Who exactly avoided Ennis? What are the names?

How much money were they offered to fight him? Nobody ducks anything if the money is right.

Who exactly avoided Ennis? What are the names? Ennis camp needs to start naming names who actually ducked them. We're not even talking about Spence or Thurman level. We're talking about Kavliauskas or Stanionis level. He's got none of those in his 30 fights resume. And now he's adding another no name next.

Nobody. Man could've been fighting Virgil or Conor and was beating cans and shouting Spence's name. :lol1:

Anyone else you can think of who wants to skip the harder tests and head straight to the money fights? Yeah, it's true some fighters get to be picked by established fighters without earning it. We call them stay-busy fights. But why would you want to be categorized like that and be treated as such? Why not try to earn it properly?

He has Spence, Crawford and Thurman shaking in their Boots Let's assume that's true. You can't keep on fighting Karen level opponents when more meaningful fights are available.

He has Spence, Crawford and Thurman shaking in their Boots

No one. His team picked and choose guys that won't derail the train. They picked Karen when other higher level opponents are available. Butaev would say yes in a heartbeat. Kavaliauskas, Avanesyan like you said was available for many months before the Crawford fight. Forget guys like Thurman, Spence, Crawford. You can't jump from fighting Karen level to those levels. That's cheating.

no one. 7th year as a pro and hasn't fought another top 10 fighter yet. And he won't for the rest of this year and fight 2 or 3 times this year against opponents none of us know.

I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying. There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme. Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight. No one has avoided him.

I agree with OP in a way. Ennis has not been in this position long enough to be considered avoided. As for his career progression his team took their time to develop him along the way. I have issue with that and sometimes think more fighters should do that instead of trying to rush things. If in a year from now he has not had a meaningful fight against a top contender pr ex champion then you can start saying he is avoided I feel. All that said, as aof right now fighters around his simialr rank and position do appear to not want anything to do with him because of the high risk factor.

I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying. There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme. Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight. Keith Thurman.

I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying. There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme. Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight. Well, if he's in his 31st fight and still "fighting a guy nobody has heard of," then there's nothing more to add. His team carefully picked guys that can't bite throughout his career. They see it in a business perspective and they're in it for a long haul.

I think Ennis gets a pass for this one on the basis that it's for the interim IBF title - the opponent is admittedly very poor but he was the highest ranked contender available. Was Thurman not asking for $10m to fight Ennis? I'd have him down on the list of duckers. Hmm, I don't know why people see his case in narrow lenses. Here Thurman is mentioned when Keith avoided many names. No one seems to question Ennis' 16th, 17th, 18th fight, etc. They don't wonder why after 15th, 20th, he still won't fight Kavaliauskas level opponents. We're not even asking Thurman-level.

I think Ennis gets a pass for this one on the basis that it's for the interim IBF title - the opponent is admittedly very poor but he was the highest ranked contender available. Was Thurman not asking for $10m to fight Ennis? I'd have him down on the list of duckers.