Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
The Matches MAKE THEMSELVES to be honest, Dana White is no genius or anything. Because they have their OWN TITLES, OWN RANKINGS and they actually GO by their Rankings that is why they can give you #1 vs #2 match ups every time their big name guys FIGHT!
Conor McGregor sold 1.5 million PPV's and only earned 3 million which was a record high pay day in an MMA fight. These UFC guys dont know any better and dont know that they are getting fucked over financially. UFC reminds me of communism. All the fighters are workers who earn the company so much money yet get so little in return.
What a retard, you didn't know that he gets a % of ppv. He made 10 mil off each fight with Diaz. The reported payouts are what they report to the state athletic commission but the contracts guarantee them a piece of the pie.
Milking networks and fans for all they have..It's sick, MMA will undoubtedly surpass boxing.
Will? It already has. The UFC is light years ahead of boxing right now as far as popularity and cultural relevance is concerned, at least in North America. Much stronger, more loyal core audience and far more appealing to the casual market.
"take this ufc **** somewhere else. the biggest star in ufc just got choked out and all the fans just pretend it didnt happen - **** that nonsense."
Mcgregor took on a challenge most boxers (aside from Brook) won't do in moving up 2 weight divisions against a guy coming off 2 of the best wins in his career(nate diaz) one of which was over Michael johson. Mcgregor barely Loses the first fight and comes back to fight the much larger guy again and MASTER CLASS HIM. It was some sugar ray leanord type legendary stuff. Mcregor will then fight alvarez and have 2 belts..
I honestly wish more boxers would follow the mcgregor model in boxing...
I'm a big fan of both sports BTW
ANother question..., do you think Dana white waited until pacman-vargas, kov-ward were made in order to take some business? Consumer will only buy so many PPV's in a month. I think combat sports guys and casuals will definitely choose 205....?????
What say you????
Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
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take this ufc **** somewhere else. the biggest star in ufc just got choked out and all the fans just pretend it didnt happen - **** that nonsense.
Dana White, by most accounts, doesn't have as much sway when it comes to matchmaking as he would lead you to believe.
This is one of the reasons why you hear him make claims and promises that don't get fulfilled.
That, and he's a scumbag who doesn't have the ability to think before he speaks. Good for getting eyballs, though.
Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
Combat sports history lol. MMA sucks so who cares how stacked the cards are? Guys train for two years and win. It's amateur ****.
@$60 for the PPV, if UFC 205 ends up doing 1.5m buys, you're talking about $90m in revenue off of the PPV (likely down to $50m once the cable operators get paid).
How much money do the actual fighters end up seeing off of that $50m (without even counting the gate, sponsors, or any other revenues)? I doubt that the fighters even end up getting $15m of that.
Will boxing ever return to a point where the fighters (the folks actually risking their necks in the ring) are only going home with 20%-30% of the take, with the promoter taking everything else?
fat chance
Don't know about all the fighters, but McGregor gets paid $5/ PPV buy. If the fight gets 1.5M, he's looking at taking $7.5M of that $50M on top of his $3M purse.
UFC 205 is why I know Pacquiao and Vargas will FLOP and so will Ward vs Kovalev a week after. Nobody many are ordering 3 PPV's in 1 Month so somebody will be left completely out to dry and it will be BOXING!
UFC 205 will sell more than every HBO PPV this year COMBINED with that 1 Event. 3 PPV's in a month all back to back to back weekends is just DUMB
Weidman could headline his own card
Mcgregor could headline his own card
Alvarez and Cerrone Have, and could headline their own card
Even Misha tate has
A card like this would spread out over about 3 years in boxing. Milking networks and fans for all they have..It's sick, MMA will undoubtedly surpass boxing.
Imagine if NFL teams "negotiated" where and how they play, it's madness and doesn't work in any situation. Boxing needs a monumental overhaul if it will survive...
Conor McGregor sold 1.5 million PPV's and only earned 3 million which was a record high pay day in an MMA fight. These UFC guys dont know any better and dont know that they are getting fucked over financially. UFC reminds me of communism. All the fighters are workers who earn the company so much money yet get so little in return.
You know in Communist Countries you get about $10 a day 1.5 million is still good money. Your comparison is that to companies here not in Communist countries. Sears makes millions but pays employee $12
I posted this in the What Happened to PBC thread, and it's relevant to the topic here:
If Haymon wanted to take the UFC model and apply it to boxing, he forgot one thing. The UFC is an organization with it's own champions, there are no sanctioning bodies controlling the order of fighter ranks and multiple champions.
Back when PBC first launched, there was rumor that belts were being created and each weight class would end up with a PBC champion. If that had happened, there would have been tournaments set up to crown a champ, and an actual narrative to the fighters paths.
Doing something like that would have been revolutionary to the sport of boxing. Eliminate the 3rd wheel (the sanctioning bodies) and just create a central product for boxing. Now, this wouldn't have necessarily hurt the other networks as I would assume if the model worked out as intended, they would follow suit and HBO and Showtime would have their own roster with their own champs, similar to other MMA orgs like Bellator and Raizon. This may have increased the amount of top fights we would see as each would be competing for the gold standard of being the best.
Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
Unless I'm missing something, McG is the only known name on that roster of fights so no, they aren't all main event worthy of a PPV but in previous PPVs, UFC have put on some good cards.
Its not too far removed from how stacked PPV cards used to be in the 80s or even the 90s.
I agree we need a singular governing body but UFC is not a governing body. It is an American MMA promotion and because no other country, especially somewhere like Brazil with a huge MMA following, has the financial or media ability to promote on the same level as UFC.
If only a UFC style promotion could become a big part of boxing, we would start seeing some changes.
Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
Here, here, this is what boxing so desperately needs but I bet you most boxers at the very top would hate boxing becoming something like that. I mean Imagine Danny Garcia having to fight top level opposition one after another?
Boxing will take a lot of work to ever force it into one single type of thing but If there was just one main man in the US that would be a very welcoming start.
Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.
Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
@$60 for the PPV, if UFC 205 ends up doing 1.5m buys, you're talking about $90m in revenue off of the PPV (likely down to $50m once the cable operators get paid).
How much money do the actual fighters end up seeing off of that $50m (without even counting the gate, sponsors, or any other revenues)? I doubt that the fighters even end up getting $15m of that.
Will boxing ever return to a point where the fighters (the folks actually risking their necks in the ring) are only going home with 20%-30% of the take, with the promoter taking everything else?
fat chance
pretty sure its just one team making excuses out their ass as to why the fight hasn't happened. prob the team that dropped the belt, drained themselves down a division, is fighting unknown bums, making silly flat offers for a huge fight instead of the standard percentage split, delaying the fight another year instead of doing it now.
Thats what im saying though, if boxing was like the UFC canelo would have been forced a long time ago to fight GGG and he wouldnt be able to do **** about it.
Said this in another thread which as usual logic gets ignored on this site. It was about boxing not being able to afford more than 2 fights a year from all the top guys.
Some of you need to really re-think your answers.
4 fights a year would be perfect in a perfect world... but boxing doesn't have the $$ or pull that it used to. The networks and promotions can't afford 4 fights a year from all these top guys let alone the B tier.
The only way all these top guys fight 4 times a year is if some of their bum fights etc Canelo vs Khan, GGG vs Wade, Wilder vs Arreola, Joshua vs Breazeale were on undercards for a bit less $$. But that won't happen because of the state boxing is in.
Whilst I prefer boxing to MMA I want to use the UFC as an example. The UFC business model makes it a lot better for these guys to fight multiple times a year because of the single promoter. How often do you see a UFC card where the co main event could easily main event it's own card?
UFC 200: Lesnar v Hunt, Silva v Cormier, Aldo v Edgar (Interim FW Title)... NONE of these were the main event. All 3 could EASILY headline a card and sell pretty damn well.
UFC 194: Weidman v Rockhold (MW Title) was the co-main.
Now in boxing everyone is obsessed with being the lone star. These guys should learn to understand that you don't HAVE to revolve a whole card around a one sided beatdown. Stack some cards. The promoters these days are amateurs.