Crawford is available. Ennis will soon be after his fight with Karen this weekend. Boots said he would take it in a hearbeat but won't file a petition to signal WBO that he is ready for it. Bud just announced he is fighting 3 times this year. Spence wants to come back in May, so there is that window to make something happen.
Accepting as it is with camp Ennis' remarkable passivity, what needs to happen first before this fight reaches first stage? Can someone ring WBO to order the fight? Ortiz ranks #1 in the WBO listing, but he dismissed it twice and now fighting Stanionis for the WBA title shot qualifier. Meaning Ennis who is #2 will automatically be elevated to #1 spot.
Boxers were active during those days. To think that Chavez Sr retired after 115 fights and Randall 77 fights is unbelievable. Nowadays boxers (I even hesitate to call them fighters) just wait for money fights and won't even take stay-busy fights for fear of losing once.
Losing fights nowadays are no longer taken as learning experiences, become better, gain more focus next time. They're taken as graves to your boxing career.
If Crawford is talking to GBP, based on the photo with Oscar and Hopkins, it's probably Rocha and Ortiz Jr. Waste of time with Cobb. After Stanley, Ortiz is going to be as ready as he ever will be for the fight. I don't see the defeat railroading his career. Put up a great fight like Yarde just did and you still come out winning. The "0" thing is BS! If Frankie Randall is my favorite all-time fighter, why would I care if a fighter has a defeat or 3 as long as he is making the relevant fights.
Do you think Ortiz loses to Stanionis? Is Stanley his other name, what am I missing?
BTW, I started a thread, which I thought should be stickied.
Why is losing once so horrible in the sport of boxing?
If Crawford is talking to GBP, based on the photo with Oscar and Hopkins, it's probably Rocha and Ortiz Jr. Waste of time with Cobb. After Stanley Ortiz iis going to be as ready as he ever will be for the fight. I don't see the defeat railroading his career. Put up a great fight like Yarde just did and you still come out winning. The "0" thing is BS! If Frankie Randall is my favorite all-time fighter, why would I care if a fighter has a defeat or 3 as long as he is making the relevant fights.
Boxers were active during those days. To think that Chavez Sr retired after 115 fights and Randall 77 fights is unbelievable. Nowadays boxers (I even hesitate to call them fighters) just wait for money fights and won't even take stay-busy fights for fear of losing once.
If Crawford is talking to GBP, based on the photo with Oscar and Hopkins, it's probably Rocha and Ortiz Jr. Waste of time with Cobb. After Stanley Ortiz iis going to be as ready as he ever will be for the fight. I don't see the defeat railroading his career. Put up a great fight like Yarde just did and you still come out winning. The "0" thing is BS! If Frankie Randall is my favorite all-time fighter, why would I care if a fighter has a defeat or 3 as long as he is making the relevant fights.
I highly doubt it. Ennis is going the IBF route.
Yep, Spence will probably release all his welterweight titles and then Ennis will claim the vacant IBF one and hold that belt hostage for a long time.
I like Ennis but he was EXPOSED in his last fight. His people never let him in their with either Spence or Crawford. Maybe in 2-3 years if he improves.
Ennis made sure the Crawford fight won't happen by dropping out of the WBO rankings. He's low priority to Spence, who would most likely resurrect the Crawford negotiations after the Thurman fight. All these things will take time, which is why Boots is basically playing waiting game.
It's not clear when the 120 days countdown from IBF's order for Spence to decide began or will begin. Is it after the Thurman fight?
Either way, Spence will most likely vacate and the vacant title will be contested between Ennis and some unknown individual.
I like Ennis but he was EXPOSED in his last fight. His people never let him in their with either Spence or Crawford. Maybe in 2-3 years if he improves.
This fight has no chance of happening despite both of them being available.
Jaron "Boots" Ennis closed all doors by dropping out of the WBO mandatory spot. It's clear he wants nothing to do with Terence "Bud" Crawford. Well, not at this time anyways. It shattered all his claims of wanting the fight "in a heartbeat."
Only way this fight can at least move an inch is if the WBO orders the fight. Jaron "Boots" Ennis got a number 2 spot on the WBO ranking, but won't exercise that right. He barks when fights are already made. Few months ago he's so sure of beating Crawford saying he'll take the fight in a hearbeat. Now that Crawford is freely available, he stopped barking. He could at least get mad why they're making him so inactive.
Only chance I see is if Boots/Showtime/Ratfink Espiniza make an offer. Afterall, Ennis is the one with the exclusive contract......boots in now ibf interim holder too.
Hate to repeat it, but Jaron "Boots" Ennis needs to enforce his mandatory spot on the WBO title by filing a petition and force a purse bid. This guy needs to be proactive and stop being passive.
This is the perfect time for this fight to happen. Why? They're both available. Spence is fighting Thurman.
If this fight is not made now, it will never happen.
Impossible unless Oscar is lying. Why in the world would he give up the WBO mandatory for a 2nd time if he has to go full circle to fight Crawford without a WBO ranking? Makes absolutely zero sense.
As far as the month running Father and Son...once their IBF petition clears they will be removed from the WBO too. So that's Crawford fault they are voluntarily being removed from the WBO even though they want to fight Crawford and Crawford is ducking them,
Spence fans are a new level of silly!
You mean Team Ennis is deliberately removing themselves from the possibility of a Bud Crawford smoke. That's a whole new level of ducking. In my mind being mandatory is something to take advantage of, not run away from. One of Boots fans is angry that Ortiz abandoned his #1 spot, instead of celebrating it because by then his hero Ennis would be elevated to #1.
In fairness, I think they just want to stay in the Showtime/PBC platform, savor the fruits they can offer. Except that I don't wanna hear him bark and whine BLK didn't pick him.