an ATG dont fight a guy with 1 win and 7 losses
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Can someone explain to me what this raging f*ggot is talking about?
That was a prime Hamed. That was Hamed against strong opposition. That's why Hamed lost. Barrera was the only strong fighter he fought.
Why did PEDquez turn down a career high purse to duck Hamed?
People need to stop pretending Saunders is better than he is. Golovkin tracks him down and stops him within six rounds and Saunders has absolutely nothing to stop it from happening. This is the same guy squeaking past Euro level guys like Ryder and Eubank Jr, ffs.
They're not taking fans away, just attracting new ones while boxing fails to do so. Casual fans don't have time for the same tedious bullsh*t that boxing fans time and time again have to put up with. They're not interested in marinating and ducking; they're fans of real sports, where such bollocks doesn't take place. They want the best, most compelling matchups and they want them now.
Boxing will only become more and more unpopular as the core audience ages and dies off. They've failed miserably in attracting younger viewers and it's all entirely down to what boxing and the greedy, self-serving f*cks inside it have done to it.
Brook-Khan is a mismatch; Brook flatten him inside four rounds and Khan knows and has always known this. That's been the biggest, most obvious and readily available fight for him for the last three years and he hasn't taken it because he doesn't want to be embarrassed in his own country by Kell Brook of all people.
And yes, Brook's more talented and skilled than Alvarez, who relies on size and stationary targets to look good. He'd struggle badly against a sharp and fluid boxer like Brook, and his inability to cut the ring off and economical style would give Brook all the time in the world to let his hands go.
So they wanted Chilemba at short notice, barely two months off the back of going twelve rounds with Kovalev? Yeah, can't imagine why they weren't jumping at the generous offer.
Michel is a schyster.
Jay-Z's not the lead for the event; Main Events is.
Simply compare Roc Nation's efforts behind Cotto-Alvarez (where they were the lead promoter) to Kovalev-Ward (where they are a co-promoter).
Jay-Z's not getting any upside on the event, so why put his social media muscle behind someone else's work.
DJ Khaled reached out an put Jay-Z on his lead single for his album; I'd bet you all the money in my pocket that Jay-Z wasn't on social media, pushing folks to go onto Itunes and purchase an album that he saw no points on.
Cotto-Canelo was a co-promotion just like this, and the promotion for that event stunk, too.
It'd cost nothing for Jay Z to give a single mention to the fight on one of his social media accounts. It's his company involved in promoting this, ffs.
And making a profit is difficult when your audience is so small. This fight will flop massively on ppv, primarily because few know that it's happening.
I think some of these promoters need to think outside the box a bit more, don't get me wrong its probably harder than it looks from the outside and they are all still very intelligent people, but the way they are trying to reach people is the main problem I see at the moment.
It's honestly not that difficult, especially in the times that we live in. Literally your entire promotional operations can be done online nowadays and still reach a wide audience, and it can be done within a few seconds on your phone. There's absolutely zero excuse for such laziness and incompetency in this day and age.
You're right about Hearn, by the way. He's the one promoter who actually gets it, and he himself has bemoaned and derided the piss poor jobs American promoters do.
Damn, Spence must have already beaten some real top fighters to justify all the mad hype he's getting. Like, um, Leonard Bundu, who is 52 and himself had a life and death struggle to beat Frankie Gavin. Remind me of the rest of the murder's row on Spence's resume?
He's just been anointed as the next big thing by Mayweather bumsniffs because Void himself gave his approval. Even though they'd be dismissing him as some face-first brawler if he were of a different skin tone and didn't have the backing of minstrels like Donturd.
If Spence had a different skin tone you'd be riding his di.ck like a bicycle.
Don't project your own tendancies onto me, alt. I don't roll like you creepos do.
If you put any other promoter worth a damn and gave him a sky deal they'd be able to make as good if not better fights and be just as sucessful
There's a reason Hearn was given an exclusive deal in the first place, and it was because Sky wasn't happy with the content that other promoters were producing. Sky boxing was in the toilet and they were seriously contemplating pulling the plug on it all together at one point.
Boxing in Britain is unquestionably in a much stronger, healthier state now than it was five years ago, and that has directly coincided with Hearn's emergence.
I'm not from the UK and only been following the UK scene the last 3-4 years so you'd probably know better then me and for sure HEARN deserves some credit but to claim he's the best in the game isn't true. He has a great market to work with and usually gives them avg at best fights and fans still eat it up. He goes after weak champions or domestic fights to build his fighters up and avoid the top level guys. But acts like he wants to put them in with best and then switches them for a sub par opponet
Hes a decent salesman, but he also a 2nd generation promoter who's Dad was one of the top in the game I'm sure having those built in connections and structure in place made it easier to secure a sky deal.
Being a promoter is all about being able to sell and market a product and getting people to buy it. Nothing more than that. You have to be a top salesman to be a top pomoter; the two go hand-in-hand.
And Britain wasn't a great market five years ago, as I already explained. He's taken boxing from small halls and leisure centres on a Friday nights and made Saturday night cards at big arenas a regular occurance. There's a world title fight (yes, I'm aware of the proliferation of 'world titles' nowadays) headlining almost every one of these cards, whereas before we were getting British and commonwealth title fights at best. He's effectively tapped into the casual, young audience that virtually every other promoter in the world has failed to attract. He's generated probably more money for Sky than any other promoter over the last fifteen years.
I'm not from the UK and only been following the UK scene the last 3-4 years so you'd probably know better then me and for sure HEARN deserves some credit but to claim he's the best in the game isn't true. He has a great market to work with and usually gives them avg at best fights and fans still eat it up. He goes after weak champions or domestic fights to build his fighters up and avoid the top level guys. But acts like he wants to put them in with best and then switches them for a sub par opponet
Hes a decent salesman, but he also a 2nd generation promoter who's Dad was one of the top in the game I'm sure having those built in connections and structure in place made it easier to secure a sky deal.
Being a promoter is all about being able to sell and market a product and getting people to buy it. Nothing more than that. You have to be a top salesman to be a top pomoter; the two go hand in hand.*
And Britain wasn't a great market five years ago, as I already explained. He's taken boxing from small halls and leisure centres on a Friday nights and made Saturday night cards at big arenas a regular occurance. There's a world title fight (yes, I'm aware of the proliferation of 'world titles' nowadays) headlining almost every one of these cards, whereas before we were getting British and commonwealth title fights at best. He's effectively tapped into the young, casual audience that virtually every other promoter in the world has failed to attract.
That must be why hamed avoided marquez for 2 years when marquez was his mandatory.
And why Marquez promptly ducked the fight when it was offered to him.
Actually yes, it's a real possibility. Haymon has run out of money and is essentially telling his own talent to go find their own fights at this point. Stevenson's purses are decreasing and he has zero options at this point and Kovalev/Ward is by far the most lucrative option.
It goes both ways...but i don't know how serious the offer really was. 2 years tho? Cmon...
The article is out there somewhere. Marquez got offered in the region of $400,000 - $500,000 to fight Hamed in August 2000. He turned it down and fought some nobody for what would've been significantly less.
Eddie Hearn may be number 1 according to you. He's a fruad living off his dads money. Barry hearn has brought poker, bowling, racing, darts, fishing, boxing prize fighter way before eddie reared his ugly head.
The reason Eddie Hearn does well is because of his fathers relationship with sky. Its allowed him to monopolise the uk boxing market with sky. Also the British public are stupid enough to pay ppv for Antony Joshua fights 4-5 fights ago, some of his cards on sky box office are a disgrace. The majority of British fight fans are casuals. Most believe the hype they get fed.
Carl froch, haye etc only sided with hearn to get paid via sky ppv.
Yeah, I miss those days when SBO was reserved for only high quality bouts like Khan-Salita.
Hearn is living off his dad's money the same way Warren is living off Bill Ives' money nowadays. Difference is, Hearn is at least capable of generating revenue now and then. Warren does nothing but lose money for old Bill.
Milking networks and fans for all they have..It's sick, MMA will undoubtedly surpass boxing.
Will? It already has. The UFC is light years ahead of boxing right now as far as popularity and cultural relevance is concerned, at least in North America. Much stronger, more loyal core audience and far more appealing to the casual market.
why is it every time that JMM ever lost, it was a bad decision. Norwood was superior throughout much of the fight, i twas pretty clear. As was JOhn beating him and although the 2 Pac fights were close, it was Pac who actually got robbed in the first fight.
Because many of the decisions that have gone against him have been dubious at best. I consider the Norwood one the worst of the lot. He struggled in the fight but he still outboxed the negative, spoiling Norwood.
I'm not even a fan of the guy; he is actually the one who ducked the Hamed fight when it was offered to him. But I'm not going to pretend he hasn't had the raw end of the deal with relation to decisions going against him.
It's impossible for them to reorganise. They've blown through virtually all of their money and their brand has been completely tarnished thanks to putting out such an awful television product. It has about as much worth and credibility as the XFL had.
Boxing can only recover through a complete collapse. It needs to hit complete rock bottom in order for there to be some serious changes and for real structure and organisation to be brought in.
PBC isnt Haymonds money. Hes doing fine. Boxing fans and that investment fund are the ones hurting.
No, he's actually profited massively from his cut of his fighters grossly inflated purses and not lost anything in the process.
So they destroy his career over F@g comments as Trump said PC is killing this country or other Leftist Countries
No, he destroyed his own career by taking steroids and then blatantly refusing to be tested more recently. His own cousin is also under investigation for similar road use.
Danny Garcia is an absolute joke to boxing I'd actually root for a boring Terence Crawford to school him with running just to see that stupid undefeated logo on his resume gone because they sell his hype on that 0 which should have been gone a few years ago by now by Herrera and Peterson who both exposed him.
I'd prefer to see him convulsing on the canvas with his retarded, welfare bum father crying by his side, personally. We've already seen his limitations as a boxer exposed as it is.
Eggington is fighting Frankie Gavin next; they turned the Garcia fight down.
Eggington's coming off a comprehensive points loss to Bradley Skeete, by the way. They probably even saw Skeete being too awkward and tricky for them to look good against.
No where near as bad as GGG's joke of a ppv against the canadian guy and 51k in attendance would agree.
Actually tonight was a beautiful night of boxing by Canelo beating down that loud mouth.
The fact that your immediate response is to deflect towards Golovkin is a testament to how triggered you homos actually are by him.