So let me get this straight. It is not okay for Floyd to fight the #2 P4P fighter in the world in his come back fight.. despite the fact they started 4 pounds apart from each other. But.. it is ok for Cotto to fight Pac???? why isnt' there a damn uproar about this? Some of the people on this site are a joke. Double standards are every where.
The truth is that PBF is as controversial as it can get in boxing...which translates in more money and interest from the fans and haters...smartest self-manage boxer...like it or not.
As a PBF fan I really expect him to comeback and fight the top contenders at the weight he fights...it's just a matter of time...after having a tune up, no disrespect to JMM but that's what that fight really is.
Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito and split with promoter Bob Arum
Mayweather earned $8 million for the fight, while Baldomir was paid $1.6 million. Both were career highs in earnings for each fighter at the time.
Mayweather says money was the issue for not fighting margarito....it was?
yaaaaawnn....same BS
There is a flip side to this coin. Pacquiao is the KING. THE BEST. P4P #1 Boxer In The World! This is Pacs world Cotto just live in it. THE END!
You definitely live in PAC-FANTASY-LAND....
It has nothing to really do with preference. If your going to be unbiased, then preference is thrown out the window.
Gatti put up a defense, it was just picked apart. Mayweather kept hitting the holes. He went head and body, so it was difficult to figure out where the punches were comming. Thus, Gatti looked like he had no defense.
Pacquiao was just head hunting. You can defend against head hunters easier because they just go for the head. Add that pacquiao only threw straights. Even easier to block and dodge. Thats defensive boxing 101.
That is a fail. Pacquiao's was just flashier and landed very little. 4 out of 13 is a low percentage. He landed two, got blocked 3x, dodged 2x, then landed another 2 punches.
Mayweather landed every punch. High and low made it to where Gatti couldn't defend. He didn't know where they were going to hit.
You can't put it any better....good post
And if he thinks he can reclaim the p4p number one spot from this fight, he can go fukk himself.
He has no dignity.
Like Pacman not wanting to fight Cotto at 147 lbs as he did with De la hoya...P4P KING...guess both need the edge to secure next mega fight between them...
ROACH QUIETLY PREDICTS A PACQUIAO WIN IN TEN
Ben Thompson
9/11/2009
Although world-class trainer Freddie Roach readily admits that Miguel Cotto will be the most difficult fight to date for pound-for-pound champion Manny Pacquiao, his confidence in his star pupil remains unwavering. At yesterday's press conference to kickoff the promotional tour, a fan shouted out to Roach, asking for his prediction for the fight. Without saying a word, Roach simply smiled and held up ten fingers, hinting that the bout would not go past the tenth round.
In previous interviews, Roach has offered nothing but praise for the Puerto Rican superstar, admitting that Cotto's size and strength would likely prevent a knockout victory. "This is the hardest fight of our life. I believe that 100%. I don't think we can win by knock out this time. I think we will win via a decision. This guy is a game, tough guy. He has already been in camp for three weeks. If he wins this fight everything bad that has happened in his career goes away. This is the fight of his life," Roach stated as he spoke to Scott Dryden of profighting-fans.com.
The fact that Roach suggested that the fight wouldn't go the distance is a stark contrast to what he's been saying thus far. Now that he's reunited with Pacquiao after last speaking to him nearly four weeks ago, perhaps Roach is feeling more confident knowing that training will begin shortly. "We begin September 20th and that will give us eight weeks, which is our normal period of training. We're already running in the mornings, but I don't want to start too early. We always start eight weeks before and that's what we will do," Roach added.
With the promotional tour officially started, it appears that both Pacquiao and Roach are now on the same page as they begin to focus on the task at hand come November 14th. Having already predicted the outcome of Pacquiao's fights with Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya, it will be truly amazing if another one of Roach's predictions comes to fruition. If Pacquiao can stop Cotto in ten, he'll leave little room for argument that he truly is the best pound-for-pound boxer on the planet.
Source: http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content5659.html
If PAC couldn't finish Marquez I don't see him KO Cotto...
After watching last nights fight, I am totally convinced that Mayweather is going to dominate Pacquiao. He would just pick up Pacquiao piece by piece in each round.
Look at this pic, this is an example of what he would do while Pacquiao is coming forward like a bull:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2edzjar.jpg
What you think?
Every problem that JMM gave PAC, PBF is way better by far; stronger, faster, better counterpuncher, more elusive...
I know styles make fights...but everything points toward PBF
Come on. The dude drinks piss for this fight... He definately want's to win it.
lol, damn right, he's not planning on just a payday...it's going to be really interesting with Mayweather trying to showoff and Marquez trying to win against all odds...
yes.
mayweather-williams is better than pacquiao-clottey.
yes.
mayweather-bradley is better than pacquiao-clottey.
yes.
mayweather-mosley is better than pacquiao-clottey.
yes.
mayweather-berto is better than pacquiao-clottey.
only problem is , pacquiao is actually fighting clottey.
and mayweather ain't fighting any of those guys people want him to fight.
LOL...good point...let's wait and see
Team Mayweather would just have a clause in the contract that would make Manny forfeit all purse winnings and be banned by the commission if he were to test positive and found to be guilty.
Just my guess.
That's a good option, but I guess we'll have to wait because is not getting made...anyway if they were in fact previously cheating will never sign it...similar to what happened...LOL
Let me tell you, this guy is good but he has nothing on Floyd Mayweather Jr, nothing. Floyd is incredibly good, even when compared with Leonard. Speed, accuracy and tatics, Floyd is incredibly good all around. When he's gone people will start to notice that when 10 years go by and no one like him comes along.
I agree with you, also with pernell defense, I see PBF a lot better.
Arum didnt want Pac-mayweather to happen yet.
perhaps because he wants to hype the fight even more or he wants to get as much $ from pac because he probably thinks Mayweather will beat Manny
who knows
Arum and GBP have everything programmed...look Clotey lost to Cotto, now Clottey gets to fight PAC and have a huge Pay, PBF will fight another GBP fighter (marquez gets more PPV rating and gets Hatton), after that maybe Mosley (Big $PPV), and after that they´ll meet at the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011...Instead of milking 1 fight and loosing one of them PPV and rep power a bit, they will get 1 fight in PAC or probably 2, same to PBF before the final and biggest money fight...along with more promotion time.
More time for Roach to prepare PAC to PBF style, as he previously said, and as Bhop said that it wouldn´t happen early 2010, PAC camp didn´t want the fight now, afraid to loose or whatever reason Arum has...we were played...LOL
Again, Pac dont want to take the test so close to the fight because it will weaken him and effect his training for 3 days or so in his mind. WHich he cant afford in this fight of such magnitude.
Pac cant take any chances now, as too much at stake.
WTF?? you guys are deaf, blind or truly dumb, PAC´s Team is full of contradictions and lies, Mayweather´s Camp has nothing to do with the fact that a lot of Fans are doubting his fighter and ¨hero of asia¨for various reasons...
He´s trainer said 5 days, now he won´t take 14 days...forget about who´s fault is it, take the tests and kick PBF´s A$$??? end of story.
With all due respect to PAC hardcore fans, accept the fact that the fight can be made by agreeing to terms in between what both camps wanted, which is the new date, 14 days, SO THE FIGHT IS NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE OF PAC NO PBF...forget about all what´s behind... PAC as of now is ducking PBF, and proposing alternate fights...even Arum is laughing saying they are moving over and PBF Camp is still trying to make the fight.
SO Who´s ducking WHO?!
I will watch that fight because atleast Mayweather tried to make the fight with Pacquiao. Not his fault the dude is scared to be tested. I will boycott any Bob Arum or Top Rank fight from now on. Paulie is a stay busy fight until he fights Mosley (if he beats Berto). Mayweather vs Mosley will be the biggest fight of the year.
Me too...PAC & Arum can FVCK themselves if they don´t make the fight for March...
Manny could be on juice.. the same could be said to Floyd jr..
naaah he agreed to the tests, tell your boy to man up...he´s ducking the ducker as you say!
it does not make any sense for floyd who ya'll say is "cheating" to want to do random drug test but the person who is clean as a whistle, manny, wants a cut off from random drug testing. I mean, ya'll don't see the irony in that statement. if floyd is cheating, why would he be asking for random testing? :thinking: If manny is clean, why has it taken so long for him to accept random testing? :thinking:
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Pacquiao's Trainer -- Floyd's a 'Coward!'
Posted Jan 9th 2010 4:06AM by TMZ Staff
Forget about checking for drugs, the real reason the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather ain't happening -- Mayweather's a "coward" ... at least according to Manny's trainer.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/09/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-freddie-roach-trainer-video/
LAME!
Tell your boy to man up and sign the contract. If not PAC´rep will go south, at least with me
Well it looks like it isn't just Arum who is scared of the cut off, apparantly Manny is too!!..
LINK
That's a clear duck imo, the article also has words of wisdom from a doctor who suggests a 24 day cut off is a complete waste of time..
PAC´s action speak for themselves...too bad for him, he´s image of good boy sht is over for a lot of people.
IMO this scandal is worst than having a sex addiction like Tiger Woods, that´s about cheating, I know everybody say he doesn´t have to do it, Gayweather ask for blood tests to duck, blah, blah, but at the end if it was my rep on the line after PAC´s Team mess, I would agree to full tests just to prove I´m clean & then beat the sht out of PBF...
The problem is I´m clean, is he?? he doesn´t know, only ARIZA does.
Are you telling me that Mayweather camp and GBP is not full of contradictions and lies..
Please mofo.. They are the biggest bunch of liars in boxing..
Right NOW PAC´s Camp is worst, and the fight is not happening because of PAC.
LA Times Blog is the source.
Still Roach said 5 days was OK, then why not propose that on the mediation too?
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346211
For one, nobody calls the shots. Both sides have the right to demand any stipulation they choose. There are no rules in boxing that say the #1 P4P guy calls all the shots, if there was, this never would have went on so long. OK, get it now? The weaken excuse is bogus at this point. There's no way two weeks in not long enough to recover and I don't buy for one second that Manny isn't mentally tough enough to put something in the back of his mind. Bottom line, he's hiding something.
Agree, if he was mentally weak, he wouldn´t be where he is now, LMAO.... he said that he showed Cotto´s punches didn´t hurt him, when in fact they did, he said it was mental strength and preparation....this is all BS.
Floyd
Got caught with pain killers
Cheated at the scale. coming in over weight
Pac
Passed every drug test for the past 11years..
Why is Pac getting all the heat about Peds.. ??
LMAO...
SO LAME, PBF is agreeing to random blood & urine tests, your boy not, has something to hide!
GET IT ALREADY??!!
Its been proven that Floyd is the only one that uses illegal drugs to numb his hands before a fight. The only state that Legalizes the drugs Floyd uses for his hands is in Nevada Las Vegas, hence why the Floyd camp didn't want it held in Texas stadium. 49 states have banned Xylocaine in boxing which he injects into his hands to numb any pain before the fight.
You mean the spray to numb your hands?
link it´s banned and used??
Yesterday that old scumbag claimed "there was no 14 day offer!!".. now he's been forced to admit there was..
LINK
How many more lies are the Roiduiao camp gonna get away with? :rolleyes:
I thought he´s job was to make fights happen...
dont even waste your time..they will just come and post homo jokes,photoshopped pictures,red k you..and call you and floyd names..they will post 0 facts but will claim that you got owned
Agree, still I see more PAC fan's now realizing the truth!