Let me tell you, this guy is good but he has nothing on Floyd Mayweather Jr, nothing. Floyd is incredibly good, even when compared with Leonard. Speed, accuracy and tatics, Floyd is incredibly good all around. When he's gone people will start to notice that when 10 years go by and no one like him comes along.
What do you consider to be Floyds flaw???
He has NONE.
I kno you know ur stuff so your response should be interesting.
But Ive seen them all....SRR( the little footage that exists of him past it but still)....SRL....Duran...Ali...Sweet Pea...
Bro a Floyd Mayweather jr. will NEVER come around again.
hahahahahah Floyd is not the greatest thing ever man you are nuts. Floyds flaws okay:
Doesn't hit hard enough. Has brittle hands and back problems. Coasts to decision the majority of the time. pitty pat floyd. He is a point fighter. And Floyd has never been hurt because he hasn't been hit by a big enough puncher and will NEVER trade because he is scared to get hit.
Floyd has great defense. Yes. But you act like he is some crazy offensive force also and he isnt
Man Floyd had chances to fight Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, Antionio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Tszyu, when they were top dogs but he didn't.
He made Hatton move up solid win tho, Marquez go BLOATED NOT A good win to me. Oscar win was good but it was boring.
a Past prime Hoya is no Hagler. LOL Floyd has boxing abilities and probably is the most natural boxer of his era but that doesn't mean shit when you dont fight the other Great fighters of your weight.
Leonard Was the most natural boxer of his era and we know how great he is because he fought the other greats Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred, etc.d
I bet if Leonard fought the welterweights Floyd fought in his prime *Judah, Baldimor, Hatton, Marquez(NOT A WW), and Mitchell he would DESTROY them all. Floyd dominated them by the scorecards but didn't give a Beating to them. Leonard would give them a beating, dominate and destroy them at the same time. Just my 2 cents.
Ray didnt destroy Benitez, Ayub Kalule or Larry Bonds. Kalule hit him a lot in that fight before the stoppage in the 9th round. I wouldnt say he destroyed him. Kalule actually won 3 of the 1st 8 rounds. It was 5 to 3 Leonard. He stopped Bonds in the 10th but it still took him 10 rounds. He went 10 rounds with Adolfo Viruet in 1979, 10 rounds with Randy Shields and Marcus Gerlado but i give him a pass because Marcus was a middleweight.
So why woudln't Baldimor be able to last 12 rounds. Vernon Forrest hit him with the kitchen sink and still couldn't knock him out. Ray beats him probably 12 rounds to 0 but that's the same as Floyd. When did Ray ever fight a southpaw with speed? Zan Judah i think gives him problems early and he eventually starts to attack Judah on the inside and most likely stops him 9th or 10th round. But it wouldn't be a 3 round destruction. Ray had problems with Ayub Kalule southpaw style and he's slower than Baldomir.
Bro Leonard is greater.
But Floyd is literally a perfect fighter. Hate him all you want. He is the most skilled, talented and gifted fighter to ever box.
PERIOD.[/QUOTE
FLOYD PERFECT???? WHAT???
YOU'RE MAKING ME HAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHAHAA...
Let him wait the result of mosley and berto, if he will, I don't think so... wht he can't afford to face the two fighter like the way he can't afford to face pacman.
BS comments from some posters..you cant compare them off of their resumes
how can you..have we had a "Hearns/Duran/Hagler" of our generation?.I think not..have we had a SRL of our generation?..yes. PBF. and lets be 100% real..even if Floyd fought Pacquiao/Margarito/Cotto..ect..it will never compare to SRL's resume because that was a different time..with different fighters..
you have to judge them on their skill alone..& they are very similar..if they werent they wouldnt get compared to by experts/analyst so much..but if they fought..it would be a toss-up and would go to the scorecards..
late 70s/80s had SRL
90s had PW
00's and on..has PBF
That's the thing though. Floyd should fight the top WW but he hasn't fought a single one of them.
BS comments from some posters..you cant compare them off of their resumes
how can you..have we had a "Hearns/Duran/Hagler" of our generation?.I think not..have we had a SRL of our generation?..yes. PBF. and lets be 100% real..even if Floyd fought Pacquiao/Margarito/Cotto..ect..it will never compare to SRL's resume because that was a different time..with different fighters..
you have to judge them on their skill alone..& they are very similar..if they werent they wouldnt get compared to by experts/analyst so much..but if they fought..it would be a toss-up and would go to the scorecards..
late 70s/80s had SRL
90s had PW
00's and on..has PBF
That's what i meant, i mean seeing both inside the ring i jumped to that conclusion... Of course Leonard had Duran, Hagler and Hearns around.. Foyd had Oscar, Hatton, Marquez and earlier Corrales but i recon those guys aren't anything like Hagler, Hearns and Duran, specially Hagler who was a great fighter on his own. Still in boxing ability i think Floyd is pretty accurate when he says he's the greatest. Hoya is pretty close to Hagler though.
Man Floyd had chances to fight Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto, Antionio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Tszyu, when they were top dogs but he didn't.
He made Hatton move up solid win tho, Marquez go BLOATED NOT A good win to me. Oscar win was good but it was boring.
a Past prime Hoya is no Hagler. LOL Floyd has boxing abilities and probably is the most natural boxer of his era but that doesn't mean shit when you dont fight the other Great fighters of your weight.
Leonard Was the most natural boxer of his era and we know how great he is because he fought the other greats Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred, etc.d
I bet if Leonard fought the welterweights Floyd fought in his prime *Judah, Baldimor, Hatton, Marquez(NOT A WW), and Mitchell he would DESTROY them all. Floyd dominated them by the scorecards but didn't give a Beating to them. Leonard would give them a beating, dominate and destroy them at the same time. Just my 2 cents.
SRL in his prime was awesome!
Leonard was the naturally bigger fighter so it depends at what weight. I think SRL has the better chin and the harder punch so cannot see how Floyd wins this.
The quality of opposition Leonard fought was far superior. Floyd is one of the most skilled fighters ever but that's exactly when it gets frustrating because we can't measure his greatness based on his resume.
The way fghts have been happening for Floyd recently it's disappointing. Some people blame Floyd alone for allot of fights not happening but they're not in his shoes. Shit was allot easier when there were no PPV and everyone had a loss at least. Now everyone who doesn't have an 0 isn't worthy. The fans are to blame, the promoters too. Guys like Ortiz being managed carefully and still manage to lose while some very good fighters having to fight every month in the hopes they make a name and if they lose it's over.
Pacquiao and at least Shane Mosley need to happen. I know Floyd wants them but then again... Why? I mean, if you had a job and whenever you done something great people would still not give you credit wouldn't you have switched jobs? What if this job paid ALLOT? Yep that's Floyd for you.
Floyd is partly to blame for this mentality, look at the way his nuthuggers put a premium in being undefeated when comparing Floyd's resume to ATG's. not all floyd fans, but a lot of Flomos do that here.
I think seeing these 2 fight p4p would be amazing. Floyd's offence is severely underrated by most people he is the most accurate puncher in the game and can throw pretty much any punch at any time.
As for Castillo I it is unfair to take that as 100% because Floyd was injured, so it's not really comparable to Leonard-Duran I. Leonard made a mental error in his gameplan that we have yet to see Floyd make.
At WW Leonard beats Floyd most likely because he was a big dude, however, Floyd looks to have filled out a bit more so I would reserve true judgement of WW Floyd til his career is done.
The way fghts have been happening for Floyd recently it's disappointing. Some people blame Floyd alone for allot of fights not happening but they're not in his shoes. Shit was allot easier when there were no PPV and everyone had a loss at least. Now everyone who doesn't have an 0 isn't worthy. The fans are to blame, the promoters too. Guys like Ortiz being managed carefully and still manage to lose while some very good fighters having to fight every month in the hopes they make a name and if they lose it's over.
Pacquiao and at least Shane Mosley need to happen. I know Floyd wants them but then again... Why? I mean, if you had a job and whenever you done something great people would still not give you credit wouldn't you have switched jobs? What if this job paid ALLOT? Yep that's Floyd for you.
Out of curiosity, did people used to call Leonard a runner? I wouldn't but you know people... Fact is he "ran" allot more than Floyd ever did. Currently watching the second Duran fight. If Floyd ever did that he'd be booed to hell. Curiously people don't seem to be booing Leonard at all!
its simply because SRL fights the best! Floyd cherry picks his opponents which is smaller and lighter than him and he runs.
Floyd of today is not a fighter, a fighter dont fight on the defensive position.
I think seeing these 2 fight p4p would be amazing. Floyd's offence is severely underrated by most people he is the most accurate puncher in the game and can throw pretty much any punch at any time.
As for Castillo I it is unfair to take that as 100% because Floyd was injured, so it's not really comparable to Leonard-Duran I. Leonard made a mental error in his gameplan that we have yet to see Floyd make.
At WW Leonard beats Floyd most likely because he was a big dude, however, Floyd looks to have filled out a bit more so I would reserve true judgement of WW Floyd til his career is done.
Sugar Ray beat great fighters like Duran,Hearns & Hagler!!But floyd beat Baldomir,Judah & Corrales!!Those 3 floyd beat,none would beat Duran,just saying!!:dunno::dunno::dunno:
I'm not so sure. It's allot harder to say that than it seems. Would anyone guess Hearns blast Duran, who beat prime Leonard once, like he did? Corrales was a bit like hearns. Anyway I'm just saying too
Floyd didnt fight Hagler, Hearns and Duran or anybody close to there standand, hand speed wise Leonard would show up Floyd, Floyd really should have lost to castillo the first time and Castillo aint up there with Duran, Hagler and Hearns.
Sorry but for me Leonard is much greater, for floyd to get near his legacy he would have to fight and beat Pacquiao, Pavlik and Williams
Don't get me wrong, Floyd's skills are great, but knowing what he could do versus what he has done after moving to welter, well, it ain't helping his resume at all.
IMO, Floyd gets flack not because of what he does in the ring, its the frustration of fans hearing him talk a big game and not deliver.
His skills are comparable to ATG's but his resume just makes comparing him to ATG's a farce, a few good names and he would be treated better.
It's allot more complicated than that today. There's pride, money, drugs (new), fear and all the usual troubles with huge promotions in making a big fight. think of it has a major company merge.
Leonard was still on free TV, he didn't have to worry so much.
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