yep US fans are scared of flyinng just like thier boxers!
he can't be that popular a boxer. are american fans quite arrogant? come to the UK. get your 50% obease arses to england. hatton will get atleast 60k maybe 90k people if there's a good promotion. we have very few top fighters at world championship level and therefore hatton will generate a huge gate. the atmosphere will be bigger than ever! sounds like the crowds in america are well quiet in america too. apart from 50 cent miming in the background.
ENGLAND invites mayweather fans and americans to watch the fight in wembley! you will get to see the queen, lennox lewis and james bond.
mayweather is a big name in boxing, but does the average sports fan know him? i doubt it. so why not actually take the opportunity to become a world champion by fighting across the world and gaining more fans. muhammed ali was a true world peoples champion.
the obease part was a joke, but as most americans have no understanding of a joke or a sense of humour, they usually go and mention the fact that they saved the world in world war 2. let me tell you this, nearly half of your country is non white. you're getting so many immigrants that one day you will cripple as soon as your economy dies. when the moneys gone from the US, the boxers will not be there and the immigrants also.
the US is full of mixed breed english, irish, italian and probably grizzly bears which explains why half of them are 300 lbs or whatever.
anyway before you mention that u also saved the world with the ipod, i don't give a damn.
infact i don't even think yousaved the world at all. you guys were too pussy to start until u got attacked because you're so dumb that you probably didn't think that germany would actually come and get you too.
i'm no historian so maybe 99% of what i stated is infact lies. :)
What is all the big deal with boxers having to fight in america. Fuck America. I would rather see Ricky fight someone else back here in England than for him to go to America and fight that fucking pansy. Its all just a hype. Just like Americans like to over hype their boxers until they get knocked the fuck out. Ricky has been to America and proved his point over there. Time for people to start coming to him now. I really hope this floyd fight never happens, and ricky faces some more 'real' opponents like Cotto. Fuck Mayweather. Keep the prick in retirement where he belongs.
You have to fight the best if you want to boost your legacy, but if you don't and you can still get away with fighting locally, then so be it.
So you are calling the best P4P fighter a "pansy"? Same "pansy" that offered Ricky two fights, yet it was Ricky-Ray who backed off.
Ricky proved his point?
Ricky struggled against Collazo, and many thought he actually lost. He was getting his as ripped and almost knocked out towards the end. When he won, he refused to give Collazo a rematch. Boy, what a great and honorable guy. I hope this shit comes back to bite him when he loses his title.
I always thought Ricky was different because the way he comes off in interviews, but his actions say different.
Ricky beat Urangowho?, and a shot Castillo...is this how the English fighters prove a point?
Maybe Lennox grew his balls in Canada
Don't start trouble with "American" fighters are "overrated" when it is cleary wrong and I will not rip into English fighters. Ricky is Ricky, that is who he represents first, not England.
Each fighter is different, each fighter is his own man, so lets try to leave it at that and not get Nationalities involved.
My top (current) fighters to watch are mostly from outside the States so I don't want to hear the homer crap either...
you mean the same genereration of people that would still call black person a ni__er? or a Japanese person a Jap, or a German a Kraut? The same generation of people responsible for some of the most gross civil rights violations in the history of the world?...yeah....
We still call Germans Krauts, just as we call the French Frogs, Americans Yanks, and just as the British are called limeys, la Rosbif and poms.
Honestly, whats wrong with our educational system? would you rather our kids be tracked so hardcore that they are basically picking college majors by middle school like many places in Europe? Does Europe provide all the same services to their students with special needs like we do here in the states??...
"Europe" is misleading, because there's huge disparity in both economic wealth and social progression from country to country. There are far more differences between the countries of the EU than there is amongst the States of America, and we all know the differences between the States can be considerable.
you want free health care like everyone else? You want to pay the taxes like everyone else? (ask a brit how much money gas costs there in American dollars because of taxes)
Americans are taxed to more or less the same degree as people in Britain and people in Canada, but there is less to show for the taxes. It gets eaten up in bureaucratic quagmires and by the enormous military. Road taxes are higher in the UK but subsidised transport is better, the roads are better and the presence of toll roads is extremely limited. Taxation levels have more to do with the tolerance level of the populace than they have to do with what is needed. There's never enough taxation to provide all of the services people expect of government.
You think politics is not f'ed up everywhere? your dilusional....
It's "delusional". And you're right, politics attracts many people who see opportunities for personal gain everywhere in the world. But in free countries such as most of Europe, Britain, North America, Australasia etc we're fortunate enough to be protected from the worst excessive of greedy politicians by constitutions and traditions of liberalism.
dont even start on foreign aid....no matter how much America gives it will NEVER be enough to the rest of the world...how much foreign aid did we get for Hurricane Katrina??....
The US is not the only nation on the planet to provide foreign aid, and Katrina was shockingly handled. Foreign aid was pledged to help Katrina victims.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-09-07-katrina-world_x.htm
In fact there has been frustration with foreign aid because the money doesn't seem to be getting to the people it was intended for.
(you're welcome Europe for the pass on the loan repayments from two World Wars btw)
The final payment of the lend-lease was made this year. There was no pass on the loan repayments.
What happened to us? we make shit cars? you mean like the British??...TVR: do they even hold together long enough to be driven off the factory floor? Aston Martin, Jaguar: used to be owned by FORD....
American cars are every bit as crap as British cars. The best cars currently are Japanese and European brands such as Toyota or Audi. If I was offered a choice between a Nissan and a Chrysler, guess what I'm picking.
you mean the same genereration of people that would still call black person a ni__er? or a Japanese person a Jap, or a German a Kraut? The same generation of people responsible for some of the most gross civil rights violations in the history of the world?...yeah....
Honestly, whats wrong with our educational system? would you rather our kids be tracked so hardcore that they are basically picking college majors by middle school like many places in Europe? Does Europe provide all the same services to their students with special needs like we do here in the states??...
you want free health care like everyone else? You want to pay the taxes like everyone else? (ask a brit how much money gas costs there in American dollars because of taxes)
You think politics is not f'ed up everywhere? your dilusional....
dont even start on foreign aid....no matter how much America gives it will NEVER be enough to the rest of the world...how much foreign aid did we get for Hurricane Katrina??....(you're welcome Europe for the pass on the loan repayments from two World Wars btw)
What happened to us? we make shit cars? you mean like the British??...TVR: do they even hold together long enough to be driven off the factory floor? Aston Martin, Jaguar: used to be owned by FORD....
BAH!
Yes, the same generation that fought, but of course still suffered from ignorance as well.
If you think our educational system is up to standards than you must have been in one hell of a public or pivate school.
"Special Needs": damn, I wish I went to your school. In the school I went to Teachers beat up the handicap kids because "They will not learn any other way"...despite the drunk who invented the English language, there seems to be little need to help dyslexic people...probably should not bring up some other touchy subjects...Good Job America, we are the best despite our kids constant struggle of the English language, not
to mention terrible math scores as well.
In fact, explain this to me, how come the smartest kids in my school had names like Chekov, Ruzovonivich, Patel, Wang....to be fair, there were some smart "Americans" like Bernstein, and Goldberg.
If you think this is the best you can do, then how do you call yourself an "American"?
Oh wait, probably the same "Americans" that accpet shit cars and shit fast foods.
I am sorry if I like to think Americans can and should be better.
In addition, of course, Politics is fucked up everywhere, but you are happy with what we have?
Since when is it "American" to be satisfied with what we have right now? We should ask ourselves how can we make this better.
you mean the same genereration of people that would still call black person a ni__er? or a Japanese person a Jap, or a German a Kraut? The same generation of people responsible for some of the most gross civil rights violations in the history of the world?...yeah....
Honestly, whats wrong with our educational system? would you rather our kids be tracked so hardcore that they are basically picking college majors by middle school like many places in Europe? Does Europe provide all the same services to their students with special needs like we do here in the states??...
you want free health care like everyone else? You want to pay the taxes like everyone else? (ask a brit how much money gas costs there in American dollars because of taxes)
You think politics is not f'ed up everywhere? your dilusional....
dont even start on foreign aid....no matter how much America gives it will NEVER be enough to the rest of the world...how much foreign aid did we get for Hurricane Katrina??....(you're welcome Europe for the pass on the loan repayments from two World Wars btw)
What happened to us? we make shit cars? you mean like the British??...TVR: do they even hold together long enough to be driven off the factory floor? Aston Martin, Jaguar: used to be owned by FORD....
BAH!
its true, is it not?...look its an exaggerated claim to say the least...but Churchill was BEGGING to get the US into the war (granted so was Roosevelt). But honestly if Japan never bombs Pearl Harbor England is lost for sure....hell it says something that we are attacked by Japan, and invade Europe first no?
Is it a 100% accurate claim? no, is it a totally ethnocentric/pro-American way of looking at the war? sure...but I'm in a bad mood tonight and coming to Boxing Scene to read crap about people knocking America set me off...
The trouble is there are far too many Americans who solemnly believe that the rest of the world sat on its collective arse until 1941 waiting for the Yanks to save them. This is the voice of America and this is the fuel for the ire of the anti-Americans. By using WWII as a catch-all for "We're the US we can do what we want" you are reinforcing the stereotype of Americans as uneducated flag-waving yahoos. Without the US lend-lease the allies were screwed in 1939. Without US involvement in the Pacific field the allies were screwed. If the US had sided with the Nazis then the allies were screwed. But not as screwed as we would have been without the Russkies.
I think it's important to remember that World War II was a World war and I really loathe to see the sacrifices of our grandparents cheapened by jingoistic nationalism. Americans made major sacrifices in a war they could have left to fester for another twenty years, and they did it for the notion of freedom. The British made the same sacrifices, so did Canadians, so did all of the allies. And the Russians? More than 20 million Soviet troops dead by 1945. It's not even something we can contemplate. Can you picture 20 million people? I can picture 60,000, I went to an England game and it's a lot of people. I went to a music festival and I can picture maybe 120,000 at a stretch. But twenty million human lives lost from one country, I mean it's almost not a number. A third of the current population of Great Britain, that's like someone nuked London England, only two times over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human_losses_of_world_war_two_by_country.gif
Sorry for making it political.
I'm the first to defend the US and its contribution to a progressive world. It's not an easy defense to make when some chump trots out the old "We saved your asses in WWII" shite.
Agreed...
I would also like to add that it never seemed that the generation that did the actual fighting ever used that shit as a response either. They were happy to help because they wanted and NEEDED to help as human beings.
This crap about waiving the American flag and saying we are #1 is bullshit. If you are the "best" you should not need to go around showing how big, your dick and balls are...you know how big they are, the Ladies know, that is all that matters.
On that note: As the "Greatest Country in the World", lets start by fixing our educational system, health-care, messed up politics and corruption, etc.
Let us HELP others in need because we feel the need to, not because we want something in return.
Am I the only American on the board that feels that "America" should be better than it currently is?
WTF happened to us...we make shit cars, shit food, eh, disgusted.
There is a lot I love about this country, especially the idea of it, but come on, let us get our shit together and be better than we currently are.
And now back to boxing...
I'm the first to defend the US and its contribution to a progressive world. It's not an easy defense to make when some chump trots out the old "We saved your asses in WWII" shite.
its true, is it not?...look its an exaggerated claim to say the least...but Churchill was BEGGING to get the US into the war (granted so was Roosevelt). But honestly if Japan never bombs Pearl Harbor England is lost for sure....hell it says something that we are attacked by Japan, and invade Europe first no?
Is it a 100% accurate claim? no, is it a totally ethnocentric/pro-American way of looking at the war? sure...but I'm in a bad mood tonight and coming to Boxing Scene to read crap about people knocking America set me off...
they insult america
but want our help
and always want to
migrate over
If we're honest Brits want to emigrate to Canada, Australia and New Zealand more than to the US. The kind of people who waqnt to migrate to the US are the kind of people who would also like to migrate to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Britain. Maybe not Britain now Gordon Brown is PM.
Good find on the picture Soda...I like to always use all three of them together as "Had the talent to be GREATS, but threw it all away early"...Big fan of all three growing up
http://www.deadspin.com/images/2006/03/goodenstrawtyson.jpg
thanks....I'm a die-hard fan of both the Mets and Tyson, so when i stumbled onto that picture I had to have it lol....but seriously your analysis of the 3 is perfect...in the case of Doc and Straw they had the talent to be the most dominating players at their respective positions possibly of all time...
and Tyson well...even with his downfalls he is one of the all time greats...but for sure had the potential to be THE man....
its a shame about all 3 actually...they acomplished so much as it was...but yet had the potential for SO MUCH more...
No, actually what im talking about is how easily people flig insults towards America, and fail to remember that without America the free world as we know it would probably not exist...before you spout your nonsense, yes I know America could have never won WWII on its own...but without America's involvement Europe would have been lost....
people ride America so hard...well stop buying Nike shoes...stop drinking Coca Cola/Pepsi products....give up the American clothing companies, yadda yadda yadda....
they insult america
but want our help
and always want to
migrate over
i mean thats what the country was
bult off migrating but dont insult us
then dream and strive for our
opportunities.
No, actually what im talking about is how easily people flig insults towards America, and fail to remember that without America the free world as we know it would probably not exist...before you spout your nonsense, yes I know America could have never won WWII on its own...but without America's involvement Europe would have been lost....
people ride America so hard...well stop buying Nike shoes...stop drinking Coca Cola/Pepsi products....give up the American clothing companies, yadda yadda yadda....
I'm the first to defend the US and its contribution to a progressive world. It's not an easy defense to make when some chump trots out the old "We saved your asses in WWII" shite.
No, actually what im talking about is how easily people flig insults towards America, and fail to remember that without America the free world as we know it would probably not exist...before you spout your nonsense, yes I know America could have never won WWII on its own...but without America's involvement Europe would have been lost....
people ride America so hard...well stop buying Nike shoes...stop drinking Coca Cola/Pepsi products....give up the American clothing companies, yadda yadda yadda....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
apparently you missed that day of school....
Good find on the picture Soda...I like to always use all three of them together as "Had the talent to be GREATS, but threw it all away early"...Big fan of all three growing up
http://www.deadspin.com/images/2006/03/goodenstrawtyson.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
apparently you missed that day of school....
I'm still not sure what you're trying to say. I'm assuming it's taking in vain the greatest struggle in human history in which a coalition of countries endured huge sacrifices to vanquish one of the great evils of all times, in order to pursue some sort of infantile game of one-upmanship on the internet.
I'm glad that the millions of British, Canadian, French, American, Russian, Australian, Polish, Indian, Malaysian and sundry other troops did not die in vain, and have allowed you the freedom to act like a prick and thus make life in your sordid little grief-hole a little less unbearable.
go to england
and see all them ugly bitches
I married a Canadian, so I got nothin here. One thing I'll say about my British female relatives: They're fertile.
go to england
and see all them ugly bitches
ewww ill pass. flat ass smell like
sausage n teeth like pirates n mongolans.
im only leaving thecountry for buisness
and to meet fine excotic women.
ere is one for you @$$bag....
stand with straight back, with feet together...extend right arm out and upwards....and exclaim "SIEG HEIL!"...repeat process...
THEN remember what you're talking about when bashing obese America...
What the fuck are you talking about?