''Hollywood has not made me soft.''
Haha, wow...soz De Niro.
So, Bellew is looking at Hernandez. I thought he was going down the Huck route.
Looking down the CW list and i'm note sure how many of the names i can actually see Bellew winning.
Hernandez, Huck, Drozd, Lebedev, Wlodarczyk, Makabu, Arslan, Ramirez, Kalenga, Kudryashov, Chakhiev, Afolabi.
Well Drozd and Lebedev haven't got bouts scheduled, reckon Bellew would have to go out to Russia too to face those guys. I would give him a good chance against any champion/ranked fighter in the division. Certainly are better boxers that him but he is a hard hitter at the weight.
Cruiserweight ain't really got a stand out fighter at the moment and the champions could do with being a bit more active. I quite like the depth and even competition though. You could say Huck seen as he has been world champion for time but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire, a trilogy with Afolabi, a double with Arlsan and some contentious decisions. He showed up well at heavyweight against Povetkin though.
What does that matter? Khan's 3rd or 4th defence was Paul McCloskey :lol1:
You're just shifting goalposts to suit your argument. Collazo is a just career loser according to your logic. A poor man's Lovemore N'Dou.
Gatekeepers don't come any better, hard as nails.
I'm pretty sure Saddam Ali is fighting Bradley for the WBO strap.
Most likely Chaves or Alexander but don't make either of them seem like amazing fights. Be impartial and remember that Chaves got stopped by Thurman and Alexander lost every round to Khan.
Can we rely on you to acknowledge they are steps in the right direction?
This common opposition is good as it will draw comparisons and further fuel the fire for matches involving Brook/Khan/Thurman in the future.
How do you know Khan won't fight Porter?
He may fight Porter, I've not questioned that fact.
He sure as hell slying his way out of a fight with Brook though.
In fact some clarification from Amir and Kell on their next opponents would be greatly appreciated.
I like it. If Brook can unify his IBF title with Bradley's WBO, he would make for an intriguing opponent for Mayweather's 50th fight.
I like how this joke thread has been met with an inadvertently sensible response.
I asked this because it seems like all the pro-Brook people are saying Porter beats Khan since that's Brook's best win.
I favour Porter slightly over Khan, I feel his style gives him problems.
That is independent of Brook's win over Porter.
I think Brook is a more winnable fight for Khan, I see that 50/50 right now.
Good fight should it get made.
Khan could outbox him, but Porter is gonna make him work every second of the fight.
Khan doesn't have the power to trouble Porter for me, and I can see Porter landing on Khan and having him in all sorts of bother.
Porter KO, but rounds will be close up to that point.
That's all good and dandy but the reality is Kell fought 1 good name in his whole career 'Porter' and is riding off that 1 win and no one criticizes him for his weak as fuk resume or his fights after winning the title, Special Kelly lucky as hell.
So what would you have had Brook do instead then?
I'm not making excuses for why Khan isn't fighting Brook. Khan is clearly ducking so there's that gone for you.
No one has still come up with a reason as to why Kell isn't the least bit lucky, dude is still riding off the 1 live body he beat in his whole career.
The strategy with Brook was to work him into the mandatory position for the IBF. If you consider the path to the title full of sub-standard fighters, then your issue is with the governing body.
Brook pretty much lost a year when the scheduled title fight was called off with Alexander twice.
The marquee fights will happen with Brook in the next 12-18 months, his promoters have been pretty clear with their intentions for him.
Sorry gentleman, I've been at work all day and been out on the booze all night tonight.
I cannot truly reveal my source, but it is a guy on the mainstream press who has been in direct contact with the man Joshua himself.
Next opponent Gary Cornish, most likely September card.
I can't see them putting Cornish in to get flattened by Johsua, they are trying to build him for.... something
Once his 0 goes he's got nothing.
Apparently Cornish is quite keen on trying to take Joshua's undefeated record.
He'll be be getting paid a fat wedge more than scrapping around exclusively on Tommy Gilmour cards.
One belt/universal governing body would make things much simpler in terms of defining who the champion is and the rankings of the division.
Just having the WBA/WBO/IBF/WBC would be fine as well, although interim and super champions just dilute things even further.
The true problem for me lies with the governing bodies not having any power to dictate who should fight who, it's all in the hands of the fighters and promoters.
Brook is shifting a fair bit of weight to get to 147. This is one of the reasons he's fougth above the weight before.
He looks like a lightmiddleweight to me as well.
I hear you, I just don't think it's an absolute struggle for him.
He looked like he'd been indulging himself when he was in the studio for the Broner vs Porter scrap. He's no Ricky Hatton, but he's not exactly Bernard Hopkins either when it comes to living the life.
I've seen a source stating the same too. for Sept 12th.
It was a link on facebook so can't remember which site.
Appears it is gathering momentum.
At least Cornish is a fighter coming in with his own ambitions.
Most likely Joshua does the business though.
It's sad when a champion and his promoter are literally begging to fight someone who hasn't 'done' anything in his same division. Brook should be content with whatever he makes because even that's a lot for him, he can take his whole family to a few more chavy hotspots for a solid decade to come.
It's a massive fight in the UK, unfortunately they don't come around all that often.
You know Brook will be kicking on regardless of whether Khan is up for the fight or not.
Well I don't think you need the credentials you think you need to fight mayweather, based on previous choices.
Khan needs to present a business case more than anything, he is credible enough as a boxer, he just can't express anything eloquently, at all.
Fair enough man, I really have no issue with Mayweather's resume now the Pacquiao fight is done.
Sooner Mayweather packs it in, sooner everybody can focus on the fights that could happen like Khan, Bradley, Brook, Thurman, Porter etc mixing it with each other more.
It's not quite the same, but it's also not fine, I can admit that.
Brook is to khan, what khan is to Mayweather... To some extent.
Still, the op is right, Brook has inserted himself into a debate without the same credentials and that's a fact.
All this khan nit picking is to cover up that brook has gotten to 29 yo after 30 odd fights and has just started to win some okay fights....
Even though khan has retard fits I can see his position.
You don't need the same credentials to fight Khan as you would to fight Mayweather. I would certainly question Khan's welterweight credentials.
I don't think Brook genuinely thinks he is in the frame for Mayweather, it's just another thing to rock the boat of the Khan camp and add another layer to building up a Khan vs Brook clash.
Calling all Brook haters, who you throwing Brook in with instead if this nice timeline of fights Hearn has thrown out for you ain't suitable?
Bradley - just fought, can't do a deal right now, hence why they are looking after the mandatory.
Thurman - scheduled against Collazo you absolute fools
Pacquiao & Marquez - both injured
Porter - Beat him, regardless of how TV friendly you think it was
Chaves/Alexander - mandatory discussed as above
Then your getting into the likes of Guerrero, Broner, Algieri but my guess is you don't fancy making a case for those guys :fing26:
Khan - waiting on a fight for Mayweather, may not get the call, not scheduled :thinking:
He has fought ONE of the above (Alexander) and beat him nicely, but he is meant to be some sort of demi-god at WELTERWEIGHT that Brook is not fit to step in a ring with.
Khan knows where the phone is, but Brook is gonna be bypassing this fool if Khan don't deal with it himself.
Then I'm sure you'll all have no problems rounding on Khan.:nonono:
He's been a pro for ten years ....
And he beat 3 world title challengers and 2 former world title holders before he won the belt himself. 3 World title holders if you include Porter.
Not every fighter should say for example be knocking on the door for a world title after they have been pro for 5 years, it ain't that black and white. All fighters have different timelines and make their way in the pro game in different ways
Who is Brook?
I take it now AliBomaye has gone quiet that the point has finally got home. All he's managed to do so far is racially abuse him and take the piss out of his accent.
Same question to you, what would you have done different with Brook up to this point in his career?
You can't slam a fighter for what he's done if you don't have an idea of the alternative routes/fights he could have chosen.