Left2theliver

Ya know, i never got why people rip on the guy for the way he fights. He's a smart fighter, and there's more than one way to fight so who cares. I thought people loved the sport, so why is it wrong for a fighter to be extremely defenssive and elussive?

If I had a quarter for every time that someone said a fight would be the next Hagler/Hearns, I think I'd be pretty well off. That being said, that might be Khan's only chance, try to throw a lot, throw big, and hope to hurt him or something.

Well, this is a weird ass fight. Props to Khan for moving up to Canelo's 155lb, but I don't see this going well for Khan... Like, at all... Are they expecting us to pay $60 for this ****? I'd tune in all day if this was on regular HBO or Showtime.

I think that it's more important to look at it from the perspective of where they were WHEN they fought, as opposed to looking at what happened after. I definitely doesn't help if they go on a losing streak afterwards, but I think that there's more to it than just that.

I don't think anyone is discrediting his abilities in the ring for the **** he said.

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that you won't face backlash for the things you say. All it means is that the government cannot censor or punish you for the things that you do say. That also means that when a company like Nike sponsors you, and then you go and say some offensive **** like that, they have every right to drop you, just like now the NBA dropped Donald Sterling. You can say whatever you want, but you also have to be prepared for what follows. All the **** Manny's getting is on him. You can't blame a whole group of people for being upset when someone goes out and publicly compares them to animals.

I always thought that move was horse****. They FORCED him to sell something that he bought with his own money that he owned. I know what you mean... but that was a bad example imo.... oh yea.... fuck sterling btw. Right, and I can see why that doesn't sit well with people, but his team was one of many that is under the NBA. They had every right to get rid of him, just like he had every right to say what he said.

If he feels good after the Smith fight, and decides that he wants to stay at 154, I have no issues with that, so long as he stops talking about fighting GGG at 160. Either make that **** happen, or just shut up about it and move onto other ****.

Good post, it would be a heck of a fight. Lemeiux might just be the second hardest puncher at 160, behind GGG. I'm all for it. It ain't GGG vs. Canelo, but I'm all got high caliber fighters facing each other.

Probably favor Canelo. But hey, I'm all for Canelo fighting a high-level, real, middleweight at 160lb. Cotto was a very good win, but let's face it, dude was a undersized MW. Someone as big and powerful as Lemieux? I'd watch the hell out of that.

Oooooooh my god!!!! Black man + red = gangster!!!! AAHHHHHHH!!!! Quick, someone call Donald Trump.

I love MMA but got into thru Boxing. That's my base. In MMA, most fans come from a specific base. Grappling ones like Wrestling or Jiu-Jitsu and Kickboxing. For me, it's Boxing. Yeah I got drawn into it because I had always been into Martial Arts, and MMA seemed like a progression. The grappling is what always intrigued me; I guess it's also why I love boxing. They're both two complex systems that require you to think 2 steps ahead at all times.

I'm in the minority here, but while I love both, I'm a much bigger MMA fan. As a matter of fact, it's because I became such a big MMA fan that I began to follow boxing. I remember seeing and hearing about Tyson growing up, but it was Gatti/Ward 3 and Pacquiao/Morales 1 that got me real into it. With that said, people still like to compare the two, for reasons I don't understand. When I first started watching these things, I compared them a lot too, but I realized real fast that these are two completely different art forms, sports, and cultures.

He's right.

I dunno TS, I'd say the guy in your avatar is the best looking of the bunch. And he has great hair!!

One hell of a fight. All respect for Algieri, I thought that Khan was going to steamroll him, and he came in and made this a super competitive fight. I can agree with 115-112 or 116-112, but 117-111? I don't know about that...

Everyone gets nervous before a fight, good for him for being honest.

154lb. I hope this doesn't happen though. Would I watch it? Sure. Is it something I'll be screaming for? Nah. I think Pac/Mayweather won't be the fight that it could have been years ago, but I'd still rather see that than a Cotto/Floyd rematch.

Note to self: Whenever a boxer has a very good performance, it means they're on PEDs.

I'm down for this fight! Make it happen!

I was expecting something super dumb, but that was pretty funny hahahaa.

YEEEAH!!! Screw Boxing on Network TV!!!! I love paying $60+ to watch!

I take all these announcements with a grain of salt. We've been here before and it didn't happen, so I'm trying not to get excited about it. With that said, IF this is indeed true, then Floyd has NO reason to not take the fight.

I'd say Pacquiao/Hatton, just because Hatton was a guy who was known to get in there and throw down. He'd been hurt in the past, and Mayweather stopped him, but I don't think anyone figured he'd get blown out the way that he did, especially as early as he did. Khan on the other hand, while the KO was brutal, I think a lot of people were expecting to be taken out sooner or later.

I'm a fan of both, and while I think it'll pretty one sided for Canelo, I think they both always come to fight. That all being said, I have no intention of spending $60-$70 on this. Probably catch it at a sports bar or something.

What's stupid is MMA fans coming onto a boxing forum and trying to kick knowledge and start sh*t with boxing fans. What's stupid is Ronda Rousey, Dana White and the rest of the MMA instigators constantly trying to demean and belittle boxing and boxing's elite fighters. Yes, they are different sports. Let's think about that for awhile. Any boxing fan who goes on an MMA forum and tries to stir up conflict is just as much a f*cking moron as any the morons here on Boxingscene doing the same thing. There's a DIVISION here and it's been caused overwhelmingly by loudmouth MMA fans. Period. I can't disagree with that. As an MMA fan, I often find myself rolling my eyes whenever people like Dana White try to belittle boxing, that also goes for people who run around NSB with threads like this. That being said, it's not uncommon to see the opposite happen. I've seen a lot of people randomly start crap at Sherdog and some of the other big MMA forums, which, as you said, is just as stupid.

1. Stupid comparison. That's like saying, "NFL >>> Basketball." 2. Diaz is NOT a top 5 Welterweight. Top 10 at Lightweight, sure. But he's not top 5 at 155lb. 3. The notion that grappling isn't "fighting like a man" is ****ing retarded. It's a different type of fighting and, like Boxing, is definitely IS an art and a skill.

According to BoxRec, Canelo's only half an inch taller and actually has shorter reach than Khan. That kind of threw me off. Of course, I'm expecting Canelo to be the bigger guy, in terms of frame and muscle mass. I heard Khan say earlier on a podcast, that he walks around 163-164, so I wonder if he'll be able to gain enough weight to make the size difference less of an issue, while not drastically giving up his speed, for this fight. That being said, I still expect Canelo to beat him decisively and maybe even stop him.

True that happens sometimes, just like in boxing when one guy gasses and gets stopped.. But the real skill is when you can put on a choke when your getting beat or in a rough fight,, silva popping that triangle on sonnen, or when big nog was getting beat by Sylvia and he caught him in a choke... Jon jones choking out machida.. Werdum catching fedor in a triangle.. Watch the old school Nick diaz vs takanori Gomi fight from 2006ish in pride,, incredible fight and incredible choke to end.. Shinya aoki has out of this world chokes.. Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn way back in the day, another good example Not only that but, like boxing, things like movement, positioning, and technique are things that have to be learned over a long and consistent period of time spent training. You can teach anyone to throw a left hook, a right straight, or an armbar, but without the ability to move into position, set up the attack, and understand when and where it can be properly applied, it's useless. I mean, there's always the chance of just jumping into it and landing it, but to efficiently apply those techniques, I think everything else has to be learned to supplement it. I always compare grappling to boxing, in the sense that the average joe can understand a KO punch or a chokehold, but when things get technical and slower (Jake Shields, GSP, Mayweather, Rigondeaux) those same people start *****ing and moaning about how "boring" it is. And they're not always wrong because that **** can definitely get real boring, but I think it takes a certain amount of education to better appreciate the minor details.

I think his performance last night had more to do with Cotto being a beast, than any sort of injury Sergio might have had.