flat out promise him a fight. He said "do something and you will get a fight". This is Margarito's chance. He can beat Williams but that wont impress Floyd. If he beats Williams, then Cotto, and those fights are big with alot of fans then I bet the house on it that Floyd would fight him. Thats what Floyd cares about. You cant deny that no one knows him just like Floyd said. For God's sake he just had a PPV with 35,000 buys. If his name got big and he beat the top guys then Floyd would definatly fight him. Thats what its all about. He's not going to fight you just because you say your good. Prove it in the ring, put fans in the seat, or sell PPVs and then you will get Floyd all day
You really have no clue huh?? If Floyd can fight guys named Henry Brusseles, Victoriano Sosa, Phil N'Dou, Chop Chop Corley, Sharmba Micthel, Arturo Gatti, why not Margarito?? Is fighting Shane Mosely, Oscar DLH or Zab Judah a prerequisite for fighting Mayweather?? Tony compares favorably to all the guys you mentioned. He's been a champ for 5 years. He has 8 defenses. Yes Moseley, Judah, Spinks, Winky and yes Mayweather all turned him down for fight.
All of the guys who challenged Tony cant get him on the same night. You forgot to give him credit for taking on 2 of the aforementioned challengers in his next 2 fights since the whole Mayweather thing. The Santos fight happened in 04, not last year as you implied. And yes Tony lost, but it was VERY controversial. Tony was cut, but blasting away at Santos who weighted 172 for a 154 fight. Santos got a gift that night. I'm sure you didnt see that fight though. Santos isnt one of the worst. Thats just silly.
If Williams wins, he will have earned the victory. He should get the accolades he deserves because Tony is no slouch. I expect and pick Tony to win, but in boxing you never know.
If margarito loses, its not even going to fucking matter because not only will he have no title, but another loss further driving down his stock which would show he neve rbelonged in the same ring as mayweather in the first place (which he still doesnt anyway) and since Mayweather moved up to fight a superior De La Hoya, its already been shown you need more than just major size and drive to beat mayweather.
But yes, Mayweather ducked margarito, this is true, but at this point, does it really matter to anyone whos NOT hardcore boxing fan?
maybe you should of replaced superior de la hoya with past his prime de la hoya?
Mayweather had a hand injury from the Judah fight u little smart ass. Also he was trying to get away from Arum. Bottom line is Judah is better than anyone Margarito ever fought and Floyd made the same $ fighting Baldomir. Mr. Margarito won a vacant belt Baldomir won the real title. It won't matter Paul will whoop his ass Saturday night.
Little?? Me?? You've got me mistaken for somebody else... The Judah fight was in April. margarito/Mayweather could have been made for late August or September. Dont call a person a smartass when they call your bullshit, bullshit. Floyd was trying to get away from Arum and TONY... the Baldomir fight wasnt even a consideration until well after baldy beat Gatti. Also, somehow I'm positive that if Oscar wanted to dance in August of '06, Floyd's hand injury would have been non existant...
I dont understand why when stuff like this happeneds then Mayweather is ducking a guy but he called Oscar out for 5 years and no one considered that ducking. If Oscar had never fought him then no one still wouldve considered it. He called Shane out but no one thinks that Shane ducked him. He called Hatton out for years now but no one considers it as Hatton ducked him.
The fact is this happeneds all the time when your talking about "big names" but if there's one guy who has no leg to stand on then its Margarito. He has done absolutely nothing on a big level. Nothing at all. He doesnt compare to Floyd, Oscar, Shane, Hatton, Cotto, or whoever. He doesnt compare at all. Now Im not saying that he's not a good fighter or even on that level but he hasnt done one thing to prove that so how can you say a guy ducked him?
I bet anything right now that if Cintron offered Floyd 8mil for a fight and Floyd said no then no one would say that Floyd ducked him. The money has nothing to do with it. The fact is at the time people hated Floyd so much and everyone wanted someone to stand up to him. The fact that Floyd said no made everyone jump on board. If Floyd had said yes from the jump then it wouldnt had even been a huge fight. No one thought of that fight as a big deal until Floyd said No and Arum boosted everyone's head up. Its funny because Margarito was then called the most feared man in boxing.
Since then he moved up 1 weight class and loss to easily one of the worst fighters there in Santos, he then was getting killed by Clottey until he hurt his hand. Its funny because after the Floyd thing everyone called Margarito the most feared man in boxing but then what happened? All the fighters laughed and thought it was a joke. Then you had every guy challange him. Santos, Clottey, Williams, Cotto, Ouma, Ishe, Rivera, and I could go on forever. Now no one even talks about Margarito. I know one thing, he better win Saturday or he will look like a fool for sure and so will alot of his fans.
Boxing Scenes Antonio always brings up the fact that Floyd promised Margarito the fight but never did it. I say since when has Floyd stopped fighting? I still believe Floyd in what he said. He didnt flat out promise him a fight. He said "do something and you will get a fight". This is Margarito's chance. He can beat Williams but that wont impress Floyd. If he beats Williams, then Cotto, and those fights are big with alot of fans then I bet the house on it that Floyd would fight him. Thats what Floyd cares about. You cant deny that no one knows him just like Floyd said. For God's sake he just had a PPV with 35,000 buys. If his name got big and he beat the top guys then Floyd would definatly fight him. Thats what its all about. He's not going to fight you just because you say your good. Prove it in the ring, put fans in the seat, or sell PPVs and then you will get Floyd all day
does it matter??....if Strawberry Margarita looses on Saturday his chances of ever getting Floyd to fight him are essentially zilch...honestly Margarito needs to beat EVERYONE Floyd has and then some at this point to even be considered for a fight...
Is this right? nah I'd like to see the fight as much as the next guy....but its just the way it is these days...
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