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Best quality so far... thanks for posting. Didn't look like much of a shot to put him down but for those who think it was stopped prematurely, watch it again. Sad to say, Roy was done and was hanging on for dear life. Even if it wasn't stopped then, Roy wouldn't have thrown another meaningful punch the rest of the fight. Again, very sad to see but maybe Roy will realize now that he has nothing left to prove and doesn't need to fight anymore.

I'm not sure what's worse... seeing Roy get KTFO again or seeing that Roy is trying to use an excuse, and a sorry one at that, 20+ days after the fight. I've followed Roy since the early 90s and like I said, seeing him the KOed is bad but this just may very well be worse.

if hopkins can't get calzaghe again. he should retire. IMO all the old guys (calzaghe, jones, hopkins) need to stay away from dawson......hopkins won't fight roy tho. he's actually keen on taking fights no one gives him a chance to win. after what just happened to roy, i doubt hopkins will have the "motivation" for that fight. had roy beat calzaghe, or even lost a close decision, things might be different.....but roy thoroughly got his ass beat. i don't think too many ppl wanna see roy anywhere near a boxing ring again. My thoughts exactly. If Hopkins can get Calzaghe, then that's the fight he should end his career with. But I don't think he would get a decision in Calzaghe's backyard, but that would be his best option. Hopkins-Jones 2 will NEVER happen. I think after the spanking Roy took from Joe, Hopkins feels sorry for Roy and even after the failed attempts at a rematch, he doesn't want to humiliate Roy. Being a RJJr fan for so long, it's hard to say that but that's exactly what would happen. Try to get Calzaghe or hang them up.

be careful what u wish for, if he wins he might think, damn, I've still got it, I'm still the man. Dawson, I'm coming to get ya!! That is what I'm afraid of. If, IF Roy wins, he'll think he's still got something left and get in over his head (if he's not already). He recently said he sees himself still fighting when he's 45. :dunno:

personally if roy beats joe... RETIRE... for th elove of god... retire. actually id really like him to keep fighting just because i love watching him fight... but, get out while the chips are up I agree with this but I would like to see Roy avenge his brutal KO loss of Glenn Johnson. If he gets past Calzaghe, Jones-Johnson 2 would be a better fight in my mind than another fight with Hopkins. It's not like those 2 will agree on terms anyway. Beat Calzaghe, avenge the Johnson loss and call it a career.

A very sad day indeed. Just about the same feeling as seeing him get toyed with by Calzaghe. Please retire Roy. I don't want to see you get hurt or humiliated anymore. I'm tired of seeing you getting used as a stepping stone.

Of course he will. Name a fighter that wouldn't fight if the money was right.

http://www.8countnews.com/news/129/ARTICLE/4655/2011-10-15.html New Roy Jones Jr., talks about his new trainer and how he feels in his training for this fight. I listened to that yesterday and shook my head. He said he guarantees that he'll be cruiserweight champion before 2013. I've been a RJJr fan forever and it's getting tough to see him like he is now.

Don't know how good this fight will be, but I feel a Tarver KO comin on the 11th, even tho I hope it don't happen. Please beat him Chad. Please. Or at least, land enough to swell his loud mouth shut. It doesn't matter if Dawson dominates him (I don't see that happening) or knocks him out (don't see that one either), Tarver will spin it like he did when Hopkins mopped the ring with him. If Dawson is careless, he will get caught and if it's early in the fight, it may be lights out for Bad Chad. But, if he can take a few shots and last until the later rounds, we all know that Tarver will be out of gas by the 8th or 9th round.

Pretty unfortunate but not unexpected. It is clear that Roy is not ready to give it up yet, I guess he doesn't want to step away from the spotlight. As a big Roy fan it kills me to say it, but I think it is almost going to take someone hurting him pretty badly in the ring for him to finally give it up. The man is just too proud. Being a huge Roy fan too, I'm of the same opinion. I know he doesn't want to go out with the spanking he took from Calzaghe. It was hard to see him KOed in Tarver 2 and against Johnson, then having Calzaghe make a fool out of him but he could get seriously hurt against Holyfield. Holyfield isn't what he used to be but he's got enough punch left to knock Roy out from the opening bell. I understand Roy not wanting to go out on an almost shutout loss (and bleeding for the first time in his career) but he's putting his health and legacy in jeopardy by continuing to fight. If you want to go out on a W, fight a bum in Pensacola and call it a career. It's been a pleasure watching you fight but enough is enough and your true fans don't want to see you get seriously hurt.

I think he should hang the gloves up but it would be good for him to go out on a high and I think thats whats driving him in this fight. If he wins he needs to retire if not then its going to be sour for him I agree but the problem I see if Roy does indeed fight again and win... he'll think he still has something left (i.e. beating the Prince, Hanshaw and Trinidad) and will look to fight on.

We all know this is just Hopkins running his mouth (like he always does) trying to sell the fight. We also all know that it won't be a bloodbath. This is a dangerous fight for Hopkins at his age and a possible stepping stone for Pavlik. It's not a fight everyone wants to see but we really don't have alot of fighters knocking down Pavlik's door. I still don't understand why Pavlik agreed to go up to a catch weight. If Hopkins wanted to fight bad enough he should have to come down to challenge Pavlik.

I expect Dawson to fight Johnson again. Realistically that would be Dawson's best logical choice, unless Calzaghe suddenly decides to fight Dawson (which I highly doubt). If Dawson wants to quiet the critics, he will fight Johnson again. Calzaghe won't fight Dawson, he may fight a few more in the UK to get past Marciano's record and then bow out. If he wanted a big money fight, a Hopkins rematch would be his smartest choice, but that too, probably won't happen.

My problem with that article Bigpoppa is it talks about RJJ being relevant which IMO he hasnt been since the Johnson fight or if you wanted to be generous you could say Tarver III. Jones is only in this fight because of his name, his career over the past few years hasn't been relevant at all. What has he done lately? Calzaghe is taking this fight for 2 reasons #1 he's always called out Jones and now he's got him, and #2 to Cal beating a name fighter past his best is better than beating a good contender, also some critics could add a 3rd and say Cal is taking an easy fight for big money. Either way RJJ is no longer relevant. That's the good thing about being a great boxer/P4P great in your prime. Your name alone will keep you relevant enough to get a big money fight in your twilight. I agree with everyone in that this fight is long overdue and being a Roy fan, I hope that he'll hang them up after this one. He has a better chance than some are giving him and if his legs don't tire out, he should be in it for the long haul. He won't be looking for a KO, as he hasn't looked for a KO in 5+ years. It should be a better fight that the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight and I'll be pulling for Roy. Either way, these guys are showing great respect for each other, then again, the fight is still 2 months away and things should start to get heated the closer we get to fight night.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_roy_jones_jr_facing_decision_after_ugly_.html Thanks for the link... For years it seemed like these 2 couldn't stand each other and for Bernard to go into Roy's dressing room after the fight and say that to him shows character that I personally didn't know Bernard had. I hate to hear about one of Roy's sons being so upset, that's heartbreaking. Life will go on and Roy has put his fingerprint on boxing so he has nothing to be ashamed of. He just doesn't have it anymore and unfortunately he didn't/couldn't get out of the boxing game before he took a beating like this to make him realize it. It sucks for Roy fans like myself and it was tough watching him get KOed twice but Saturday night was just awful to watch. He needs to leave well enough alone before he get seriously hurt. Just sad.

Pavlik needs to win this by KO get anything out of this fight. If Hopkins makes Pavlik look like Calzaghe when he fought Hopkins, this will take all the momentum away from Pavlik. Nothing less than a KO will suffice in this fight for boxing fans and critics. What's the deal with the catch weight? Hopkins needs Pavlik not the other way around. I wouldn't be surprised if Hopkins prices himself out of this fight anyway. If it does get signed, it SHOULD NOT be a PPV fight. Put it on HBO or whatever so Pavlik can get some much needed exposure.

Let me see if I can get this straight. Big Roy was the cause of him "not winning" against Tarver the 3rd time but Big Roy is the reason he didn't win against Calzaghe? I've followed RJJr for years and it was fascinating to watch him in his prime and now to see him in costumes and all, it's just sad to me. He's a grown man and if he wants to continue to fight, that's his business. As a fan, I just don't want to see him get hurt. In my eyes, there's nothing he can do to tarnish his legacy. That being said, know your limits Roy.

WHY are people STILL bitching about this fight? It can't be helped... Tarver's belt was on the line the first time, so he put a rematch clause in the contract, and Tarver is making Dawson fight him again. If Dawson refuses, he gets sued out of his mind. This is Antonio Tarver's fault, and he doesn't have any better payday options, so who can blame him? Yeah, it sucks, but... there's nothing that can be done about it. Well said. I can't stand Tarver but it's no worse than any other old timer trying to hang on. But if Dawson takes this lightly, it could end up like the other Tarver rematches.

Wow...it's funny how a lot of fans on here are not even giving Roy Jones a chance. RJJ has nothing left to prove. But I do believe he will win the fight by Dec. You guys talk a lot about how Joe will give Roy problems with his "swarming" style. Believe me, I have nothing but respect for Joe, but the guy doesn't have enough power to hurt Roy, so I believe RJJ won't be afraid to engage him. I guess I'll put it this way...back when Roy was in his prime, I'm sure that we can all say that Roy would've been one of the top p4p even if he had half the skill he possessed at the time. This is our chance to see it. His hand speed is still miles ahead of most of the fighters at LHW...and his power?? If B-Hop put Joe on his ass, I think Roy will do it for sure. Stop the hating...either way, we're in for a great scrap. Enjoy REAL boxing fans :) As far as his legacy is concerned, no he doesn't have anything to prove but he has something to prove to himself and to the haters. If he's able to win this fight, he will go from top of the hill to being brutally knocked off, to climbing his way back to get this chance and getting back close to the top. Being a huge RJJr fan, I will be just fine if after this fight (win, lose or draw) and call it a career. The only fight that would satisfy me after this one is one with Johnson but I don't see that happening. Roy, you have been magnificent to watch so after Sept. 20th, you can ride off into the sunset with no argument from me.

roy said in the interview where he was contemplating retirement that he didn't see the punch coming that put him down....green was right in front of him walking him down, and it wasn't like the punch came from a crazy angle, nor was it lightning fast....that should tell you right there that roy's reflexes are gone man, loaded gloves ain't gonna speed green up...retire jones...whats a rematch gonna prove... Yeah, I saw that one too. That's why I'm not sold on a rematch and honestly don't really want him to fight anymore period. He's got nothing left to prove. But his fans have been saying that for years and here we are.

"Hopkins is a huge name in the middleweight division" Then why is the fight at 170? Seems like Hopkins is getting what he wants and it should be the other way around. If Hopkins really wanted to fight then he should have to come down to whatever weight Pavlik wanted. Hopkins is betting on Pavlik's power not coming up with his weight. I really don't understand why Pavlik wants this just so they can either say he beat a 43 year old or he looked terrible (ala Calzaghe) against a 43 year old. Pavlik needs to understand going in that its going to be hard to be so active when Hopkins goes to his bag of tricks to slow down his workrate. We all know how active Calzaghe is and he was a shell of that when he fought Hopkins.

This really looks like a "Is Dawson our next big thing?" test.... A -- Can he beat a guy who arguably took him to his limit and the decision could have gone the other way? B -- Can Dawson be a draw? C -- If not, at least a close points fight will go to the hometown guy (who happens to be the favorite) . I can't see Dawson losing but this is boxing and stranger things have happened.

Glen Johnson has an interview on Fightnews, he says Roy obviously had an agreement to let Joe win, when he came out to hard in the first and damm near knocked Joe out he had to step off the gas and coast to let him win. Good interview actually. Did you listen to the whole thing? He ended up calling Roy a wimp. "For the rest of the fight, he fought like the wimp that he is." Wow, strong words from Glen but it's not like I can really disagree with what he said. It was embarrassing and it did look like after the 1st round, Roy didn't even try to win. As I've posted before, just very disappointed in Roy but maybe that was all he had to give but it's hard to believe after he dropped him in the 1st that he couldn't have finished him off. Oh well...

The problem is, Roy is not the same fighter. Takes a lot out of the fight. Still, I'm psyched and will be there live. OK, quickly I think: Calzaghes best strategy: jump on Roy from the opening bell and never ever let up. see Glen Johnson. Jones' best strategy: Hit Calzaghe with something very hard early to try and slow the fight down into a technical boxing match. If that fails, get on his bike so Calzaghe can't land anything much and try to counter as much as possible when he does catch up. Avoid the ropes. I think you are right. Looking back at the Trinidad fight, Tito throws his first punch and Roy takes 2 steps back looking to lean on the ropes if Tito engages. Joe has the stamina to put pressure on him the entire fight but he has to be willing to take counter hooks that have alot more on them than any hook B-Hop threw. Then again, Joe throws from all angles and his head tends to drop when he throws which would be open to a counter uppercut, that is if Roy is willing to throw it.

Lebedev-Jones = Drago-Creed Can't help but think of the exact same thing.....

It's funny to read all the back and forth about who hits harder. Has anybody in this forum actually taken a punch from Roy, Calzaghe, Kessler, etc.? If so, then you can talk about who hits harder. If not, how do you know? Just sit back and enjoy the fight and stop bickering like youngins.

U didn’t. I did. Just pointing out the fact that roy jones is only more gifted than Bernard physically, but he isn’t the greater fighter. U seem to be agreeing, by the fact u stated “its catching up with him now…” I'd have to be ignorant to not acknowledge that Roy's lack of technical skills in his prime is catching up to him now. He's just started using the peek-a-boo defense ala Winky Wright. There's no doubt that Hopkins is a great technician but that's b/c he HAD to be. Roy didn't have to be technically great b/c his reflexes were so far beyond anyone else that all he needed to do was move his head to avoid getting hit and yes, that did catch up with him later on. Honestly, both fighters should have hung them up years ago and would have still have been considered all time greats.

I really enjoyed the fight and the nerves were there too. Certainly edge of your seat stuff in the 1st few rounds. Calzaghe went down hard in the 1st and I honestly thought that was the end of him. Replays showed it was a combiantion of a punch and a forearm (accidental). Either way Joe had to drag himself up. I thought Roy started the showboating and then Calzaghe just outdid him. No harm in it as they both have been known to do it. Some superb heavy shots in the fight by Roy while Joe landed alot more and landed nice shots to the body. The fight for Joe was already in the bag for Joe by the time of the cut in the 7th which was horrendous. Full credit to Roy for not quiting or giving up even though he must have sensed he was a beaten fighter. http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/43178/2530030530103326886S600x600Q85.jpg Joe fought a superb fight tactically and picked his punches well combining them with the flurries when needed. Now Please retire Joe - I can't take anymore. (Roy should get out aswell after a great final last stand from a Legend) Anyone who watched the fight sensed that he already knew he was a beaten fighter. I'll give Roy credit for finishing the fight w/ one eye but after the 1st round, heck in the first round I could tell that Roy wasn't what he needed to be to beat Calzaghe. The knockdown was great but from the opening bell, it seemed Roy was content with landing 2 shot combos (which was reduced to 1 shot as the fight went on) as opposed to Zags 3-4-5 punch combos. Like he was countering 3-4 punch combos with just a straight right. Too much going back and laying on the ropes to do anything and for pete's sake, why didn't he put his hands up? By the end of the 3rd round, his eye was already swollen. Once the cut happened (a shock to me b/c he's never been cut before) you could tell his depth perception was off b/c he couldn't hit Joe with his 1 punch counters. He was missing those badly. Just a sad day for Jones' fans to see their favorite fighter bleeding and just beaten and embarrassed with all the hotdogging Joe was doing. Like I've said though, props to Joe for a good comeback after the first round and making the adjustments and picking and out Roy Jones-ing my favorite fighter. Congratulations to him and he and Roy both need to call it a career.

I will be pulling for Manny but I think Oscar is just too big for him. Hopefully he proves me wrong. I have alot of respect for Manny for taking this fight and he should be able to hang in there in the early rounds but one clean left hook from DLH and it's lights out for Manny.

There should be a “no excuses” clause in boxing contracts…..i’m tired of hearing this “muscle loss” as an excuse….if roy wasn’t “right” he should not have fought…period. Hopkins never blames his losses on his age…. The problem with your argument is roy jones was never “technically” great. Roy jones was blessed with great athletic attributes. Once you get “older” and that athleticism leaves, you gotta rely on your ring smarts, and your technical skills. Roy was superior athletically to Hopkins, but Hopkins is unmatched as far as skills and smarts….athleticism only gets you so far. So while roy jones fans want to blame everything on his weight loss dilemma, it could also be said, his athletic skills diminished, and what was left is what we have now…..roy jones will not be able to fight into his forties, in fact, within the next year he’ll be done as an “elite”prizefighter…… I agree this is absolutely hype for a rematch, in the case roy gets past calzaghe…..but roy just has to win, it would be nice to see him KO calzaghe, but any kond of win opens the door for a rematch w/ Hopkins……… Where in my post did I say Roy was "technically" great? Never said he was technically great. He didn't have to be and unfortunately that is coming back to hurt him now.