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He's not openly gay. He's never admitted to being gay. He's never been found with a gay lover. He has been found with a women however. If he's gay, Michael Jackson was super gay.

People gotta recognize that this was the Pacquiao that lost to Morales and Marquez and got rocked by Oscar Larios. This is the same Oscar Larios who actually jumped 2 weight divisions to fight Pacquiao after getting destroyed by Israel Vasquez in 3 rounds. He went 12 with Pacquiao. Casamayor UD.

175 is not nearly as bad as people like to pretend it is. Dawson is fooling himself if he thinks he's making 168 without bad side effects, the man comes into the ring 190+ for all his fights. He can fight Tavoris Cloud, Zsolt Erdei, Vyacheslav Uzelkov after he beats Shumenov, or Juergen Braehmer. 3 of those fights are unification fights, and that should be his primary goal. When he's done, guys from the Super Six will be moving up to fight him for the undisputed LHW Championship. He'll be too tempting to resist.

Of course he is.

People still suckin Roy's dick... What happens after he beats a washed up Lacy? God I'm not prepared to see the hype yet again. :grumble:

Quartey got robbed against both De La Hoya and Forrest. Had he not he'd surely make the HOF. Quartey truly ducked no one, and was dominated by no one. Very under rated fighter. But his fight against Winky wasn't all that significant since he didn't have a remote chance of winning and Winky didn't have much to gain from beating him.

I think Ayala had the better career. His wins over Tapia were against a fighter at his peak and the best in the division. Can't remember which fight, but I thought Tapia took one of them. Both were razor thin and great fights. I think the Wright fight was worth more to answer the second part of our question. Ike was closer to his best weight. .................. Ike's best weight was 147 lbs....he fought Winky @ 160.

If Cotto wants to win this fight he will need to take lessons from his buddy the Iron Boy. But we all know that just isn't going to happen.

now you're red That's nice crybaby. :rofl:

Yes but you have to remember that styles makes fights and Floyd is ALL wrong for Cotto. Cotto = Crap stamina, easy to hit, slow foot speed but decent hand speed, questionable chin. Power and size are a plus. Floyd = EXCELLENT stamina, speed and defense. Decent power and can adapt to any style. Floyd hasn't been outboxed. He has been pressured before but has victories against fighters who tried to pressure him. Zab had early success but Cotto is not fast enough nor a southpaw to try and replicate the same success. Good points. Cotto can't outbox Floyd and he isn't active or good enough at cutting off the ring to keep Floyd on the ropes. Mosley has a better chance of winning because Mosley will rough Mayweather up and has the handspeed and explosiveness to blitz him. Cotto's just going to throw by the book methodical punches and hope they land. Punches that aren't even all that fast. Takes more than that to connect on Floyd. I asked you how you are so sure floyd has great stamina if it's never been tested and you still haven't answered it. You bash cotto's stamina against margarito and ask when floyd has been gassed and I ask you when floyd has been pressured they way cotto was that night and you still haven't answered. Floyd is always in good shape but he's never had a guy walk him down, walk throug his punches and pound him non stop to the body throwing a hundred punches a round. Floyd has never gone through that. So don't compare cotto's stamina that night to floyds stamina. And that wasn't even cotto's stamina that night, it was more him getting pounded and not being to fight anymore. I thought cotto showed GREAT stamina that night. The pressure he endured, the punches he took and threw all show how great his stamina was that night. Fuken margarito was running at times twards cotto. Margarito's stamina shits on floyd's. He's never gone through it because he stops it from happening. If he fought stupid like Cotto did against Margarito, guys like Chavez and N'dou would have pulled this off, who managed to do it for a couple rounds anyways.

The Matthew Hatton fight is setting up a fight with Ricky Hatton maybe. I got Zab KOing Ricky if it goes down.

Because they're setting up a fight with Mosley as we speak.

He KOs both. If he fights Wlad first, he can KO both in the same night.

Dawson clearly wins but it will be exciting as hell.

Mosley. Cotto and Margarito have the size and power to be effective, but not the speed. Pac has the speed, but not the size and power. Mosley has everything. Not to mention Floyd's performance against African American fighters has always had it's shortcomings, and none of those guys was close to being on Shane's level.

Meldrick Taylor isn't exactly famous enough to just call him Taylor. There's a lot of Taylors.

I rate him in the top 10. p4p, among these 10 Heavyweights, I'd rate him in the top 5.

Liston would KO Wlad with his jab. So, I'm going to go with Liston. Slower, but better.

uh,,,,ok dude. wlad isnt 200 lbs soaking wet like listons little victims You've clearly never watched Liston vs Cleveland Williams.

lmao they were all waaaay past their primes....he beat them all in their 2nd careers.... and actually isnt ali the first 4 time heavyweight champ? Ali is a 3 time. The 3rd time is a total farce tho. He had no business losing to Leon Spinks in the first place. Spinks couldn't win another meaningful fight forevermore. And he was green when he fought Ali!

who says hes gonna beat chambers? Indubitably.

Too close to call. Spinks is the bigger man, that's why he can compete with Middleweights while Zab can't. Also, JT was never an elite fighter. Semi-elite at his best, and now merely B level.

People criticize Bowe's level of opposition for an excuse as to why Wlad would win. :rofl: Prime Holyfield > Wlad's whole resume Check Wlad's record against a guy who's reach is as long as him.

I remember Cotto vs Margarito being on regular HBO, not HBO PPV. Perhaps it was also on Top Rank PPV? Those don't count.

Watch lewis ktfo bowe lol When a guy is knocked the **** out, he usually falls down. He doesn't walk around calmly like nothing bad happened.

Povetkin'd mop the floor with Arreola or Haye. So would Dimitrenko. Arreola is an abosolutely horrendous style matchup for Povetkin. Povetkin counts on being able to take a good punch while throwing a lot of punches of his own. Problem is, Arreola does the same thing, and is the bigger puncher / better combination puncher. Guaranteed Povetkin gets KOed. And Dimitrenko is about to get schooled by Eddie Chambers, so you can forget all about him. :boxing:

He was a coward who was shit scasred of lewis, he got battered gy golota and sucked His prime was short. He was never scared. He just lacked motivation. Eddie Futch thought he was the greatest fighter he ever trained. His overall career wasn't great, but his talent was. And I do believe the question asked was prime vs prime. Who came remotely close to derailing a prime Bowe? I rest my case.

Im not a bowe hater, but it is stupid the way people put him in the "elite" category, with the atg h/w's he was a lvel below, with briggs and golota .... Those guys are NO WHERE NEAR rated as high as Bowe, by ANY historian. Even the most crack pot historians to ever walk the face of the earth wouldn't rate him that low. He's WIDELY considered a top 20 Heavyweight. That's the god honest truth.

Klits and Arreola KO him.

Yeah, I checked. Wlad boxed 4x against reachier guys than himself. He KOed all of them. And now? Did you try to tell us something? The next step is to list their names.