Well it looks like it isn't just Arum who is scared of the cut off, apparantly Manny is too!!..
However, Koncz said he was informed of the offer by promoter Bob Arum and that he brought it directly to Pacquiao, who would not even consider it. Koncz said Pacquiao was very firm in his decision.
“Bob called and told us about the 14 days and I brought that to Manny and he said, ‘I told you, we’re not agreeing to that,’ and that was pretty much it,” Koncz said.
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That's a clear duck imo, the article also has words of wisdom from a doctor who suggests a 24 day cut off is a complete waste of time..
Dr. Don H. Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles-based non-profit Anti-Doping Research, Inc., said a 24-day cutoff for blood testing is not sufficient to prevent abuse. One of the concerns with such a long blood-testing cutoff prior to the date of competition would be the potential use of Erythropoietin, or EPO.
But Catlin said that wouldn’t be the only concern if there were a 24-day cutoff imposed.
“If you have a 24-day window that’s free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want and you’re not going to get caught, end of story,” Catlin said. “ does matter, yes, but they’re not going to catch everything by urine testing alone. What you would do is to take Mircera , which is available and which is not easy to detect in urine and away you go. You need a blood test.”
i'm still laughing at the fact that floyd is proven to have used pain killers for his hands that are illegal in most states, while pacquiao has never failed a test and yet floyd fans claim Pacquiao is the cheater. LOL god bless them...
Whats funnier is that the 'cheater' is requesting a random Olympic style blood test for both fighters. Yet. the never have tested positive, 'mr. clean' fighter wont take the test.
What the **** this world coming to?
so many articles floating around i dont what to believe. i like pac but if 14 days was proposed thats more than fair. he's making himself look suspicious he should just take these tests already so his career doesnt end up getting questioned after he retires
stop replying to them..i have been explaining to them about that. they will give u unreasonable answers. just dont reply to them.it will give u a headache
i'm still laughing at the fact that floyd is proven to have used pain killers for his hands that are illegal in most states, while pacquiao has never failed a test and yet floyd fans claim Pacquiao is the cheater. LOL god bless them...
While i think a 14 day cutoff is fair, still why wont floyd agree to 24 days? Its no big difference. And its a stupid demand in the first place for floyd to be asking for these tests, so he needs to back down a little if pacquiao will agree to it!
stop replying to them..i have been explaining to them about that. they will give u unreasonable answers. just dont reply to them.it will give u a headache
While i think a 14 day cutoff is fair, still why wont floyd agree to 24 days? Its no big difference. And its a stupid demand in the first place for floyd to be asking for these tests, so he needs to back down a little if pacquiao will agree to it!
$10 million was nothing considering this is a WW fight and PBF wont come in over 147. THe fact that he did come over the limit before shows PBF is a proven naughty gangsta and Pacs requests are common sense more than anything.
Is PBF claiming he is a 154 fighter now? Well he wont get credit for beating DLH now then!
lol @ naughty
For one, nobody calls the shots. Both sides have the right to demand any stipulation they choose. There are no rules in boxing that say the #1 P4P guy calls all the shots, if there was, this never would have went on so long. OK, get it now? The weaken excuse is bogus at this point. There's no way two weeks in not long enough to recover and I don't buy for one second that Manny isn't mentally tough enough to put something in the back of his mind. Bottom line, he's hiding something.
Agree, if he was mentally weak, he wouldn´t be where he is now, LMAO.... he said that he showed Cotto´s punches didn´t hurt him, when in fact they did, he said it was mental strength and preparation....this is all BS.
People like you will blindly accept any excuse that Pacquiao offers without questioning it no matter how ridiculous it sounds.
And that is exactly what has kept this debate going with the Pactards that refuse to believe their Idol is a fraud. Its kind of funny though. lol Telling these guys off like they are 14 year olds, that's their mentality and even their reasoning and judgment is on a 14 year olds level as well.
so much for reasonable discussions. someone said here that i easily accept the excuse of pac that he will be weakened if blood is taken from him few days before the fight but there is a video that supports his claim. but this guy easily believed the accusation of a crackhead without any proof. and he even said he is a person with common sense. stop the non sense. let's move on to greater things. unbelievable posters here.
Pac calls the shots and not PBF. Pac mentally thinks that the closer to the fight they take blood that it will weaken him. Thats his superstition and what he thinks. Just like some people dont have sex in a 8 week training camp because they fear it will weaken them.
Pac has already given PBF an equal purse which PBF dont deserve. Pac is the man, and PBF needs to understand the pecking order. When PBF was the man he could get away with dictating but things are different now.
IF PBF wants the fight, he should have signed ages ago and stop fighting a losing battle
For one, nobody calls the shots. Both sides have the right to demand any stipulation they choose. There are no rules in boxing that say the #1 P4P guy calls all the shots, if there was, this never would have went on so long. OK, get it now? The weaken excuse is bogus at this point. There's no way two weeks in not long enough to recover and I don't buy for one second that Manny isn't mentally tough enough to put something in the back of his mind. Bottom line, he's hiding something.
The $10 mill for every pound over has never been asked for, Floyd agreed.
Olympic style testing has never been asked for w/ 14 day cut off, Pac denied.
Now tell me what's the problem here?
the problem here is your gay boy has a history of cheating by coming in 2lbs heavier against a lightweight in marquez and trying to gain psychological
advantage with pac. blood test just after the fight is more than enough
period.
and why does he have to agree to a 14 day cut off?? why don't floyd agree to a 24 day cut off?? it's his stupid demand anyway..
Didn't you read the article? Because 24 days isn't fool proof you Pactard. I swear these guys are 14 year olds.
everytime i read a comment saying floyd isn't calling the shots, i cringe at a pac fan because it's a cop-out on their part for their fighter---it's making manny look even worse---history will not be good to manny and bob arum because of this shit---just take the test and make the fight happen---manny said at least 3 days cut-off in the beginning--then 5 days--now--then back to 30, then 24? he's being a real pussy---i'm losing more respect for him as each day passes--and bob arum is a ****ing coward---
Comaring the two do work. Some people dont have sex for 8 weeks did you rread properly? What is that all about then? Its in the mind. Are you going to force boxers to have sex if they dont want to. Raping them 14 days before the fight.
$10 million was nothing considering this is a WW fight and PBF wont come in over 147. THe fact that he did come over the limit before shows PBF is a proven naughty gangsta and Pacs requests are common sense more than anything.
Is PBF claiming he is a 154 fighter now? Well he wont get credit for beating DLH now then!
i think all boxers should agree to random blood/urine testing up until the day off the fight from this day forward. the fighters who say 'no problem' are the real deal, those who complain and fight the idea have something to hide.
just because you're a star in the sport doesnt mean you have the right to dictate what you can and cannot do pre-fight. i dont agree with the way the Mayweathers went about this, but i never had a problem with the idea of random testing. Pac on the other hand seems to reject these ideas out of spite, and for that i say "listen to your fans Manny" take the tests. do what you have to to get in the ring. same goes for Floyd. let your fight game talk. we could go on and on about who is in the wrong, but at the end of the day i dont think anyone can fight the idea of random testing for our boxing heros. can you? please explain if you don't agree.
Well it looks like it isn't just Arum who is scared of the cut off, apparantly Manny is too!!..
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That's a clear duck imo, the article also has words of wisdom from a doctor who suggests a 24 day cut off is a complete waste of time..
PAC´s action speak for themselves...too bad for him, he´s image of good boy sht is over for a lot of people.
IMO this scandal is worst than having a sex addiction like Tiger Woods, that´s about cheating, I know everybody say he doesn´t have to do it, Gayweather ask for blood tests to duck, blah, blah, but at the end if it was my rep on the line after PAC´s Team mess, I would agree to full tests just to prove I´m clean & then beat the sht out of PBF...
The problem is I´m clean, is he?? he doesn´t know, only ARIZA does.
just disgraceful by Pac, and hpyocritical for his team. They said a 48 hour cutoff would be acceptable, and a 5 day cutoff. Now 14 days isnt enough?
And members of team pac have been sending e-mails to team mayweather asking about repurcussions of testing positive and asking to keep the results quiet if he did test positive.
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