Who do you have as P4P #1 right now?

Vacant. Or Ward. I'd rather wait until the rematch. P4P is opinion based at the end of the day. I had Ward winning by one point against Kovalev, but that was a very controversial fight to score. A rematch is needed. Not just that, but I had Roman G. winning his fight clearly as well, in a non-controversial way. Still haven't watched it again, but I thought he clearly won and was surprised first time watching it. Had Ward lost, and Roman G won, it would be Roman G. But now I'm kind of iffy about it. Kovalev doesnt get #1 for beating Ward either, imo. It's a cluster**** right now, Ward probably deserves it, but I feel it was a 51/49 fight for either side, and I feel Roman G got robbed so ehhh.

Fair enough. For me, I am saying I believe he is the best based on what I've seen. He still has to prove it. Lets sit back and enjoy the clinics he puts on until he gets those fights....I enjoy studying him

Indeed my friend. My coach and boxing family love some Loma...I'm high on him too...just don't want to be overzealous... Watch his career play out before anointing him Fair enough. For me, I am saying I believe he is the best based on what I've seen. He still has to prove it.

It's true his resume can't stack up to those guys yet, but Walters and Russell are no joke (even if Loma made them look like it). I can agree though, a win over Garcia would solidify it. Indeed my friend. My coach and boxing family love some Loma...I'm high on him too...just don't want to be overzealous... Watch his career play out before anointing him

He is awesome but his level of competition is also why he is so dominant He hasn't faced the type of comp Kov, ward, chocolatito, canelo has faced If he unifies 130 or beats Garcia He is my #1 for sure then It's true his resume can't stack up to those guys yet, but Walters and Russell are no joke (even if Loma made them look like it). I can agree though, a win over Garcia would solidify it.

you cant be p4p#1 without ever having faced and beaten another p4p fighter...

Ward..........

I have Loma based on skill and dominance over his opponents. Without a question, he is the most dominant guy in the sport p4p. Ward would have it, but I can't justify him at number one since I don't think he deserved that win at all. He is awesome but his level of competition is also why he is so dominant He hasn't faced the type of comp Kov, ward, chocolatito, canelo has faced If he unifies 130 or beats Garcia He is my #1 for sure then

I have Loma based on skill and dominance over his opponents. Without a question, he is the most dominant guy in the sport p4p. Ward would have it, but I can't justify him at number one since I don't think he deserved that win at all.

I am glad we agree. I didn't give Kov any points, i simply took them off Ward for looking ugly in parts, throughout the fight. If you're showboating, you are drawing your opponent into something or distracting them. Either way, you should be ready and gaurded with good balance. Kov got 'suckered' into jabbing him, which landed on Wards face and made him stumble backwards. 5 seconds before this, Ward was bending below the waist. A real pugilist makes his oppoment miss by the smallest of margins, and doesn't need to have his head at waist level to avoid punches. I mean, this is acceptable for an average joe, but not what the best boxer on planet looks like imo. Ward slipped jabs inside(left), on the outside(to his right and countered to the body with a jab) , parried them to counter and cheek rolled them( like that right hand Jones had to correct lampley on NOT landing) from the outside moving laterally A lot of that stuff gets unnoticed by untrained eyes...not saying you, but a lot of casual fans dont even understand what theyre watching Both guys did some top notch moves in there I thoroughly enjoyed the fight

pfp is based on your opinion, correct. Well in my opinion, Chocolatito clearly won, so he retains the #1 spot. In my opinion, Kovalev won too, so he's #2a, Ward is 2b. Bud is #4, GGG is #5 I agree that a clear winner of Kova - Ward II will take over #1.

I still have Roman Gonzalez at the top by a narrow margin over Thurman.

Nobody honestly, I dont think any one fighter stands out enough to put themselves that far above the rest of boxing. In fact I dont think that happens very often.

idk tie between huerta and sutherland i guess rainford #2 Please Huerta is 4x the man that Brian Sutherland is. Huerta punches 8x faster than Roy Jones Jr. He has 3x the power of a prime Alaskan Bull worm. Huerta would've retired Sutherland if he didn't go off to join the Navy Seals.

they both got hit...watch the tape...lol...no one ever notices kovalev got hit..:poke: if you showboat your opponent is supposed to swing at you Kovalev dont get no extra points for that lol I am glad we agree. I didn't give Kov any points, i simply took them off Ward for looking ugly in parts, throughout the fight. If you're showboating, you are drawing your opponent into something or distracting them. Either way, you should be ready and gaurded with good balance. Kov got 'suckered' into jabbing him, which landed on Wards face and made him stumble backwards. 5 seconds before this, Ward was bending below the waist. A real pugilist makes his oppoment miss by the smallest of margins, and doesn't need to have his head at waist level to avoid punches. I mean, this is acceptable for an average joe, but not what the best boxer on planet looks like imo.

I want to say Ward because of all his achievements in the ring but when he tried to showboat his right hand to Kov and got jabbed in the face and stumbled backwards.... That is not what the best boxer on the planet looks like in my eyes. they both got hit...watch the tape...lol...no one ever notices kovalev got hit..:poke: if you showboat your opponent is supposed to swing at you Kovalev dont get no extra points for that lol

Who's P4P #1 to you right? I somehow forgot to add Canelo, so if you think it's him just post him in a thread post. Ward longevity can fight any type of style necessary to win a fight has the highest ring IQ since Mayweather...he has shown he can adapt mid fight and impose his will his has a layer of skills....can catch and counter, potshot, fight inside, roll shots with his shoulders, or cheek roll shots, use basic style or shoulder roll, great jab and left hook, has good chin and recovery powers....he is very elusive and doesnt take many clean shots, even Has a top notch resume and should solidify it in June vs Kovalev

I want to say Ward because of all his achievements in the ring but when he tried to showboat his right hand to Kov and got jabbed in the face and stumbled backwards.... That is not what the best boxer on the planet looks like in my eyes.

conor mcgregor

Not sure between Ward, Kovalev and GGG. (Clear) winner of Ward-Kovalev will be No. 1. Then the winner of GGG-Canelo could change that, depending how the fight goes.