Roy beat an over-weight Toney and a riped Benard, its a shame they couldnt fight when Benard was at his best!!!Jones Jr is all hype, i cant think of a guy that ducked more fighters then this guy.
Your another one thats nuts who did Roy duck u cant say he was duckin bernard if he beat him already. Now everybody wants to fight Roy cause they saw him exposed but n his prime these guys wanted no part of him Calzage wasnt even thinkin bout roy n his prime cause he knew his ass would have got knocked out
yea but any of the top boxers in welter division are not flat footed brawlers like dlh and baldomir tha can be outboxed...
not trying to play you or nething but wut do u mean that they will beat him or he will win?
cotto might be an easier opponent IMO, and would generate far more money
but with cotto's style it would kill mayweather just look at the first Mayweather Castillo fight............cotto and castillo fight sort of similar but cotto is more aggresive and hits way harder
true, plus cotto is in his prime and younger than pbf....there is really no easy way out in this division
but take this into consideration and i mite start a new thread talkin bout this...............do u think mayweather thought about retirement cause he looked at the comp n the welterweight division and said i might lose against one of these guys
If Hopkins beats Winky, another top name or two. Why wouldn't he be better than Jones? He's better than him to me, personally, anyway. Longer reign, longevity, better overall skills, didn't duck anyone (if you wanna count Jones or Calzaghe, realize it was a money thing more than anything else..).. and I just like his style much better. Never been seriously killed in a fight like Jones either. Especially not back to back.. (Though I never saw Hopkins first fight/loss)
To me, personally..
..Jones < Hopkins...
Is this guy serious did u say Hopkins is better skilled u need to b shot n your ass n Roy's prime he never ever got hit and he barely lost round........ n the olympics he went through them without losing a round and then he gets that bum ass decision which everyone knows he won. Come on how can u say Hop is betta than Roy when Hop has the label of being borin. Roy put on a show everytime he stepped n the ring just go to youtube and see who has better highlights
Sorry everyone but Jones will beat him.... Hopkins is old and he showed it last nite the way he fought. I believe Roy still has about 3 good fights left in him. He says he is hungry again which i believe he looked damn impressive for a guy that is supposed to b washed up against hanshaw. In order for Roy to put on a good fight he needs to have great comp and Bernard is that guy that will get him up.
Clearly Winky got robbed last nite...........from what i saw hopkins barely hit him with his fists he hit him with his head the whole fight. Like winky said after the fight i proved to yall that he is dirty all he did was head butt and hold..........Did u see them sneaky low blows he gave winky too i dont understand how ne one can give Bernard his props he is the dirtiest fighter n the game today.........and the ugliest. I hope someone knocks him out soon im praying for that
IMO......yes he does not want to risk his legacy....therfore he simply says that he has no more to prove in the sport of boxing...c'mon these are his prime years, why retire ???? that's one of the reasons I think he retired, the welterweight division evolved to be the weight class not to be in....
exactly cause when i heard he was retiring i said there has to be a reason and i couldnt put my finger on it and BAM he sees the com in his division and he says naw i cant beat none of them i have to go lol Floyd is very good at makin ppl believe 1 thing while he belives another lol
I'm just looking forward to these fights. Floyd has held onto his welter belt. It will be very hard for him to relinquish without it being seen as a fearful move. He is going to have to face a couple of them to allay criticism.
Much as I dislike the man I will give him great credit if he takes on Williams and Cotto in that order. Your fighters with testicles would head for the most dominant almost immediately. Can you imagine Duran, DLH or say Hagler avoiding the hottest prospect(s) on the block?
C'mon Floyd. I am negative about you purely because I want you to be as good as you say you are. And don't forget. Losing does not exclude you from greatness. Would any Floyd haters NOT immediately recant their position if he called out Williams today?
Probably those few who are desperately hoping Mosley can beat Floyd. Well Mosley is old, inactive and faded. Mosley's chances of beating Floyd are very borderline.
I don't want Floyd to get beat. I just want Floyd to USE his talent.
very good points if he gives up his WBC title without fightin any of them....i will look at Floyd as just an overrated boxer who piked opponents he knew he could beat..........But if floyd beats them i say he is one of the greatest ever
Fuck Mosley he missed his chance.
and see everyone wants to question how great floyd is. And comments like these show y he is not great. Mosley is the best fight mayweather can make rite now. The money well be great the fight will have great hype but for some reason floyd does not want to fight this man. He'll rather fight Hatton and make a low 5 million than fight mosley which would guarantee him at least 10 million. I question this guy Floyd is he scared?????????
Hopkins has been a smart businessman. He's great at fighting big names who have some sort of disadvantage. Whether it be a blown up Welterweight, or an overrated Tarver. There's a reason he didnt fight Winky at Middleweight.
i totally agree if he fought trinidad or oscar at their normal weight which is welterweight he would have got owned. Now he making winky move up 10 pounds this guy Hopkins is a joke and i have never looked at him as ever being one of the best he got owned by taylor twice and lost his first fight, Jones kicked his ass.
Big difference my friend, there was a rematch that fight and Taylor is the younger fighter.U can make a case that Jones Jr is 3rd to 4th best of this generation.His lack of big names in the second half of his career killed him.He kept ducking the big name fighters.
ok so name the fighter he ducked
All im saying is that the WW division is very dangerous rite now and by the looks of it Floyd is scared...........He chose hatton....over Mosley, and Cotto. 2 fight that would have generated way more money that hatton.
I totally agree. Roy whups Glen easily now.
I disagree once you are knocked out by a guy you cant fight him with the same aggresiveness u fought him wit the first time b4 u were knocked out. Glen Johnson has a mental advantage over Roy and he left roy on the canvas for almost 3 mins thats devestating.
I say Glen wins by decision this fight. ex did u see how roy fought Tarver in Tarver Jones 3
again we disagree. Did tou ever see lennox lewis-oliver McCall 2. How bout lewis-Rahman 2? I believe the 2nd time around was quite different than the first. Both were after Lewis had been starched the first time.
Ok but thats a good point but look at a dude who gets knocked out twice n a row and then think about how u gon feel after those fights example
I love boxing, it’s by far one of my favorite sports. But as much as I love the sport I think the vast majority of the comments and the analysis that boxers provide are meaningless. Here are some of the typical comments that are made:
1. “He’s ducking me.”
2. “He hasn’t fought anyone.”
3. “He hasn’t any power,” or, “He hasn’t any skills,”
4. “I give him credit but (add in any excuse you can that actually takes away credit from your opponent’s victory)
5. Repeat any of the above in a slightly different way.
Seriously, it’s the one sport where I think interviews are worthless. There hardly isn’t any honesty about your opponent or how you yourself fought. I understand this to a point, but after a while it’s just boring to listen to. I think it turns off fans as well. But then again maybe I’m wrong, maybe it pumps you up as a fan to hear your favorite boxer talk “big”. Maybe I’m just missing the point. What do you guy’s think?
I love it when boxers talk lol its funny because u get to see their personality ( i always have a great laugh when James Toney talks lol)
Roy Jones Jr. admitted through his attorney that he tested positive and did take steroids. That is a fact.
He has also been rumored to be a client of BALCO. Now, unlike Mosely who was asked to testify before congress there has not been any official verification of this so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But I will say the fact he has used steroids does not help to refute that he was in fact a client.
Therefore, even the most obstinate fan of his has to admit that it is hard to ignore the connection between his sudden downfall and the recent effort to drive steroids out of professional sports. He still has talent as his last win suggested but nothing like he was, and it was too sudden of a collapse to simply blame on age.
You connect the dots.
Thank you 35 is not really the age where boxer all the sudden crumbles when u got evander, bernard, and toney all doin they thing
I think he would have gotten his ass kicked if he wasn't on roids against ruiz. Ruiz sucks but thats besides the point, the point is that Roy is not a natural heavyweight and his chin was made of steel that night... Roids jones jr... HOPKINS IS NUMBER 1, not Roids Jones Jr.
I trully agree yall gotta memba roy started out his career at 160 and he fights a guy that weighs about 220 and he doesnt even get wobbled or nuthin against a HEAVYWEIGHT but he meet tarver a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT and gets K Oed and he was fresh n that fight it was only the second round and he couldnt even get up i could see if he was tired or drained
Dangerous
I think this fight is very dangerous for Mosley for many reasons
1. Cotto for some reason has very good power at the welterweight division i belive he is the strongest in that division.
2. Mosley is not Mosley anymore and i dont think he has the power to seriuosly hurt cotto.
3 Finally constant pressure is the weakness of most boxers today and Cotto will constantly pressure mosley forcing him to go backward which will in due time lead to a knockout
If this fight ever happend Cotto by knockout in the 10th
And i knew someone was gon say that but wit floyd we talkin bout 5 to 7 pound gains n like 5 months i think ne body on this forum can do that but with Roy he went from 175 to 193 n 5 months no fat gain or nuthin just pure muscle and he took o lot of ruizs punches and didnt wobble or nuthin but when he meets tarver he dissapears (and he fights tarver after the balco lab closes)..........Ruiz was b4 and i think steriods can help u bulk up without the gain of fat
but check this out he looked good n tarver Jones 3 sticking out his tongue and wiggling his hips lmao but when tarver caught him n the 11th with that rite hook wut happened he went from wigglin hips to wiggly knees and blinkin eyes im jus sayin since after ruiz he is 2-3-0kos
he had to drop all the weight frm movin up to heavy.. is why he was fatigued in the ring.. we see you may be a roy hater... but eaze up on the bullshit..
Naw im not a Roy hater homeboy i actually idolized him at some time but i hate cheaters especially n a sport like this in which roids can be such a advantage. U wanna bring up the weight issue Tarver did the same thing after playing in Rocky in which they say he blew up to 218 when he came bak to 175 y didnt b hop knock him out?????????????
u no i hear everybody say it could lead to a DLH fight it just sickens me. All DLH is about is money and nuthin else since he became a CEO he has lost his hunger i belive and old DLH easily beats mayweather but he is nuthin now i prefer to see evander than DLH
Now that some Boxing Commissions are testing for what BALCO was providing these fighters and other substances, Roy Jones Jr. hasn’t looked the same and it hurts me to say that but it’s true. <---------- there is my point rite there
Well look at those 2 boxers Shane and Roy and from reading many articles i tend to believe these facts. Shane and Roy are getting up there in age Roy 38 and Shane 35 and over the years these fighter have moved up in many weight divisions and have not shown any body fat....at all and every one nows when u move up u lose all those cuts. And after the Balco lab closed did u see shane against winky? he was standing there throwning one punch at a time no combos no feints no nuthin. Thats not the shane im used to. And Roy ha lol did u see tarver vs. Jones 1 did u see how tired he was in between those rounds i never seen him like dat what happened to all that power he once had which made boxers fear him. I mean Antonio Tarver or Glen Johnson are not known for their punching power at all but when they hit Roy poof like magic he was gon just like dat...........There is something fishy about this
I say Cotto knocks this guy out easy...........did u see the p williams vs Marg fight...P williams gets hit to much and with a puncher like Cotto he would get knocked out i mean cotto gets hit a lot to but i dont see a lot of power n p williams punches. He hit marg wit some stuff but at the end of the fight did u see marg's face.