that business model has the soulless ones in a rage..they were stealing from fighters by signing them to long term promotional contracts..look at what bob arum has done to manny..
the days of long-term promotional contracts is coming to an end..the promoter will be relegated to doing just that getting a percent of the fighters revenue for promoting..
the shenanigans of the past are over with..welcome to the al haymon era were fighters come first!
I agree, where everyone can make money, and one side not be robbed completly blind.
A Pacquiao fan explained to me back in 2009.
That we should let the commission do their job.
No additional testing should be required for true warriors such as Manny.
That and his lw run vs all the top guys... Hopkins has a bunch of iran barkley type wins late in his career. but in his prime he was losing wide decisions to roy, and getting draws and being dropped by mercado.... Tito is his best win.. Duran has far better names on his resume..
Hopkins beating adonis would def make him top 30 or so, but top 10 is not realistic IMO
Duran did a worse than that, He quit in the second Leonard fight, talk about a wide margin before the fight ended.
I wouldn't say that Hopkins him being a Top 10 is out of the question.
fack no!! what kinda crack are u smoking?? u do know people who practice karate never compete in a real combat fight right? instead they wear head gear and fight for points. each time someone land on his/her opponent they stop and regroup. how is this comparable to mma????
Ok so basically Karate is no longer a viable form or Martial Arts? I understand now.
Ronda Rousey can beat anyman in boxing, From Mayweather to GGG to Vitali. You happy now?
That's not true at all. You have options in MMA. Its not as tough as boxing for that reason. All it takes is one punch to land against a very sub par striker. Which there are a lot of. I'm not saying it's likely, but very plausible many boxers do well in MMA, especially with training. There is nothing that says a boxer can't train MMA for the same amount of time some of the guys in there have and do well.
Ronda is too slow to ever catch Floyd. He would pot shot the **** out of her, and probably knock her out with the first clean straight that land.
Potshot??? there would be no potshots, this is a women taking a punch from a pro boxer, a P4P boxer at that. I would doubt that she would take 2-3 punches.
hello smart guy this aint just no regular female practicing martial arts or karate as self defense LOL. floyd might be able to get thru rousey since she still have some women in her but if its that crazy dude looking chick cybrog, floyd is done for.
Im not here to debate that Floyd can beat all women in MMA, that just sounds stupid and crazy wise guy.
And yes a blackbelt female that has taken Karate classes CAN be compared to a female MMA fighter, it's all about how much work you invested into it.
Sorry dude, but no trained fighter is unstoppable, rather its a female MMA fighter or Floyd Mayweather.
http://www.troll.me/images/big-balled-monkey/deal-with-it.jpg
LOL some of ya take things too serious LOL
I do, I don't support women and men fighting, that just bad dude.
You should be supporting Canelo Vs Angulo, Bradley and Pac fighting, May Vs Maidana, instead you are here hoping that Floyd fights a women.
She definitely looks like she is on T
She also looks like she has an inner racist in her somwhere
She does look like one of those good ol Southern Alabama chicks don't she.
Confederate flag and all
man who gives a fvcking sh1t damn, every fvcking day all ya'll do is argue over these 2 damn fighters and not talk any other boxing...fvck off damn!!!!
Larry you the biggest F-L-O-M-O on this website in history, PERIOD!! And now you don't like people to talk about Mayweather in any sense but you know his reputation has been destroyed, just accept it, your hero is a wanna be.
karate is a small part of martial arts. go get a karate master and throw him in with the weakest mma fighter and that mma fighter will either choke, break or knock the karate master out LOL. im sorry to burst ur bubble but karate is pretty much useless in a REAL fight. naw she cant beat those other guy maybe just floyd LOL.
Ahhh ok. Now I understand the sweet science better, Thanks my friend.
How many more b1tches are going to try and gain fame by using floyd's name. ggg, khan, silva, rousey. enough already.
That said, I'd be careful. if she puts the armbar on any man's **** its gonna be a problem.
I don't even think thats possible, one str8 left or right hand from any man might drop her, never mind a P4P male boxer.
I don't she could take a punch from a female boxer.
Right... fact is, most women CAN'T fight.
However, you can't compare Rousey to the average female. She is a gold medalist and a professional fighter.
I ask you the same thing, let's be real. IF Rousey manages to get Mayweather on the ground which she will, she'd force him to submit. EASILY.
IF the fight was to take place in a boxing ring, it would be a different story. Wouldn't be surprised if Rousey caught Mayweather with something big though.
That is correct, if she was to catch him in a submission, then it might be game over.
Get real. She would break your arm in half in less than 30 seconds.
I can't even tell you how many times I have heard of females with Martial Arts or Karate training trying to protect themselves from street muggers or rapers...
I see it all the time on ID CHANNEL "well Stephanie did know Karate and she did not go down without a fight" and most of the time they can't even fight off a street mugger, never mind a boxer.
I know you hate Floyd, but lets be real.
The biggest problem I see-there are more replies in this thread than there are in the thread about canelo and angulo going face to face.
NSB-where Ronda rousey beating floyd is discussed more than the next ppv boxing match.
Well that's because it involves making Floyd look bad, if this was any other boxer being discussed, this thread would have been deleted by the Mods or already on the 2nd or 3rd page in the backlog history.
the four horsemen of pacquiao's era, morales, barrera, marquez and of course pacquiao. my man beat 'em all
I 100% disagree, non of them can be compared legacy or resume wise or even status to Thomas Hearns, Leonard, Duran or such.
Manny has wins against legends and HOF's, but not any ATGS..
Unless Antonio Margarito is a ATG.
He's a good young solid fighter.
Nice power, good boxing ability, knows how to cut of the ring, descent jab, better than what we can say for Berto or Broner...the 2 most recent hypejobs.
I agree. I don't think a loss will hurt either of them.
You don't think 2 BACK TO BACK losses would hurt Lucas?? That image the "Machine" would never be the truth again.
I can believe that Liston is easily one of the greatest HW's of all time, man was unstoppable and had scary power.
Ali is still a ATG though and could also easily be seen as one of the best, doesn't change my view of either man.
Help me understand something, I though Khan was a bum and glass chined?
Plus, stylistically he has a better chance of beating Floyd than Manny, so why does anyone want to see him fight Manny?
Poor guy's left without a fight at bare-boned Top Rank. (yes, I know he's not TR, but he's HBO, who only goes TR)
Damn shame. Nearly beats Bradley, beats the hell out of Alvarado, and is left with nothing. Hopefully they find a middle ground with Rios.
Thats sad itself, dude is a winner being forced to fight losers. Top Ranks stable is just bone dry, end of story.
What does he get by beating Brandon?? Dude is in a 2 loss lose streak, so not only is he fighting a loser, fighting Rios would mean the stable is so dry at Top Rank he's forced to fight someone coming off 2 loss.
Since Pacquiao does not care about money nor PPV buys like Mr. Mayweather, then he really needs to fight Porter or Thurman.
Fights are about style wise, and if Danny Garcia is too slow for Floyd Mayweather, he is defintely too slow for Manny Pacquiao.
Style wise...Porter or Thurman would be more dangerous.
So Danny G is a cherry pick in my opinion for EITHER fighter when it comes to stepping over Thurman or Porter
You have it going on.
You work in music, own a clothing label, and your son is a model? I mean congrats are you one successful guy.
You are really down to earth, I mean you have to be worth millions, and your on a forum with us regular people, im humbled.
Man why did you speak your mind on your own opinion? You know Truedoe was pretty sensitive, he probably has attempted suicide or had someone in his family do it.
Good thing you manned up and apologized though, there are sensitive people in this world.
Trindad James
Sensitive as f everybody
S.A.F.E
Hats off to Trudoe for being a man not afraid of admitting defeat to other men.
The discussion is about Garcia. Stick to it. You Manny haters would like to see him fight Kovalev at a catch weight of 165.
I can't believe you just compared, Keith Thurman or Shawn Porter to KOVALEV????? A SMW-LHW to other 147 fighters in Mannys own division???
So are you saying that Thurman or Porter are that dangerous that its like Manny shouldnt be required to fight other fighters in his weight class???????????????
In regards to the Cotto and De La Hoya fight Floyd did fight bigger and stronger versions of these two then Pacquiao and it wasn't at a catch weight. De La Hoya came in there drained as hell and was a dead man walking. Good points on the other comparisons though.
Wasnt Pac knocked down by Shane Mosley? I mean since we are going by official results such as Oscars split decision vs Mayweather in which most felt he clearly lost.
So I would have to say if we are going by the official results that May looked better against Mosley because he didn't knocked down.