Jaron Boots used to fight an average of 4x a year. He started in 2016 and fought 8x. The next year (2017) he fought 9x.
Five times in 2018. Two times in 2019. Three times in 2020. Two times in 2021. Once in 2022 last year. Last fight was weeks ago.
As you can see, his activity went downhill dramatically. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/756515
Nuff said. Nothing more to say.
Any other fighter with similar record? Just wondering how you can find nine bums in a year nowadays.
The waiting for Spence excuse is now gone for Ennis. What should happen next? I don't think Spence will be back rushing to negotiate after his fight with Thurman.
What I was wondering about was the inactive fighters' situation where some of them have been itching to go back in the ring, but can't because there's no money in the bank.
With the exception of Jermall Charlo, who is clearly his choice for being inactive, others with long unintended layoffs might be feeling stranded in a traffic they didn't expect to experience. They could be waiting for nothing. Six months of inactivity is long enough, let alone one year or more.
Charlo would soon be blaming himself for turning down lucrative fights that would have provided him more and longer vacations. Right now I see nothing for him other than cheap tuneups, which he has penchant for, that would probably net him $10K each, which is basically a waste of time with all the training he had to do. Adames is waiting and that's 3 times tougher than Jermall's last fight.
Clock is ticking fast for him and he will likely to jump ship with a heavy heart.
Yeah, tuneups or showcase fights are basically waste of time for high-profile fighters nowadays. Like Adrien Broner said, you have to fight Godzilla to get the money you want.
When Broner said it he was referring to Crawford, who became his cousin because of the BLK connection, "he was not even fighting a nobody, he was fighting Spence, yet he was not offered guarantee money."
I can see many Martirosyans coming out to complain about not having fights for more than a year. Remember him? Vanes? He was forced to retire.
Yeah, I remember him, who can forget? He's not the only one who was being kept on the shelf during that time. So this thing about boxers fighting once a year is not new. His last fight was a rematch with Lara, then managed to secure a fight with Golovkin exactly two years later on HBO.
My guess is he's going to sit it out for the rest of the year. He'll wait for the Spence/Thurman outcome. It's too much risk to take ANY fight based on his team's track record. Karen is his first and last fight for the year, imho.
Yeah, that's the most likely scenario that will play out in the Ennis camp just like last year until he gets criticized for being too inactive and be forced to look for any fight again at the closing of the year. I see another huge gap in between his last and next fight. Seems predictable. But we could be wrong. I also see Showtime's Espinoza tired of taking the heat and do something drastic.
Doesn't matter to me who as long as he takes one or two (preferably) more fights before the year ends. Inactivity is the number one enemy of this sport.
Ennis vs Terence “Bud” Crawford. Lol
I already made a thread about it and bumped it up yesterday and no one seems interested, all of a sudden. They were blaming Bud for taking Avanesyan, instead of Boots. Now that both are available to fight, they don't want it anymore.
Any possibility of Crawford vs Ennis happening this year?
There's not much the Showtime exec can do if his offers are perennially turned down. That's why Espinoza needs to start throwing these guys under the bus, who he made offers to, who turned them down, etc. I'm sure most of these dormant fighters were asked to come back, but wanted money Showtime can't afford to pay. Take it from Broner. These PBC guys will only get paid big money if they fight Godzilla.
Well, nobody knows the whole story, like why a young prime fighter prefers to be inactive when there's so many options for him in the same street. I don't think guys like Butaev, Kavaliauskas, Crowley, Barrios would turn down fights. These guys would probably fight Kingkong just to get back in the ring and earn money for their families.
I think Ennis gets a pass for this one on the basis that it's for the interim IBF title - the opponent is admittedly very poor but he was the highest ranked contender available.
Was Thurman not asking for $10m to fight Ennis? I'd have him down on the list of duckers.
Hmm, I don't know why people see his case in narrow lenses. Here Thurman is mentioned when Keith avoided many names. No one seems to question Ennis' 16th, 17th, 18th fight, etc. They don't wonder why after 15th, 20th, he still won't fight Kavaliauskas level opponents. We're not even asking Thurman-level.
Anyone else you can think of who wants to skip the harder tests and head straight to the money fights? Yeah, it's true some fighters get to be picked by established fighters without earning it. We call them stay-busy fights. But why would you want to be categorized like that and be treated as such? Why not try to earn it properly?
PBC has a long roster and the majority of their fighters don't have a fight scheduled.
That's what I thought. And I opened a thread to determine the names,
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/31682027-how-many-part-time-boxers-this-sport-now-have
Anyone of those in the list mentioned will say yes in a heartbeat. Butaev would be an okay stay-busy fight for Ennis. It doesn't have to be Kavaliauskas or anyone of that rep.
It's up to Ennis and his team now. I don't think fans will give him another pass if he does the same thing he did last year, sit around wait for nothing.
It won't add up if you say all those guys turned down a fight with Ennis, who himself hasn't done much. Their other option is what? Play waiting game for nothing.
None of those guys are nothing close to having A-side behavior. You can be sure they're dying to get back in the ring. And if you've been hearing Redkach sad predicament, his fight being canceled, blaming his promoter, cursing this sport, etc. So no, there's no sense turning down fights at this level. None.
If Crawford is talking to GBP, based on the photo with Oscar and Hopkins, it's probably Rocha and Ortiz Jr. Waste of time with Cobb. After Stanley, Ortiz is going to be as ready as he ever will be for the fight. I don't see the defeat railroading his career. Put up a great fight like Yarde just did and you still come out winning. The "0" thing is BS! If Frankie Randall is my favorite all-time fighter, why would I care if a fighter has a defeat or 3 as long as he is making the relevant fights.
Do you think Ortiz loses to Stanionis? Is Stanley his other name, what am I missing?
BTW, I started a thread, which I thought should be stickied.
Why is losing once so horrible in the sport of boxing?
Impossible unless Oscar is lying. Why in the world would he give up the WBO mandatory for a 2nd time if he has to go full circle to fight Crawford without a WBO ranking? Makes absolutely zero sense.
As far as the month running Father and Son...once their IBF petition clears they will be removed from the WBO too. So that's Crawford fault they are voluntarily being removed from the WBO even though they want to fight Crawford and Crawford is ducking them,
Spence fans are a new level of silly!
You mean Team Ennis is deliberately removing themselves from the possibility of a Bud Crawford smoke. That's a whole new level of ducking. In my mind being mandatory is something to take advantage of, not run away from. One of Boots fans is angry that Ortiz abandoned his #1 spot, instead of celebrating it because by then his hero Ennis would be elevated to #1.
In fairness, I think they just want to stay in the Showtime/PBC platform, savor the fruits they can offer. Except that I don't wanna hear him bark and whine BLK didn't pick him.
It started with Plant ignoring Benavidez's call outs after capturing an IBF belt from Uzcategui. Plant didn't have the same fire as in the Uzcategui fight.
Hate to repeat it, but Jaron "Boots" Ennis needs to enforce his mandatory spot on the WBO title by filing a petition and force a purse bid. This guy needs to be proactive and stop being passive.
What more is there to talk about? I can't even get a handful interested in talking about Ennis' next fight. Whether he will continue to play waiting game like he did last year. In other words, it's become normal for these new breed to wait, wait, wait for the big fights and won't even take stay-busy fights while waiting.
This is the legacy left from the previous crop. Invest in time like DaVinci paintings getting bigger in value as they age. It's a marination era where boxers are terrified of losing.
Only way this fight can at least move an inch is if the WBO orders the fight. Jaron "Boots" Ennis got a number 2 spot on the WBO ranking, but won't exercise that right. He barks when fights are already made. Few months ago he's so sure of beating Crawford saying he'll take the fight in a hearbeat. Now that Crawford is freely available, he stopped barking. He could at least get mad why they're making him so inactive.
If Crawford is talking to GBP, based on the photo with Oscar and Hopkins, it's probably Rocha and Ortiz Jr. Waste of time with Cobb. After Stanley Ortiz iis going to be as ready as he ever will be for the fight. I don't see the defeat railroading his career. Put up a great fight like Yarde just did and you still come out winning. The "0" thing is BS! If Frankie Randall is my favorite all-time fighter, why would I care if a fighter has a defeat or 3 as long as he is making the relevant fights.
Boxers were active during those days. To think that Chavez Sr retired after 115 fights and Randall 77 fights is unbelievable. Nowadays boxers (I even hesitate to call them fighters) just wait for money fights and won't even take stay-busy fights for fear of losing once.
I like Ennis but he was EXPOSED in his last fight. His people never let him in their with either Spence or Crawford. Maybe in 2-3 years if he improves.
Ennis made sure the Crawford fight won't happen by dropping out of the WBO rankings. He's low priority to Spence, who would most likely resurrect the Crawford negotiations after the Thurman fight. All these things will take time, which is why Boots is basically playing waiting game.
It's not clear when the 120 days countdown from IBF's order for Spence to decide began or will begin. Is it after the Thurman fight?
Either way, Spence will most likely vacate and the vacant title will be contested between Ennis and some unknown individual.
This fight has no chance of happening despite both of them being available.
Jaron "Boots" Ennis closed all doors by dropping out of the WBO mandatory spot. It's clear he wants nothing to do with Terence "Bud" Crawford. Well, not at this time anyways. It shattered all his claims of wanting the fight "in a heartbeat."
Any chance inactivity in boxing getting pumped up a bit this year? Man I'm hungry for fights. Don't much care who they fight. Most times cherrypicks gone wrong are more stimulating to watch. Let them pick cherries all they want and hope they fight often.