You guys must understand none of these fighters will work with Bob Arum/Top Rank

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If AB is signed with GBP and Haymon and then goes off and fights Pacquiao for TR. GBP will sue him and his family for everything he has. Simple as that. No one is saying AB or any other fighter is leaving to Top Rank. But a promoter or "advisor" work for the fighter, not the other way around. If Arum sends and offer that are willing to work with Golden Boy and Shaefer or Haymon decide not to play ball against the wishes of the fighter then Broner can sue for a breach of contract as well. This in house fight nonsence only benefits the promoter, who don't have to split the profits or potential PPV upside. Outside of Mayweather these Haymon fighters are leaving potential huge paydays on the table by only fighting these showcase fights other than fighting the top guys in their division regardless of promotional affiliation. Its why I hope my boy Canelo does like Cotto and becomes a free agent in the near future, why limit your options when you have wide appeal and are in the prime of your career?

Screw Bob Arum. Golden Boy doesn't need Top Rank , it's the other way around! all TR has to offer is Manny Pacquiao , Juan Manuel Marquez , Timothy Bradley and Ruslan. Oscar is just doing all this **** because he feels betrayed by Richard , Al and em. They all need to sit down and work out their differences. Let Arum and RT die out with all their rematches and **** undercards or bend over to GBP's will. :boxing:

Vernon Forrest is dead He certainly won't be working with Bob Arum then.

Haymon advises his clients to sign on a fight by fight basis with promoters (IE GBP) for leverage. Thats a fact. A few may have promotion contracts they signed prior to being advised by Haymon but the majority dont. Tell me the last time anyone on that list fought someone at TR? Gbp promotions has a lot of these guys signed but there are some that were strictly haymon but on gbp under cards.. Gbp and tr haven't been doing business together but that's got nothing to do with Harmon.. Isn't Russell fighting lomochenko, didn't Lara fight vanes.. Didn't gbp and tr put on tons of big fights from 06-09 when al haymon was working with gbp.... Take a step back and realize that if relations between gbp and tr improve, their will be a lot of fights made between the 2... Al haymon is in charge of making his guys the most money, and if that means fighting tr guys, then so be it.. Money talks BS walks

What am I missing? Are these fighters as rich as Dela Hoya already, and can refuse fights because Haymon says no? We know for a fact that DLH is a rich guy. Two to three fights a year will still keep his company afloat. Even if that is not the case, DLH will still be fine. Is this an adult discussion or for seven-year olds? Show me how these fighters benefit for refusing to fight because of promotional differences. If AB is signed with GBP and Haymon and then goes off and fights Pacquiao for TR. GBP will sue him and his family for everything he has. Simple as that.

What am I missing? Are these fighters as rich as Dela Hoya already, and can refuse fights because Haymon says no? We know for a fact that DLH is a rich guy. Two to three fights a year will still keep his company afloat. Even if that is not the case, DLH will still be fine. Is this an adult discussion or for seven-year olds? Show me how these fighters benefit for refusing to fight because of promotional differences.

He has Diego DeLaHoya his nephew.... Nah, he's actually with Haymon.

So if Arum and Top Rank offer Broner $6 million to fight pacquiao he is going to listen to Haymon and take $1.2 to rematch Maidana or fight Danny Garcia?

People do seem to forget Oscar i think only has Canelo He has Diego DeLaHoya his nephew....

It's obvious these floydspastics don't want the cold war to end. What a dumb fanbase. Cgarcia what are you talking about? I am a Floyd fan and WANT the cold war to end.There could be a number of great fights made. I'm just creating discussion based off of what I have read through a variety of sources. I think its interesting how Schaefer/Haymon can't work with Arum. Then on the other hand does coke and pepsi work together? Show and HBO won't work together. If your a promoter and you have a star in your stable, is it worth risking his stock for the time being matching him up in a risky fight with another promoters fighter? At the end of the day $ is what drives professional sports, and especially boxing. These promoters trust me love the cold war..Why? Because in house fights means more $. Just another way to look at it. I want the cold war to end and I hope this Arum/De La Hoya discussion is the real deal.

They don't need to fight TR fighters. All they have to do is fight each other. What we've seen so far from Schaefer and Haymon is recyle Malignaggi and Judah. GBP got lots of fighters with recognizable names in the 140-147 division. Thurman, Broner, Matthysse, Guerrero, Berto, Garcia, Khan, Lopez, Ortiz, Peterson, Alexander, Porter, Maidana... Why are they not fighting each other? Broner is back fighting a nobodies. So is Matthysse, Khan, Guerrero, Thurman... GBP is broke.

why isnt edwin Valero included in OPs list?

Haymon advises his clients to sign on a fight by fight basis with promoters (IE GBP) for leverage. Thats a fact. A few may have promotion contracts they signed prior to being advised by Haymon but the majority dont. Tell me the last time anyone on that list fought someone at TR? So what are you saying? Do you want these fighters starve to death? Where do you want them to go?

People do seem to forget Oscar i think only has Canelo Oscar=GBP if there is a split. Do you think GB has one fighter under contract? I see at least 5 on that list that I know are with GB and im pretty sure there are others that I don't know of as well

I was like damn Al Haymon is keeping Vernon Forrest on contract for when the zombie apocalypse comes. Lmaoooooooo!!!!...jesus this made me laugh

It's obvious these floydspastics don't want the cold war to end. What a dumb fanbase.

Another stupid thread from a floydspastic.

Boxers hate the politics in the sport. Unless you are Floyd or Manny, you will chase the biggest fights even if they're with Arum. What you smoking?

that business model has the soulless ones in a rage..they were stealing from fighters by signing them to long term promotional contracts..look at what bob arum has done to manny.. the days of long-term promotional contracts is coming to an end..the promoter will be relegated to doing just that getting a percent of the fighters revenue for promoting.. the shenanigans of the past are over with..welcome to the al haymon era were fighters come first! I agree, where everyone can make money, and one side not be robbed completly blind.