What if....Manny agreed to do the random testing....BUT

Dude, put your Pacquiao homerism away for just one minute. So if someone defends a fighter....do you jump on them and place them in the category "Pactard", "Flomo", "Coto Stans" etc..... Real boxing fans don't accuse others of being loyal to one fighter.....real boxing fans look at the big picture and the integrity of the sport....not calling another fan names. I have defended Floyd in the past, but for some reason, it has become harder to defend him by his actions. Manny on the other hand, uses actions to speak for himself, not Bob, not Roach who speak for themselves, who think they speak for Manny. And again....Manny's actions of not agreeing to the supposed 14 day window presented from Floyd are suspicious, but at the same time...he has never failed a banned substance test. And if I did have a favorite fighter....his name is Andre Ward.

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Dude, put your Pacquiao homerism away for just one minute. Why would they even ask for such a demad right after they refuses for take the test randomly? At first Floyd wanted to fight in May, but they said if he doesn't fight Manny in March, they would moved on, Floyd agreed. When Floyd asked for his testing demand that's when Team Pacquiao started panicking with all their silly excuses and hints about moving on. Again think about the situation as a Boxing fan, yes Floyd has no right to ask for that type of resquest since Manny hasn't tested positive before, but neither has Floyd. 600, 000 - 3,000, 000 dollars penalty would of been enough. They asked for the 10 Million because they know how sensitive Floyd is about his money. They know that he wouldn't come above the fight weight limit, but they asked for that much kind of money simply to try to make Floyd backed off from his request, which he didn't. Team Pacquiao didn't want this fight, with all their hints and excuses, only Pacquiao fans would say he wanted the fight from the beginning. Bold #1 - So me pointing out Floyd's disregard of the contracted weight against Marquez validates you to tell me to put my "so called Pacquiao Homerism away for just one minute".........OK...that's just fact. Bold # 2 - I am thinking about this stupid situation as a BOXING FAN....as I've stated...Manny should've taken the tests from JUMP.....if he has superstitions regarding blood being drawn, who are we to say otherwise, AS BOXING FANS. I am giving Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt regarding his SUPERSTITION about drawing blood.....other elite athletes have them too...but not to a blood drawing degree.... Jordan wore North Carolina shorts under his Bulls shorts......Tiger always wears red on Sundays.....Gretzky tucked one side of his hockey jersey in....lists go on and on.....BUT...Manny should just agree to take the random tests..... My whole take is...negotiations went too far, both have huge egos and neither wants to bow to the demand of blood testing..... But why diddn't Golden Boy / Team Mayweather even give Jerry Jones the courtesy of going out to Texas and discussing the fight happening there? I understand Golden Boy has a business relationship with MGM, but business is business, and the thought of having 100,000 potential BOXING FANS, not celebrities, present at the fight of the decade, coupled with record setting PPV numbers should've at least tempted Schafer to fly out and decline Jerry Jones in person no?

$10 mil for every pound over 147lb limit......due to Floyd coming in over the contracted weight of 144lbs against Marquez.....as if Floyd needed it. If you saw something else....you are trippin. Dude, put your Pacquiao homerism away for just one minute. Why would they even ask for such a demad right after they refuses for take the test randomly? At first Floyd wanted to fight in May, but they said if he doesn't fight Manny in March, they would moved on, Floyd agreed. When Floyd asked for his testing demand that's when Team Pacquiao started panicking with all their silly excuses and hints about moving on. Again think about the situation as a Boxing fan, yes Floyd has no right to ask for that type of resquest since Manny hasn't tested positive before, but neither has Floyd. 600, 000 - 3,000, 000 dollars penalty would of been enough. They asked for the 10 Million because they know how sensitive Floyd is about his money. They know that he wouldn't come above the fight weight limit, but they asked for that much kind of money simply to try to make Floyd backed off from his request, which he didn't. Team Pacquiao didn't want this fight, with all their hints and excuses, only Pacquiao fans would say he wanted the fight from the beginning.

"Floyd Mayweather was offered a $10 million penalty reward if Manny Pacqiuao tested positive for any illegal substances. Mayweather turned the offer down" I guess Im not trippin'. "penalty reward"??????? Link please?

im more likely to think maybe Pacquiao's Promoters wants another big fight first so at least he can create more hype before fighting Mayweather

Agree. The Mayweather fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roach said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.” Roach said that Pacquiao’s schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roach said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Mayweather in September. And then retire.” The way Roach sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Pacquiao’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Mayweather will be “the hardest fight of his life”. “Mayweather’s a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It won’t be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Mayweather is talented and he’s good at defence. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way. “We’ll have a ten-week training camp. We have to work on a lot of new moves, we have to improve in certain areas to win that fight.” And would he expect his man to win? “Oh yes. Without a doubt.” Just wondering how the bolded text proves that Manny is scared of Floyd? Those are quotes from Roach...whom I have the utmost respect for as a TRAINER....but he and Arum do mess things up for Manny PR wise.

Didn't Team Pac ask for a 10 mill penalty to anyone that tested positive, and GBP declined it. I swear I saw it somewhere before. $10 mil for every pound over 147lb limit......due to Floyd coming in over the contracted weight of 144lbs against Marquez.....as if Floyd needed it. If you saw something else....you are trippin.

manny is scared of floyd, thats why he doesnt make the random test. its a perfect way to get out of this fight, he knows floyd is too big, too skilled for him. Real boxing fans already know that neither is scared of the other..... I give Pac the benfit of the doubt with the "Morales I story"....as there are interviews verifying that "excuse"...... If anything...your above stmt should be reversed...look at it this way..."If Floyd was too big, too skilled for him...why would Floyd ask for this nonsense from an INFERIOR 1 Dimensional fighter?"

manny is scared of floyd, thats why he doesnt make the random test. its a perfect way to get out of this fight, he knows floyd is too big, too skilled for him. Agree. The Mayweather fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roach said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.” Roach said that Pacquiao’s schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roach said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Mayweather in September. And then retire.” The way Roach sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Pacquiao’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Mayweather will be “the hardest fight of his life”. “Mayweather’s a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It won’t be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Mayweather is talented and he’s good at defence. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way. “We’ll have a ten-week training camp. We have to work on a lot of new moves, we have to improve in certain areas to win that fight.” And would he expect his man to win? “Oh yes. Without a doubt.”

manny is scared of floyd, thats why he doesnt make the random test. its a perfect way to get out of this fight, he knows floyd is too big, too skilled for him.

Team Mayweather would just have a clause in the contract that would make Manny forfeit all purse winnings and be banned by the commission if he were to test positive and found to be guilty. Just my guess. That's a good option, but I guess we'll have to wait because is not getting made...anyway if they were in fact previously cheating will never sign it...similar to what happened...LOL

Team Mayweather would just have a clause in the contract that would make Manny forfeit all purse winnings and be banned by the commission if he were to test positive and found to be guilty. Just my guess. That is a perfectly practical clause....and vice versa for Floyd.....if ANY of the fighters were to test positive for ANY banned substance....steroids for a lung condition, Xylocaine for numbing hands, excessive amount of tylenol for a cold, h1n1 vaccine etc......if someone were to test positive...forfeit their purse and 1 yr suspension from boxing.

Boxing fan or just Pacquiao fan? Gee I wonder.... Its just funny to me the Pacquiao "fans" that come out the woodwork and try to educate or argue their points, and end up just pulling a Bob Arum - aka thee Biggest Pactard of them all.....with coming in a close 2nd...the WBC Organization.....they did create that joke of a belt..."Diamond Championship Belt".

He won't. He doesn't want to do any random testing. Bob Arum was ready to make a Manny VS Marquez bout III, but both Manny and Arum rejected Marquez for both, 50-50 split, and Olympic random testing. Manny is the best boxer at his weight class, but random testin is his biggest fair. Random testing > Manny Pacquiao According to Bob and Pacquiao...not "Team Pacquiao"....he was saying that... "If the NSAC deems it necessary to implement random blood testing, then he will abide by the sanctioning commission's rules and regulations" I guess all the NSAC has to do is change their rules and regulations and it'll be end of the whole debacle....but as of this point in time...all the NSAC requires is urine samples....

Boxing fan or just Pacquiao fan?

Team Mayweather would just have a clause in the contract that would make Manny forfeit all purse winnings and be banned by the commission if he were to test positive and found to be guilty. Just my guess.

The results of the test were revealed AFTER the fight? How many think Floyd would agree to such a request? If I'm not mistaken...Evander / Tyson had this issue come up. So Evander put the "cloud of suspicion" over the head of Tyson....leaving Tyson to wonder if he was in fact facing a "clean fighter" or a "enhanced fighter". It would've been nice to see another fighter play mind games with Floyd....but hey, we live in the real world. Either way....Floyd would have an excuse if he lost....1) Manny tested positive (if in fact he did) or 2) The mind game worked on Floyd and he wasn't focused enough in camp due to the test results being revealed after the fight (and Pac tested clean). I know that everyone and their mama has posted thoughts, conspiracy theories and all that other BS.....so I just wanted to put mine out there.... Again...my position has always been and will still stand as ..."Manny should take the tests....leave no doubt and just fight" Discuss if necessary..... I never understood the concept of wanting to be sure that your opponent isn't cheating and making sure the fight is on an even playing field, then just letting him take full advantage of the uneven playing field. Don't think it would be smart IMHO.

He won't. He doesn't want to do any random testing. Bob Arum was ready to make a Manny VS Marquez bout III, but both Manny and Arum rejected Marquez for both, 50-50 split, and Olympic random testing. Manny is the best boxer at his weight class, but random testin is his biggest fair. Random testing > Manny Pacquiao