Of course his resume is better than Conela's..
Conela ducked GGG so he lost to him....
Actually, only thing WORSE than losing....
IS DUCKING THE FIGHT.
Ducking is a detriment to the sport of boxing and only aids it's demise. Fighting people (win or lose) does not.
I would have continued to be a CONela fan if he didn't duck (not hard to be a fan with his beautiful style). I have very little tolerance for people who drop a world title to avoid a fight though.
P.S. I don't wanna hear 15 mil bullcrap.... he had a world title (most prestigious wbc title) and gave it away without ANY negotiation. Fact.
they both got hit...watch the tape...lol...no one ever notices kovalev got hit..:poke:
if you showboat your opponent is supposed to swing at you
Kovalev dont get no extra points for that lol
I am glad we agree.
I didn't give Kov any points, i simply took them off Ward for looking ugly in parts, throughout the fight.
If you're showboating, you are drawing your opponent into something or distracting them. Either way, you should be ready and gaurded with good balance.
Kov got 'suckered' into jabbing him, which landed on Wards face and made him stumble backwards.
5 seconds before this, Ward was bending below the waist. A real pugilist makes his oppoment miss by the smallest of margins, and doesn't need to have his head at waist level to avoid punches. I mean, this is acceptable for an average joe, but not what the best boxer on planet looks like imo.
Seriously. That's bs. How can they take some random lipservice as gospel? They need to use objective criteria's as they did in the Erdei case. Now they use the date of which canelo was asked a question by Jake Donovan. What if he had asked that question 2, 3 or 6 months ago? This is rubbish.
To become champ #1 mw needs to fight #2 mw..... but ONLY after some journo asks a question... LMAO!!!
Boxing is in shambles in our time period... About as clean and tidy as a butcher's slaughterhouse.
Guys just have to find a way to mention this guy bwahahaha
Corrales was ranked higher than Floyd p4p by ring magazine and was the betting favorite
Hatton was lineal champ @ 140 and former WBA ww titlist before facing Floyd.....also in everyone's top ten P4p
Although smaller, JMM was top 3 p4p at the time they fought
Manny was in the top ten p4p when they fought....so was Mosley until they fought
Come on bro....Floyd proved himself and his resume embarrasses every active guy today, not named Manny
Sorry bud, i caught ya. I was trolling trying to catch a larry but got 2 smaller fish instead.
So by this logic, Ward beat g string?
Oi lad, u have picked the WORST user name possible. I have read many of your posts and it does not suit you at all (in fact, you're boarderline ignore list).
Now, to your answer.
YES!!!! IF Golovkin dropped a world title to avoid Ward, then yes.
If Golovkin drops any world title belts to avoid any fighter, he is a ducking pu55y.
Get it? I hate ducking fighters, not fighters of certain groups, nationalities, races or religions.
Now f#@k off.
You fucking casuals make me sick.
1 Least Weasel
2 Honey Badger
3 Wolverine
You clearly DKSAP4P... Ban bet? I fkn dare ya!
;) #p4psucksdonkeyd1ck
I thought 'whoah... Koba giving it to them with both barrels' until i realized a level headed bloke like yourself would only talk like that when joking.
I want to say Ward because of all his achievements in the ring but when he tried to showboat his right hand to Kov and got jabbed in the face and stumbled backwards....
That is not what the best boxer on the planet looks like in my eyes.
Porter vs Berto this weekend. Good to see it's a 12 rounder, even with no title on the line.
Berto is going to have to show some decent ring generalship to keep Porter off of him, which is never easy against a come forward, pressure fighter.
Looking forward to this one.
Roger that.
Time to prove just because you are more popular, doesn't mean you are the better fighter.
Hoping all the stars align and this is foty worthy.....
or ginger gets knocked out in mid rounds.
Yo Kigali
A little off topic but i seen this video clip from a kiwi band the other day and made me think of you.
Shapeshifter - In colour
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Yx8VZvz1M
so basically he signed a contract with a crap promotional company?
thing is, seems like the real people in boxing knew who GGG was cause of olympics, amateurs, kovalev knew him.
im not sure thats good enough though, oh promotion problems, he was still fighting seems like, he has 35 fights. and why didnt a good promotional company sign him up? he was known by real boxing money makers and he seems to be making money now. why not 2010 though. who was he with?
Koba-Gronzy said it all. Here is an article to back up what he said.
http://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-explains-why-he-passed-on-signing-gennady-golovkin--109856
Koba also said GGG won't go down as an ATG, which looks unfortunatelty true.
On the flip side he came from middle class, rough mining town in Khazakstan.
Now US celebrities are a fan of him, including boxing enthusiasts worldwide. Tiple flop, Gaylovkin, Lil G doe
I expected the first few posts to say cutting the ring off.
CUT
THE
FKIN
RING
OFF
The amount of fighters who do this are numbered in single digits.
Kovalev is one p4p example. He is a 'stalker' and puts some pressure on, but he doesn't cut ring properly.
Who else apart from chocolatito and golovkin do this well?
Lol .. yeah, that is dumb!
I heard something almost as dumb as that from a workmate before Tyson Fury challenged Wlad for his world titles. This guy said that Wlad wasn't the real HW champion, and I assumed he was going to tell me that Deontay Wilder was the real champ.
But when I asked him if he was talking about Wilder, he looked blank for a second, then said, "Deontay Wilder? .. Is that his name? ... The American guy who knocked out Lennox Lewis?"
It turned out the name he was looking for was Shannon fucking Briggs!
Haha....wtf.
Classic!!
Maybe cos he beat the shiznit outa multiple women infront of small children
Just a thought
Floyd's skill and accomplishments in the ring can't be questioned...but...
What would never be found in the same sentence as Floyd's name?
For example:
-A sentence with Floyd's name and humility and/or modesty in it.
-Floyds name with principled
-Floyds name with philanthropy
-Floyds name with selflessness
The list goes on......
https://i.giphy.com/UOl0gWzZFnlUA.gif
the best
Hahaha lol.
I hadn't seen that before, thank you!
Now i understand where 'windmill Wilder' comes from.
I did get taught that punch, but only as a right hand, and even then I never used it.
My coach was telling me 'NO, stop bending your elbow and throw it like your bowling a cricket ball'
I respect resumes, nothing else matters to me when it comes to respecting fighters.
As far as who I like, it's a combination of who they beat and how they fight. Style, resume. That's it.
Everybody is different, if you like both GGG and Ward, great. It's not against the rules of boxing to like two rivals with two completely different styles and resumes. Just like it's not against the rules to dislike one fighter and like the other one.
Another thing is when a fighter is hyped up by a large group/consensus in the boxing community, is it warranted? Who did they beat? I look for that. For example the current P4P list excuse for some fighters there is "the eye test", "Do they look good" regardless of their resume. I don't agree with that, so i'm gonna argue against a lot of fighters being there without having to prove it. I don't like free passes cause you got some KO's against low class contenders.
I hope for as much as you respect a fighters resume, you disrespect fighters ducking more so. I'm not talking about avoiding fighters, but clearly ducking; ie madatory challengers.
If a fighter clearly ducks, he is not allowing the other fighter to have a chance to beat him, which is a detriment to the sport. The boxing community can only go on the eye test, and you don't respect that, thus the cycle continues.
For me, Fraizer > Ali. I know people won't agree with me
Common knowledge but...
Frazier wanted to come out in the 15th round of their 3rd fight but Eddie Futch did not let that happen.
Ali on the other hand was saying he'd had enough, but his corner would not let him quit.
If Frazier was allowed to come out in the 15th, we could well have a different heavyweight/boxing history. Either way, at worst Frazier is a bee's dick behind Ali.
One spanish translator employed by HBO, same one who was with conela when he said mexicans don't f-ck around, i'll fight you tonight, fight for pride.. blah blah blah.
Golovkin speaks russian, german, kazakh, spanglish, and rough enough english.
Alvarez speaks spanish, the 2nd most spoken lanuage in the world (around 20 countries), and nowdays north america has more spanish speakers than spain.
/end thread
Man 50 years from now 'ol greybeard Larry gonna be sat with a gaggle of grandkids telling 'em (in an old, wise Morgan Freeman voice) about how great it was to be alive when Floyd was active and how they won the Great War with the Pactards in that fine spring of '15...
No Koba, that's what rational people will be saying.
Larry will still be jerking off to a poster of floyd on his wall.
Six degrees of Floyd, featuring Larry. Watch as every boxing topic somehow traces back to Floyd.
Allegedly, Larry would suck Floyds c0ck if Floyd let him.
You tell em Maxi. You shouldn't wait until you're 34 years old and 36-0 to fight the best! Especially when you've had over 300 amateur fights
If you have had 50 amateur fights, put your hand up.
If you've had 100, keep your hand up.... what about 200 fights???
300 fights, please put your hand clearly up. Over 350 amateur fights, keep that fukin hand up.
Now, those with their hand up... how many have had over 35 pro fights??
How many have won 3 world titles??
Ok, those with their hand still in the air, feel free to criticise. Go hard without repercussion.
The rest of you keyboard warriors can shut the f@#k up.
I'll take the under on 50 posts that aren't his or people arguing about something else that gets extended.
Manny trolling is just like Floyd trolling. Everything has been said so you gotta up your game when you mention either of those guys. Pre-2015 there were 20 arguments a day about those guys & every topic would go into some argument about Floyd & Manny somehow, someway.
So like once you start hogtying your girl while using buttplugs, a industrial strength magic wand + a live eel in the room you can't go back to missionary style you can only add a turtle & p#ssy lip clamps you gotta up your game & not mention some old sh^t with Floyd or Manny trolling.
Be creative young trolls. Believe, achieve & succeed. Don't copy, be stale & fail.
LOL
Classic...poetry right here!!!
You've obviously taken a fair amount of drugs when you were younger too!
C- troll thread.
C'mon man, i think you are being harsh with that grade.
He has mentioned Floyd - has fl0mos on board. He mentioned pac - so the p4ctards/Philo's are on board. He mentioned Horn - Aussie and NZ posters also on board.
He got a few bases covered for a successful troll thread.
I am giving him a B+ troll thread, expecting 50+ posts.
I honestly don't know what you are writing, this is GGG related thread l, not your fantasies kid.
What he is trying to say is:
Where was the 15 mil offer when GGG was mandatory challenger?
CONela vacated the title without negotiating or sending any contracts. This was after he needed to grow into the division first, then chose to fight Kahn.
No one knows if weight was a real issue as there were ZERO negotiations for his mandatory challenger GGG. He gave up that title like a pu55y.
The human brain is an interesting organ....how people can be so fukin narrow minded and not be able to 'read between the lines' amazes me.
If I was promoting GGG at that time I would be trying to get a purse bid instead of negotiating so that either GGG got the belt from it being vacated or a purse split he didn't deserve. Plus you could say the other guy ducked you if he vacated.
If you were the easy 70/30 A side would you give your opponent an unfair purse split or drop a belt?
I'm getting déjà vu. It sounds like your talking about what Golovkin could have done to Jacobs. Forced the purse bid and forced Jacobs to vacate. Instead, Golovkin NEGOTIATES, overpays, and actually fights his mandatory challengers.
I would want to hold on to the wbc (most prestigious, MEXICAN abc org) world title, wouldn't you?
I wouldn't hand it over if i was getting over 55%, that's just being greedy. K2 don't make the rules, they play by them, and some.
I never saw in him what others did, so personally, he's at the bottom or out. But, I can understand why others would still keep him between 10 and 7.
Is your #1 Andre Ward?