Something no one has mentioned {As far as I've read} is how did Clottey vs Pacman end up at Dallas stadium.
It seems that Arum has some type of financial thing going on with Jerry Jones and wanted Pac to face Mayweather in Dallas Stadium. And since Mayweather insisted on it happening in Vegas {Along with the testing debacle} Arum turned totally against the fight.
I think there is a lot more reasons WHY the fight between Floyd & Pac didn't happen and it has something to do with deals Arum was looking to make on the side.
Uncle Bob only cares about how much money he's going to make off each boxer.
It makes no sense for him to make the fight with Floyd right now and only promote the fight for two months. He can promote the fight for a whole year and still make money off Manny by having him fight other Top Rank boxers.
Arum played everyone for a fool and cost us the fight.
I agree the Pacquiao fight was really on Dallas,
unfortunately GB Promotions did'nt show up in
the scheduled meeting w/ Jerry Jones... It seems
GB Promotions is not really interested in the
Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.. tough luck.GBP would definitely be interested in this fight because they're going to make millions off this fight. GBP gets a percentage of every Manny fight and they're going to make millions by representing Floyd in this negotiation.
If I was GBP - I'd do whatever it takes to make this fight happen and make millions.
Thats bullshit. People always take that quote out of context. She just means that he will throw his punches harder because he doesnt have the fear of pain but it doesnt make you punch harder. If that was the case then everyone would use it. No one likes using that shit unless they have to. It doesnt enhance anything
Finally a knowledgeable poster on the topic
The drugs that FLoyd is using for his brittle hands are only legal in NEVADA. which means he cant use it in texas.
What drugs are you referring to ???????????????
it's illegal in most states and some countries.
Can you tell me what states do not allow the use of lidocaine for pain management and to be more precise are you speaking only in reference to boxing ???????????
Just Curious.
Arum and GBP have everything programmed...look Cotto lost to Clottey, now Clottey gets to fight PAC and have a huge Pay, PBF will fight another GBP fighter (marquez gets more PPV rating and gets Hatton), after that maybe Mosley (Big $PPV), and after that they´ll meet at the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011...Instead of milking 1 fight and loosing one of them PPV and rep power a bit, they will get 1 fight in PAC or probably 2, same to PBF before the final and biggest money fight...along with more promotion time.
More time for Roach to prepare PAC to PBF style, as he previously said, and as Bhop said that it wouldn´t happen early 2010, PAC camp didn´t want the fight now, afraid to loose or whatever reason Arum has...we were played...LOL
I dunno. I dont think the lawsuit was part of the plan or tarnishing Pac's name with PED rumors
I think its only Bob Arum... but i agree with you.. we were played
Something no one has mentioned {As far as I've read} is how did Clottey vs Pacman end up at Dallas stadium.
It seems that Arum has some type of financial thing going on with Jerry Jones and wanted Pac to face Mayweather in Dallas Stadium. And since Mayweather insisted on it happening in Vegas {Along with the testing debacle} Arum turned totally against the fight.
I think there is a lot more reasons WHY the fight between Floyd & Pac didn't happen and it has something to do with deals Arum was looking to make on the side.
Probably, but who fukkin knows. There are a lot of conspiracy theories going around, but I could see some truth behind them. When the Olympic style test came up, Arum made no effort to meet Team Floyd halfway. During the Pac-Oscar fight negotiations, Arum practically begged Pac to sign the deal even though the purse was a lot less than Manny wanted.
So Arum is willing to budge on certain issues, but I think he was looking for a way out of this fight. I don't know who to believe anymore. I will always love boxing, but it seems to be more showbiz and less of a sport nowadays.
That illegal painkiller can also be use to enhance your punching power.
" by numbing something up you can't feel it..and when you can't feel it, you're gonna hit harder with it." Margaret Goodman
Thats bullshit. People always take that quote out of context. She just means that he will throw his punches harder because he doesnt have the fear of pain but it doesnt make you punch harder. If that was the case then everyone would use it. No one likes using that shit unless they have to. It doesnt enhance anything
you make it sound like if Floyd doesnt have the shots then his hands will break into dust or something. Thats how everyone is acting now. People make it sound like without it then he is nothing. Gatti has one of the hardest heads & toughest beards going. Floyd landing a ton of hard shots. It wont kill him, espically for 1 fight
That illegal painkiller can also be use to enhance your punching power.
" by numbing something up you can't feel it..and when you can't feel it, you're gonna hit harder with it." Margaret Goodman
Arum didnt want Pac-mayweather to happen yet.
perhaps because he wants to hype the fight even more or he wants to get as much $ from pac because he probably thinks Mayweather will beat Manny
who knows
Arum and GBP have everything programmed...look Clotey lost to Cotto, now Clottey gets to fight PAC and have a huge Pay, PBF will fight another GBP fighter (marquez gets more PPV rating and gets Hatton), after that maybe Mosley (Big $PPV), and after that they´ll meet at the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011...Instead of milking 1 fight and loosing one of them PPV and rep power a bit, they will get 1 fight in PAC or probably 2, same to PBF before the final and biggest money fight...along with more promotion time.
More time for Roach to prepare PAC to PBF style, as he previously said, and as Bhop said that it wouldn´t happen early 2010, PAC camp didn´t want the fight now, afraid to loose or whatever reason Arum has...we were played...LOL
Something no one has mentioned {As far as I've read} is how did Clottey vs Pacman end up at Dallas stadium.
It seems that Arum has some type of financial thing going on with Jerry Jones and wanted Pac to face Mayweather in Dallas Stadium. And since Mayweather insisted on it happening in Vegas {Along with the testing debacle} Arum turned totally against the fight.
I think there is a lot more reasons WHY the fight between Floyd & Pac didn't happen and it has something to do with deals Arum was looking to make on the side.
The drugs that FLoyd is using for his brittle hands are only legal in NEVADA. which means he cant use it in texas.
Arum killed the fight on purpose, imagine the feeling in his stomach when Pac loses to Mayweather and GBP, he'd rather Clottey beat him and set up a rematch, and continue to play his childish game.
Floyd would never fight in Dallas because the illegal painkiller that he uses is BANNED in Texas.
Floyd uses\used lidocaine {Local Anesthetic} and it is legal nationwide\worldwide . :sad:
Arum didnt want Pac-mayweather to happen yet.
perhaps because he wants to hype the fight even more or he wants to get as much $ from pac because he probably thinks Mayweather will beat Manny
who knows
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Even posted it in a few of the Clottye-Pac threads. It was my first thought when I heard Pac-Clottey was going to be held at Texas Stadium. How much truth there is to this theory we really dont know.
Wasn't MGM being held for Floyd on March 13? If this is the case, Arum would need alternative venue for Pac, Im guessing Texas was open and there were already some negotiations between the parties, Jerry Jones being excited on showing off his new arena and all, that made that negotiation go pretty smoothly
Here's the thing J.Jones wants that stadium to turn a profit and boxing is a great choice to fill up open slots. But, you need good fights that will fill the seats and I doubt Pac vs Clottey can do it - But it is a good start.
Arum has big stadium ideas .... he just needs the right matchups to make it a profitable reality. Right now I don't see many fights filling even 25% of that stadiums capacity ... with PPV and online streams cutting into the paying seat potential.
Who needs illegal painkillers as PED's when your opponent is a washed up GATTI( no dispesrect to Gatti, he's a true warrior, may he rest in peace)
you make it sound like if Floyd doesnt have the shots then his hands will break into dust or something. Thats how everyone is acting now. People make it sound like without it then he is nothing. Gatti has one of the hardest heads & toughest beards going. Floyd landing a ton of hard shots. It wont kill him, espically for 1 fight
but he fought Gatti in AC?
Who needs illegal painkillers as PED when your opponent is a washed up GATTI( no dispesrect to Gatti, he's a true warrior, may he rest in peace)
Its too late for that. I got my popcorn ready now :popcorn:
Nah, Im just ****in wit you. I just know that both of you are strong personalities who love to get there point across and have the last word
The last part is very true about me. lol
lol man no fight here. I just can't stand idiotic statements. I just want people to think things out a little
Its too late for that. I got my popcorn ready now :popcorn:
Nah, Im just ****in wit you. I just know that both of you are strong personalities who love to get there point across and have the last word